Gould on Pearce today

[Guest]

I can't see why they don't blood RTS now, keep mini in the team but put him on the wing. If they gave RTS five rounds at fullback, the kid would become our most potent attacking player, Souths have put their Captain Crocker on the bench lol, it shows you that Maguire's attitude is far more professional, he won't stomach mediocrity in his team.

I can understand why they aren't doing it probably down to the reason he might struggle running out a full game at fullback. I also think they are worried because he is still a kid and might burn out. I get the feeling they see him as a bit of a trump card they can play later in the year.

I don't agree with it but they would probably be the reasons.

What I don't understand why at the very least he can't attack in the middle of the field. From set starts and penalties just get involved, that footwork is wasted on the wing. RTS isn't a kid who has great speed or is a great finisher, he is a kid that can create something from nothing. You can't do that from the wing.

Look at the Souffs game the other night. Merrit was in the middle of the field more than on his wing and he looked very dangerous. We should do the same with RTS.

[Guest]

I'd prefer anyone to Pearce.

Even Moltzen, Walsh or Fien??????????

[chook 56]

Even Moltzen, Walsh or Fien??????????

Finch, even?

[Rooster_6]

That's my opinions on his ball playing not his ball running.

I've actually enjoyed your posts of late at least they're thought provoking even if I disagree so I hope this is just a misunderstanding and not your usual go after someone even when its quite clear you were wrong.

farking bullshit 6

you know exactly what we were talking about

just like you'd come on here and tell us all how Carney would have to stay at fullback because Braith had to be 5/8, only to then deny it

you're a very sad case

Yup as I suspected just your usual dire self. Its quitr clear I was talking about his ball playing not his ball running. Hes a good support player but doesnt play direct enough or into/through the line enough to ever be any more

[Chester County]

The way I look at it, supporting a club means that you support all the players and everyone else involved.

You're not going to like everyone or necessarily think they are good enough but you should still support them.

From what I've seen, all you do is criticise Pearce. We all criticise players but you don't even recognise when he plays a good game.

Pretty pathetic IMO

Everyone has a different view of 'supporting the club'.. Why should I support Pearce if I think he's bringing the team down? It's only my opinion and I'm allowed to support the team the way I feel, just as you do. I've been waiting over 6 years for him to show his potential and so far have seen next to nothing. How long should we all wait for him to win a game for the club? I can't recall a single game he's dominated like other halves. Reynolds is a far better player, sadly he plays for Souths...

[Guest]

Jamie Soward is absolutely an average first grade rugby league player that had the fortune of playing behind a strong forward pack that allowed himself and Ben Hornby to produce performances above their ability. We are now finding out just how average Jamie Soward is and Ben Hornby himself last season when the aggression has been taken out of the Saints forward pack. Adam Reynolds also has the fortune of playing behind arguably the strongest forward pack in the league. The Canterbury Bulldogs have seen their average halves and hooker look like the Canberra pairing of Daley and Stuart thanks to their monstrous forward pack as well. When has Mitchell Pearce played behind a strong forward pack at our club? Well, in 2008 when we lead the premiership half way through the season and finished 4th for one and our forward pack in 2010 was effective enough although not exactly great. Our forward pack has been relatively weak for approximately 7 or 8 years now barring the 2008 season. I can tell you that Mitchell Pearce would have played a hell of a lot better in our 2003 and 2004 teams than Brett Finch did.

The similarity that the Canterbury halves, Jamie Soward and Adam Reynolds have is that they all played behind dominating forward packs but were also directed by wonderful coaches that provided simple yet effective structures. The St George go to play through out the Wayne Bennett era was the sweeping back line movement that finished in a Darius Boyd assist to Brett Morris. The key to their attack was their fullback and a speedy winger who was strong enough to dominate most of his opposite wingers and not their halves. South Sydney and Canterbury both have their main play of getting their ball to thei fullback to either dummy and go himself - or in Greg Inglis' case just run straight over his attempted tackler - or provide service to set up his winger. All three teams do not have "dynamic" halves or what ever buzz word you wish to use to talk down Mitchell Pearce.

Basically, the fullback in the modern era of dominating forwards has become arguably the most important position on the field and it is no surprise that most teams that have success, ie: Melbourne (Slater) Canterbury (Barba) South Sydney (Inglis) North Queensland (Bowen) Manly (Stewart) St George in the Bennett era (Boyd) have wonderful fullbacks. Parramatta of 2009 rode the "Hayne train" to a grand final and only two teams currently - North Queensland and Melbourne - can legitimately claim to have superstar in the halves - however, Manly have very strong halves - and in the case of Melbourne a superstar hooker just for good measure. I would also argue that the real key to Parramatta's fairy tale run was the strong performances of Fui Fui Moi Moi which allowed Parramatta to gain the advantage in the middle but Jarred Hayne was absolutely freakish as well.

In the case of our Roosters of 2010 and the Wests Tigers of the same time frame both of our number 6's like to use the same strategy in drifting across field to either draw a defender out of position for the outside men or accelerate through the gap and that is very similar to the Canterbury, South Sydney and St George plays only it is the number 6 and not the fullback executing them.

I do not think that Mitchell Pearce is a superstar now or ever will be but I think the criticism of his recent performances has been unfair and also that it seems apparent some of these football fans have not caught up with the modern game and are still stuck in the past philosophy of the sport and to use Andrew Johns as the measuring stick is laughable since the man is widely regarded as the greatest player our sport has see. You only have to look at the amount of people that can not comprehend that the lock forward position has changed to effectively a third front row forward to see that the game has surpassed some of the older fans.

Sorry for the long post and I will ensure that I keep future posts to a shorter length. Thank you.

[Guest]

Yup as I suspected just your usual dire self. Its quitr clear I was talking about his ball playing not his ball running. Hes a good support player but doesnt play direct enough or into/through the line enough to ever be any more

You have more spin than an Indian Cricketer.

Continue On it is quite amusing

[Guest]

Jamie

I stopped reading at this point.

[Guest]

Jamie Soward is absolutely an average first grade rugby league player that had the fortune of playing behind a strong forward pack that allowed himself and Ben Hornby to produce performances above their ability. We are now finding out just how average Jamie Soward is and Ben Hornby himself last season when the aggression has been taken out of the Saints forward pack. Adam Reynolds also has the fortune of playing behind arguably the strongest forward pack in the league. The Canterbury Bulldogs have seen their average halves and hooker look like the Canberra pairing of Daley and Stuart thanks to their monstrous forward pack as well. When has Mitchell Pearce played behind a strong forward pack at our club? Well, in 2008 when we lead the premiership half way through the season and finished 4th for one and our forward pack in 2010 was effective enough although not exactly great. Our forward pack has been relatively weak for approximately 7 or 8 years now barring the 2008 season. I can tell you that Mitchell Pearce would have played a hell of a lot better in our 2003 and 2004 teams than Brett Finch did.

The similarity that the Canterbury halves, Jamie Soward and Adam Reynolds have is that they all played behind dominating forward packs but were also directed by wonderful coaches that provided simple yet effective structures. The St George go to play through out the Wayne Bennett era was the sweeping back line movement that finished in a Darius Boyd assist to Brett Morris. The key to their attack was their fullback and a speedy winger who was strong enough to dominate most of his opposite wingers and not their halves. South Sydney and Canterbury both have their main play of getting their ball to thei fullback to either dummy and go himself - or in Greg Inglis' case just run straight over his attempted tackler - or provide service to set up his winger. All three teams do not have "dynamic" halves or what ever buzz word you wish to use to talk down Mitchell Pearce.

Basically, the fullback in the modern era of dominating forwards has become arguably the most important position on the field and it is no surprise that most teams that have success, ie: Melbourne (Slater) Canterbury (Barba) South Sydney (Inglis) North Queensland (Bowen) Manly (Stewart) St George in the Bennett era (Boyd) have wonderful fullbacks. Parramatta of 2009 rode the "Hayne train" to a grand final and only two teams currently - North Queensland and Melbourne - can legitimately claim to have superstar in the halves - however, Manly have very strong halves - and in the case of Melbourne a superstar hooker just for good measure. I would also argue that the real key to Parramatta's fairy tale run was the strong performances of Fui Fui Moi Moi which allowed Parramatta to gain the advantage in the middle but Jarred Hayne was absolutely freakish as well.

In the case of our Roosters of 2010 and the Wests Tigers of the same time frame both of our number 6's like to use the same strategy in drifting across field to either draw a defender out of position for the outside men or accelerate through the gap and that is very similar to the Canterbury, South Sydney and St George plays only it is the number 6 and not the fullback executing them.

I do not think that Mitchell Pearce is a superstar now or ever will be but I think the criticism of his recent performances has been unfair and also that it seems apparent some of these football fans have not caught up with the modern game and are still stuck in the past philosophy of the sport and to use Andrew Johns as the measuring stick is laughable since the man is widely regarded as the greatest player our sport has see. You only have to look at the amount of people that can not comprehend that the lock forward position has changed to effectively a third front row forward to see that the game has surpassed some of the older fans.

Sorry for the long post and I will ensure that I keep future posts to a shorter length. Thank you.

You forgot to add Mini to the list of successful clubs with wonderful fullbacks...

[Guest]

Pearce's 'worst nightmare' is hardly a keyboard hero who peddles arguments with no rugby league evaluation being significantly presented.

Ray goat - save yourself typing and just copy and paste your posts. Same shit, different day.

Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

[Guest]

You forgot to add Mini to the list of successful clubs with wonderful fullbacks...

I did not mention Tim Moltzen either. As I explained both teams don't utilize their fullback hence why ourselves and Wests are woeful.

[Guest]

I stopped reading at this point.

Of course you would say that as you can not possibly argue against reason because your vendetta is blinded by hatred for whatever reason and as I stated the game has surpassed your prehistoric interpretation of rugby league. You belittle others for not putting forth an argument but when one is present you have no response other than to be a smart aleck. It's better for you not to respond or be a reasonable man and respond in a mature manner.

[Geohood]

People - get over your hate for Pearce and try to enjoy the footy. We've only just started the season and have much more development to go through as a team. Geez.

[Guest]

I'd prefer to have Reynolds than Pearce.

Wouldn't you?

Thanks Bansai, I needed a really good laugh today.

Ray Stehr... I'd recommend you never be in the same room as another member by the name of Alex. The conversation between the two of you would be so sad, you'd both probably drive each other to end your sorry selves.

[stsae]

People - get over your hate for Pearce and try to enjoy the footy. We've only just started the season and have much more development to go through as a team. Geez.

Geo has spoken everyone.

I suggest a cup of tea and a timtam.

Everyone then breathe and do weewee.

Then shove your thumbs up your arses.



Now unleash cos I reckon we need to debate this issue some more. I believe some of you are holding back.

Have a go you soft Coqqs.


As Geo said, Geez.