Player Statistic Index (Halfbacks)

[Guest]

I blame the rise in fantasy footy for them becoming so highly regarded these days (fantasy footy is also the reason why Gallen is considered some super human player, despite being actually quite average)

I totally agree with this comment. I also think a lot of armchair experts have their views shaped by Fantasy Footy in regards to a range of topics including an overstated importance of the role of the fullback.

[Rocky Rhodes]

Lol @ Rooster_6.

I reckon he would struggle to analyze a game of tic tac toe, let alone rugby league.

[Guest]

Rooster 6 is the new Warnie of rooster forums

[Rooster_6]

so you use the stats to support your Pearce assertion, but then when the stats fail to back up another of your assertions, that's ok because "I think everyone knows he's the far superior player"

you are freakin hilarious 6

Like I said the statistics are a representation of performance over the last year and a bit. They are not a representation of ability.

I hope you can understand that difference, but it's doubtful.

[Rooster_6]

I'd wager the same statistical analysis of 2005 to 2006 would have seen one Brett Finch ranked in the top 5 halfbacks as well.

Raking up statistics can only get you so far. I blame the rise in fantasy footy for them becoming so highly regarded these days (fantasy footy is also the reason why Gallen is considered some super human player, despite being actually quite average)

lol Paul Gallen average, that'll do me.

Best forward in the game by some length.

[Rooster_6]

Sir, I have been a chook supporter and member for over 30 years and my comment wasn't a comment against the club rather a comment against Mitchell Pearce's apparent lack of skill at number 7 and in my opinion DCE is a far better halfback than Pearce.
He is a responsible young father and a well spoken man who gives thought into his play on field something Mitchell Pearce doesn't do. I seriously don't understand the Manly membership comment as I never commented on them, but the comment was something I would have expected from a South Sydney supporter.

Cherry-Evans is all class, I'm not the first to say it and I doubt I'll be the last but there's a lot about him that reminds me of Andrew Johns. Shame he's a Queenslander.

[Danish]

lol Paul Gallen average, that'll do me.

Best forward in the game by some length.

No he is not. He is a ball hog, and an extremely fit one. He makes 20+ hit ups every game, usually resulting in between 130-180m. Thats basically all he brings to the table. He has no hole running ability, no attacking offload, no ability to pass at the line, and no quick play the ball.

He has made a career based around 4th tackle "settlers" making a cheap 8-10m off the back off someone else's hard work. He has done this his entire career, but only in the last 4 years or so since everyone started playing fantasy silly buggers has he been suddenly elevated to legend status.

He really is the chuck norris of league (laughable B lister, but people made enough jokes about how hard he is that suddenly he became cool).

I would take Scott, Tamou, Grant, Mautolino, or Shillo above him at prop and I would take Stewart, SBW, Lewis, and hell probably a half dozen others over him in the back row.

[Guest]

Like I said the statistics are a representation of performance over the last year and a bit. They are not a representation of ability.

I hope you can understand that difference, but it's doubtful.

but you used the same stats to back up your assertion re Pearce

then when they don't support your case, they're "a representation of performance, not ability"

what I do understand 6, is that it's a pointless exercise expecting any sense from you, and I'll not be wasting my time with your gibberish any longer

[Rooster_6]

No he is not. He is a ball hog, and an extremely fit one. He makes 20+ hit ups every game, usually resulting in between 130-180m. Thats basically all he brings to the table. He has no hole running ability, no attacking offload, no ability to pass at the line, and no quick play the ball.

He has made a career based around 4th tackle "settlers" making a cheap 8-10m off the back off someone else's hard work. He has done this his entire career, but only in the last 4 years or so since everyone started playing fantasy silly buggers has he been suddenly elevated to legend status.

He really is the chuck norris of league (laughable B lister, but people made enough jokes about how hard he is that suddenly he became cool).

I would take Scott, Tamou, Grant, Mautolino, or Shillo above him at prop and I would take Stewart, SBW, Lewis, and hell probably a half dozen others over him in the back row.

He's a middle third player, he's not supposed to make line breaks or be a creative ball playing option. His only job is to hit the ball up as many times as possible. He's actually quite decent at getting an offload away for what it's worth but even if he couldn't it wouldn't lessen my opinion of him.

The bloke consistently makes more metres than any other forward and he's proven this at the highest level of the game, SOO.

I think you have a big misunderstanding and lack of appreciation for the role of a middle third forward.

I don't expect you to watch a Sharks season but watch SOO back last year and tell me that NSW would have been half as good without him.

[Rooster_6]

but you used the same stats to back up your assertion re Pearce

then when they don't support your case, they're "a representation of performance, not ability"

what I do understand 6, is that it's a pointless exercise expecting any sense from you, and I'll not be wasting my time with your gibberish any longer

Where did I say this was a reflection of Pearce's ability?

You can keep on making up lies but it doesn't make them true just because you keep on saying them over and over...

[Guest]

Where did I say this was a reflection of Pearce's ability?

You can keep on making up lies but it doesn't make them true just because you keep on saying them over and over...

6 trying to bowl a googly

[Rooster_6]

6 trying to bowl a googly

Or just you and ttw too thick to realise what PSI is a reflection of?

[Danish]

He's a middle third player, he's not supposed to make line breaks or be a creative ball playing option. His only job is to hit the ball up as many times as possible. He's actually quite decent at getting an offload away for what it's worth but even if he couldn't it wouldn't lessen my opinion of him.

The bloke consistently makes more metres than any other forward and he's proven this at the highest level of the game, SOO.

I think you have a big misunderstanding and lack of appreciation for the role of a middle third forward.

I don't expect you to watch a Sharks season but watch SOO back last year and tell me that NSW would have been half as good without him.

I think you have zero idea what a lock forward's role is in a side. Here's a hint though... have a look at the job Bellamy, Hasler, and Bennett ask of their lock forwards for your answer.

Gallen is a prop who is too shit to play prop. He does NOT play in the "middle third" (you really need to stop using this phrase btw), he runs on the edges all bloody game.

Making metres means **** all if those metres are just a cheap 10m 8-9 times per match following up a half break and quick play the ball with a pointless settling hit up straight into the retreating defence. Cronulla get very little chance at laying on backline movements and exploiting any ascendency they earn with the ball because Gallen is forever calling for the ball back on the inside when Carney is trying to drift across field (watch how many 4th and 5th tackles he butchered vs Souths).

He is an average player with supreme fitness, so he can hit the ball up a lot (averages about a carry every set). this gives him impressive metres gained stats, but very little else.

[Guest]

I think you have zero idea what a lock forward's role is in a side. Here's a hint though... have a look at the job Bellamy, Hasler, and Bennett ask of their lock forwards for your answer.

Gallen is a prop who is too shit to play prop. He does NOT play in the "middle third" (you really need to stop using this phrase btw), he runs on the edges all bloody game.

Making metres means **** all if those metres are just a cheap 10m 8-9 times per match following up a half break and quick play the ball with a pointless settling hit up straight into the retreating defence. Cronulla get very little chance at laying on backline movements and exploiting any ascendency they earn with the ball because Gallen is forever calling for the ball back on the inside when Carney is trying to drift across field (watch how many 4th and 5th tackles he butchered vs Souths).

He is an average player with supreme fitness, so he can hit the ball up a lot (averages about a carry every set). this gives him impressive metres gained stats, but very little else.

I hear he has a heart like Phar Lap

[Guest]

i hear he has a heart like phar lap

lol....