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  • #46
    Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
    Picking Anasta at 5/8 in the hope that Maubs will succeed in a position he hasn't had much experience in and Carney will succeed in a position he has never played before is too great of a risk.
    so you think anasta has more chance at success at lock than maubs? Maubs has played a few games of first grade lock and was a standout in all of those games. Braith is not suited to modern day lock - simple as that. Therefore 5/8 or out are his only positions so it looks like 5/8 considering he will be in RWB next year. So where does carney go? I think his speed, line breaking ability and instinctual play would make him a decent fullback and with the increased importance of a creative and game breaking fullback he might be our best bet with mini on the wing. I cant see any other option apart from get rid of braith, carney to 5/8 and use braith's money on another outside back for some strike power or on a replacement for fitzy - experienced workhorse

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    • #47
      Originally posted by roz View Post
      so you think anasta has more chance at success at lock than maubs? Maubs has played a few games of first grade lock and was a standout in all of those games. Braith is not suited to modern day lock - simple as that. Therefore 5/8 or out are his only positions so it looks like 5/8 considering he will be in RWB next year. So where does carney go? I think his speed, line breaking ability and instinctual play would make him a decent fullback and with the increased importance of a creative and game breaking fullback he might be our best bet with mini on the wing. I cant see any other option apart from get rid of braith, carney to 5/8 and use braith's money on another outside back for some strike power or on a replacement for fitzy - experienced workhorse
      Roz,no way in the world Carney should move from 5/8th to accomodate Anasta,Carney is a much better 5/8th than Anasta will ever be..
      Unfortunately Anasta has to be shipped to another club as their is nowhere to slot him into our side!!

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      • #48
        Originally posted by lydon View Post
        Roz,no way in the world Carney should move from 5/8th to accomodate Anasta,Carney is a much better 5/8th than Anasta will ever be..
        Unfortunately Anasta has to be shipped to another club as their is nowhere to slot him into our side!!
        yea no i completley agree and have said since carney was signed that braith should be shafted but the reality is he wont be for 2010 so im just trying to accomodate the inevitable but totally agree. As I suggested his money could be far better spent on a replacement for fitzy or on a strike outside back

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        • #49
          Originally posted by roz View Post
          yea no i completley agree and have said since carney was signed that braith should be shafted but the reality is he wont be for 2010 so im just trying to accomodate the inevitable but totally agree. As I suggested his money could be far better spent on a replacement for fitzy or on a strike outside back
          Yeh you`re right,he will definetly be with us next year so a position must be found for him..
          I think lock is the most logical choice,moreso than 5/8th!!!
          Id rather weaken the lock position than the 5/8th position,we need Carney and Pearce to work up a combo and get a good understanding for eachothers game..
          Hopefully over the next few years they will become the most lethal halves pairing in the comp,they sure have the potential..
          In saying that,im not sure if we have a strong enough lock at the moment to keep Anasta away from the position.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
            Picking Anasta at 5/8 in the hope that Maubs will succeed in a position he hasn't had much experience in and Carney will succeed in a position he has never played before is too great of a risk.
            Maubs has been a lock pretty much his entire life.
            ...

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            • #51
              I think a lot of the team selections I believe depend on Minichiello. If he is firing and has a massive pre-season, he will retain the fullback role which ultimately shifts Carney to five-eighth and Anasta to lock. But if he is not right and doesn't aim up, he'll be shafted to the wing and Carney will play fullback. At the moment I'd be going with:

              1. Todd Carney (GK)
              2. Sam Perrett
              3. Tom Symonds
              4. Phil Graham
              5. Anthony Minichiello
              6. Braith Anasta (c)
              7. Mitchell Pearce
              8. Frank Paul-Nuusuala
              9. Jake Friend
              10. Martin Kennedy
              11. Willie Mason
              12. Nate Myles
              13. Mitchell Aubusson

              14. Lopini Paea
              15. Anthony Cherrington
              16. Jared Wearea-Hargreaves
              17. Ben Jones

              Looks like a team capable of marching into the top 8, and with luck can make the top 4. With the backs, I've gone for Carney at fullback because he needs to fit somewhere and this is the best option at the moment for him. I'd have a centre pairing of Symonds and Graham just because they are complete opposites which can benefit the team. Graham has speed and agility and Symonds is a good hole runner who can exploit any gaps out wide. Minichiello and Perrett on the wings is where they need to be because they are safe and reliable and get the job done. Williamson and Moeakiola should start in NYC and Linnett and Naughton start in NSW Cup and work their way up. Anasta needs to be in five-eighth because he was one of our best this year and deserves first shot at his position. Pearce is an obvious one. The forward pack is a solid mix with both workers and impact players. Aubusson at lock I think should be the go because he is great everytime he plays there. Mason and Myles pretty much pick themselves and the real bolter is Martin Kennedy. He can carry a lot of the early workload which allows Paea to come off the bench in which he plays best. The bench is full of impact and that's what a bench is there for. All round good team who can cause the competition headaches.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by roz View Post
                so you think anasta has more chance at success at lock than maubs? Maubs has played a few games of first grade lock and was a standout in all of those games. Braith is not suited to modern day lock - simple as that. Therefore 5/8 or out are his only positions so it looks like 5/8 considering he will be in RWB next year. So where does carney go? I think his speed, line breaking ability and instinctual play would make him a decent fullback and with the increased importance of a creative and game breaking fullback he might be our best bet with mini on the wing. I cant see any other option apart from get rid of braith, carney to 5/8 and use braith's money on another outside back for some strike power or on a replacement for fitzy - experienced workhorse
                I agree Maubs is the better choice for lock and trust me you wont find a bigger fan than me, I've been singing his praises ever since that win against Parra during the origin period of 08. His defense work around the ruck was first class. But you can get away with an avergae lock, you can't get away with an average fullback, I understand that Carney can still do what he does best in attack from fullback but we've got no clue on his defensive positioning or reading of the game... would be a massive gamble.

                If Anasta is going to be lock he needs the off-season to prepare that's all I'm saying, pinning our hopes on Carney succeeding at fullback is a massive risk... if it doesn't work we'll already be a month or two behind the rest of the teams only a few rounds into the season.

                Buying Carney whilst we had Anasta was stupid in the first place, I said this from the start... now we've got to weaken other positions just so we can fit in our captain. The club shuold've just bitten the bullet and either not signed Carney or just released Anasta.

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                • #53
                  Carney will start at fullback.
                  Last edited by Horry; 10-05-2009, 11:41 PM.

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                  • #54
                    Is that a statement of fact?

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                    • #55
                      See thats what i do not like, why put carney at fullback, he is a 5/8 !!!!!

                      Delecto Oriens est odio Meridianus
                      To love Easts is to hate Souffs

                      Originally posted by Bill Shankley, Liverpool FC
                      At a football club, there’s a holy trinity – the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don’t come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques.
                      Originally posted by Andy Raymond Commentating Souffs V Manly 18/04/09
                      The fireworks at the Easter show are making more noise than the crowd tonight

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                      • #56
                        Just from what I have heard. Smith is keen to start him there ala Gidley style. Anasta to stay at 5/8. Mini on the wing. From a mate who spoke to BS at a function a few days ago. Don't shoot the messenger

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                        • #57
                          Nah not shooting you down Horry, it is just frustrating that carney will be used at Fullback.

                          Has he every played there????

                          Delecto Oriens est odio Meridianus
                          To love Easts is to hate Souffs

                          Originally posted by Bill Shankley, Liverpool FC
                          At a football club, there’s a holy trinity – the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don’t come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques.
                          Originally posted by Andy Raymond Commentating Souffs V Manly 18/04/09
                          The fireworks at the Easter show are making more noise than the crowd tonight

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                          • #58
                            Never in First Grade.... can't see it lasting long to be honest.

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                            • #59
                              I completley agree with you guys in that its a massive punt but i think in attack it will most definatley suit him and i think he has the makings of a really decent fullback. Time will tell tbh

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                              • #60
                                I think it will either be:

                                Fullback - Carney
                                Centre - Minichiello
                                Five-eighth - Anasta
                                Halfback - Pearce
                                Lock - Aubusson

                                OR

                                Fullback - Minichiello
                                Centre - Aubusson
                                Five-eighth - Carney
                                Halfback - Pearce
                                Lock - Anasta

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