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Originally posted by Chook Norris View PostI don't think many doubt Pearce's ability or skillset given how often he features near the top of NRL stats for halves. His ability to apply consistent pressure or take the correct option at the right time however is what most can see he lacks.
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Originally posted by pearcesworstnightmare View PostSoward is rubbish right now, i cannot and will not defend him, Pearce is not rubbish but ordinary at present, yet all the usal crew will defend that some how.
Both those blokes could not lace a boot next to Reynolds at present.
However taking current form into account i would back Reynolds and Soward to make that clutch play if they played today to get a team home at the death
be honest Chook, answer the question, which one of the three would be less likely to make the play.
And to answer your question, Soward. Without the structure and coaching of Bennett, Soward has been shown to be the overrated twat we all told he was even when he was in his prime. You can't deny we told you that the only reason Soward was playing well was because of the structure and coaching he was getting at the time.
On current form Reynolds is playing better than Pearce no argument. But again he's playing well because of the structures and coaching he's getting from Maquire. Same with DCE. I've watched all the halves this year and to be honest, for the first 50-mins against the Broncos round 1 DCE was very ordinary. Same as Reynolds Monday night, he was ordinary for a lot of that game, but he looks better and they won due to the team he plays in.
You and tardburn won't give Pearce the same opportunity to play with good structures in well coached side before comparing him to halves that are. And that's unfair imo. You only have to look at Keating at the dogs to see an example of an ordinary half made to look much better than he is by the team he's surrounded by.
Pearce has had 3 crap coaches, the most overated 5/8 ever in the game as his partner for all but one of his years and a spine consisting of Jake Friend and Minichello. Hardly a fair comparison to Reynolds or DCE.
If by seasons end Pearce and the team are not performing at a similar level to Souffs and Manly I'll admit I was wrong.
Question is will you?
Chook.Last edited by Chook; 03-21-2013, 09:37 AM.
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Originally posted by Chester County View PostEveryone has a different view of 'supporting the club'.. Why should I support Pearce if I think he's bringing the team down? It's only my opinion and I'm allowed to support the team the way I feel, just as you do. I've been waiting over 6 years for him to show his potential and so far have seen next to nothing. How long should we all wait for him to win a game for the club? I can't recall a single game he's dominated like other halves. Reynolds is a far better player, sadly he plays for Souths...
But, what does it achieve by coming on here everyday (not necessarily you, but others) and bagging our players. It's not constructive criticism, just rubbish! There are a couple of players in our team at the moment who I don't think are quite good enough but they're still in our side so I'm going to support them and hope we go well.
Are you going to continually bag him for the next 4 years because its getting old!?!?!
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Originally posted by Rooster_6 View PostSays the bloke who claims he was never wrong about Soward, just that religion and SOO ruined his career.
You're dead set full of it.
Pearce has never and will never reach the Standards Soward set in 09 and 10
Your Hate for Soward is worse than my dislike for Pearce
You need a nathon Lyon coaching clinic, to reduce the spin in every post
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Originally posted by Rooster_Luke View PostAnd I don't have a problem with your opinion. You have your reasons for disliking Pearce and that's fine.
But, what does it achieve by coming on here everyday (not necessarily you, but others) and bagging our players. It's not constructive criticism, just rubbish! There are a couple of players in our team at the moment who I don't think are quite good enough but they're still in our side so I'm going to support them and hope we go well.
Are you going to continually bag him for the next 4 years because its getting old!?!?!
Easts to Win!
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Originally posted by pearcesworstnightmare View PostSimple Fact
Pearce has never and will never reach the Standards Soward set in 09 and 10
Your Hate for Soward is worse than my dislike for Pearce
You need a nathon Lyon coaching clinic, to reduce the spin in every post
You really are delusional. You're the one who quite clearly has an attachment to the bloke yet can't even admit he's an average player, trying to blame it on religion and SOO, lol. Bit rich for you to be throwing around the bias remarks.
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Originally posted by Chook View PostThat's exactly my point. You've moved on from comparing Pearce to Soward because Soward is shit. You've just jumped on the Reynolds bandwagon same as tardburn.
And to answer your question, Soward. Without the structure and coaching of Bennett, Soward has been shown to be the overrated twat we all told he was even when he was in his prime. You can't deny we told you that the only reason Soward was playing well was because of the structure and coaching he was getting at the time.
On current form Reynolds is playing better than Pearce no argument. But again he's playing well because of the structures and coaching he's getting from Maquire. Same with DCE. I've watched all the halves this year and to be honest, for the first 50-mins against the Broncos round 1 DCE was very ordinary. Same as Reynolds Monday night, he was ordinary for a lot of that game, but he looks better and they won due to the team he plays in.
You and tardburn won't give Pearce the same opportunity to play with good structures in well coached side before comparing him to halves that are. And that's unfair imo. You only have to look at Keating at the dogs to see an example of an ordinary half made to look much better than he is by the team he's surrounded by.
Pearce has had 3 crap coaches, the most overated 5/8 ever in the game as his partner for all but one of his years and a spine consisting of Jake Friend and Minichello. Hardly a fair comparison to Reynolds or DCE.
If by seasons end Pearce and the team are not performing at a similar level to Souffs and Manly I'll admit I was wrong.
Question is will you?
Chook.
Fark Soward, Fark the Merge, fark Reynolds, fark Origin, My concern is the Roosters.
With 7 years in first grade under his belt, A free ride into rep football and until recent times a protected species amongst Jornos the bloke has failed to improve in any area, in fact 2 of his strongest points used to be his kicking and defence are inept and not up to 1st grade standard.
His best year was when a superstar and scapegoat carried him through on his coat tails.
My last word on the Soward / Pearce debate is this.
Every time they have gone head to head Soward has owned him.
Soward has a premiership, a claytons one but a premiership nonetheless
Pearce has never and will never reach the heights and playing level that Soward did in both 09 and 10
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Originally posted by Rooster_6 View PostYou think I only believe Soward to be an average player because I hate him?
You really are delusional. You're the one who quite clearly has an attachment to the bloke yet can't even admit he's an average player, trying to blame it on religion and SOO, lol. Bit rich for you to be throwing around the bias remarks.
You are a deluded fool if you think Soward's 09 and 10 form was "average"
You are clearly struggling with reality, i would be upset too if i started a feel good thread only to have it backfire and show you the fool.
keep pissing into the fan though, it is easier than trying to spin on a flat wicket
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Originally posted by pearcesworstnightmare View PostI moved on from the Soward / Pearce debate because it was getting boring, only you Blokes defending Pearce mention the 2 in comparisons.
Fark Soward, Fark the Merge, fark Reynolds, fark Origin, My concern is the Roosters.
With 7 years in first grade under his belt, A free ride into rep football and until recent times a protected species amongst Jornos the bloke has failed to improve in any area, in fact 2 of his strongest points used to be his kicking and defence are inept and not up to 1st grade standard.
His best year was when a superstar and scapegoat carried him through on his coat tails.
My last word on the Soward / Pearce debate is this.
Every time they have gone head to head Soward has owned him.
Soward has a premiership, a claytons one but a premiership nonetheless
Pearce has never and will never reach the heights and playing level that Soward did in both 09 and 10
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