All you Mini lovers...

[SConcierge]

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[Guest]

Over reaction

I'll be the first to admit that mini had a mixed game. Yes he made a few mistakes but he also caught some miraculous high balls to save potential trys. I'm not going to crucify a future roosters legend and current captain over his performance yesterday. This kind of attitude is the reason why other clubs call roosters fans fair weathered friends rather than true fans.

Also did anyone see Haynes performance on Friday? He played a lot worse than mini yesterday

[stsae]

I can live with the possie switch mate but I'm still going to oppose rank criticism of his performances if he does plenty more good than bad as per last night.

IMO no one is immune to criticism mate, that's what the forums are for.

We still won the game and yes Mini caught some nice high balls but the FACT remains his hands again let him down in a simple pass to his bread basket and his inability to deal with the grubber isn't improving and his defence on the line is still ordinary. Those 3 errors led directly to tries. We were lucky to escape with the result after dominating all night. The momentum shift was noticeable.

A smart coach and team won't bomb to Mini, they will know to use the grubber more often than not, like Souffs did last week, hence all the line drop outs.

No ones questioning Minis guts or commitment to the team. It's purely his diminishing limited skills in probably the most demanding position on the field these days.

I said before I don't want to end up hating Mini, I worded that wrongly. I should have said I don't want to end up pitying Mini. IMO that would be far worse.

[kurtsherlock6]

I'll be the first to admit that mini had a mixed game. Yes he made a few mistakes but he also caught some miraculous high balls to save potential trys. I'm not going to crucify a future roosters legend and current captain over his performance yesterday. This kind of attitude is the reason why other clubs call roosters fans fair weathered friends rather than true fans.

Also did anyone see Haynes performance on Friday? He played a lot worse than mini yesterday

Exactly. Mini always gives 110%, Hayne doesnt even look like he wants to be out there half the time.

[kurtsherlock6]

IMO no one is immune to criticism mate, that's what the forums are for.

We still won the game and yes Mini caught some nice high balls but the FACT remains his hands again let him down in a simple pass to his bread basket and his inability to deal with the grubber isn't improving and his defence on the line is still ordinary. Those 3 errors led directly to tries. We were lucky to escape with the result after dominating all night. The momentum shift was noticeable.

A smart coach and team won't bomb to Mini, they will know to use the grubber more often than not, like Souffs did last week, hence all the line drop outs.

No ones questioning Minis guts or commitment to the team. It's purely his diminishing limited skills in probably the most demanding position on the field these days.

I said before I don't want to end up hating Mini, I worded that wrongly. I should have said I don't want to end up pitying Mini. IMO that would be far worse.

Thats funny, i dont remember him dropping one of those grubber kicks put souths put in, all he could do was defuse them each time, which he did. I also think blaming him for the warriors 3rd try is a pretty harsh call, but seeing as though he's being blamed for the other tries why not blame him for that as well.

I really think some of the critsisim of Minii is right over the top, & very selective, but thats just my opinion. Maybe i'm just another one of those "idiots" on here.

[Guest]

Mini is done..

It kills me to see a former champion reduced to embarrassing himself..

[stsae]

Thats funny, i dont remember him dropping one of those grubber kicks put souths put in, all he could do was defuse them each time, which he did. I also think blaming him for the warriors 3rd try is a pretty harsh call, but seeing as though he's being blamed for the other tries why not blame him for that as well.

I really think some of the critsisim of Minii is right over the top, & very selective, but thats just my opinion. Maybe i'm just another one of those "idiots" on here.

Mate the fact Mini was peppered with grubbers last week was enough to suggest I may be correct in what I said, good coaches will have taken note and will use that kick more often than the bomb, which he obviously has more success defusing. I didn't say he made the mistakes last week, but the fact remains he is far weaker with the rolling ball over the high ball.

Mini didn't number up at marker. Sure Baloney missed the tackle too but Mini was just as bad. He failed to get control of the rolling ball, he failed to even touch it. And his hands let him down again for the other try.

He was involved in The Worriers scoring their 3 tries. Those facts are there for all to see. It's not as though I've made them up.

I've been on these forums for over a decade mate. I'm not known for ranting about players unjustly. I know what the players have to do to play first grade and I respect them for the entertainment they provide. I also don't get personal like many do. I refuse to call players soft etc.

But when I see others being blamed for one players inept efforts I will point out what I believe is bullshit.

I don't hate Mini, re-read my post. I just am calling it as I see it.

[kurtsherlock6]

Mate the fact Mini was peppered with grubbers last week was enough to suggest I may be correct in what I said, good coaches will have taken note and will use that kick more often than the bomb, which he obviously has more success defusing. I didn't say he made the mistakes last week, but the fact remains he is far weaker with the rolling ball over the high ball.

Mini didn't number up at marker. Sure Baloney missed the tackle too but Mini was just as bad. He failed to get control of the rolling ball, he failed to even touch it. And his hands let him down again for the other try.

He was involved in The Worriers scoring their 3 tries. Those facts are there for all to see. It's not as though I've made them up.

I've been on these forums for over a decade mate. I'm not known for ranting about players unjustly. I know what the players have to do to play first grade and I respect them for the entertainment they provide. I also don't get personal like many do. I refuse to call players soft etc.

But when I see others being blamed for one players inept efforts I will point out what I believe is bullshit.

I don't hate Mini, re-read my post. I just am calling it as I see it.

Mate i usually respect your opinion as unlike many you dont get personal & can you always justify your opinion, even if i dont agree with it, as you said you just call it as YOU see it. I also never said you hated Mini.

I suppose the thing that pisses me off, & i'm not suggesting that you do this, is when peoples views get belittled & are subject to petty name calling just because they dare to have a difference of opinion.

Anyway, as i'm sure has been said many times before it would be pretty dull on here if everyone agreed on everything on here.

[Guest]

It's not going to happen so forget about it.

If anything we will more than likely re-sign him for one more season.

If that happens I propose a rally outside Easts Leagues.

zero chance of that happening

[Guest]

Agreed a great wingers try.

But wingers these days do similar every week, it's part of the position now, extreme atletecism.

The FB position has passed Mini by now. I started the season knowing he'd be our FB and accepting his limitations but his hand in all 3 Worriers tries last night is a real worry IMO.

Generally players don't get more skillful as they age. Mini was never overly skillful, he was a great athlete.

The FB position is such now we are at a massive disadvantage not using a skillful player there.

I love the bloke, I don't want to end up hating him.

It's time that kid got a go there. He will make errors, that's a given, but I believe we can all cop a kid making errors better than our most experienced player and captain making errors.

Against the smarter clubs I fear Mini is gonna get owned hard.

This!

Chook.

[ism22]

He has to go.

I know we have fun on here but it's beyond a joke.

Forget that he can't break a tackle.

Forget that kills our backline play.

His two stupid errors just about cost us the game tonight.

Honestly it's isn't funny anymore.

I thought his try was decent?

He took a good pass, slipped a few players and put 4 on the board for us (in a place where Maloney was able to convert... this try and conversion won us the game.)

THANK YOU! Mini's had a decent season thus far. Haters gonna hate I guess... fark you too haters! :P

[Guest]

I cannot get how he can catch the bombs (his complete skillset), but not catch a pass or bat or fall on a grubber.

Pretty sure he can catch a bat, he is the Count after all!

[Guest]

I thought his try was decent?

He took a good pass, slipped a few players and put 4 on the board for us (in a place where Maloney was able to convert... this try and conversion won us the game.)

THANK YOU! Mini's had a decent season thus far. Haters gonna hate I guess... fark you too haters! :P

Idiot.

[Andrew Walker]

Idiot.

Why arent you over at GOEASTS

IDIOT

[Danish]

I can't think of too many worse first choice fullbacks in the comp than mini.

Tier 1: Slater
Tier 2: Inglis, Stewart, Hayne, Barba, Bowen
Tier 3: Boyd, Locke
Tier 4: Zillman, Robinson
Tier 5: Gordon, Beale
Tier 6: Moltzen, Whare, Norman

You couldn't possibly slot Mini in any higher than Tier 5 in that lot.

If you are being honest, what would his list of pro's and con's look like? To me it is:

PRO'S:
* Rarely if ever drops a mid-field bomb
* Takes the right option when defending line breaks every time (always goes the ball carrier and forces them to pass if they want to score)

CON'S:
* Way too slow these days
* No ball playing ability whatsoever
* Despite the above, attempts to chime into the backline every set
* Hands like feet when it comes to catching offloads or short balls
* Pretty much never available in support after a linebreaks up the middle
* Incapable of defending any type of kick that isn't a midfield bomb (grubbers, cross field kicks, chips back towards the goal posts etc), largely due to lack of pace
* terrible kick returns. no longer able to break tackles like he used to

Personally I think Mini needs to be shifted to the wing and RTS given a solid go at fullback. All of minis remaining qualities are just as useful on the wing, and most of his deficiencies would be able to be hidden out wide as well. Whats more we'd have a fullback in RTS who would have defenders in 2 minds when returning the ball, while also taking him off the wing where he is clearly uncomfortable defending.