2010 Thread

[TheLoneRooster]

*Seriously, how do you expect the parents of any young footballer to allow or encourage their son to play with the Roosters, given all the recent dramas?? I know i wouldn't!
* And if you were the CEO of a corporate company why on Earth would you pledge to sponsor our Club?

Brian, Noycey and the Directors are in control of the wayward bus. Lets hope they steer us through safely so we don't die a certain death.

Very good points Gman and points I hope those steering the bus are fully aware.

[theGman]

2010 structure

Five weeks on we 're still waiting for the announcement.

From enquiries i've made i believe......

Two new Assistant Coaches = Rohan Smith & Trent Robinson.

Three new High Performance Staff = Cherry Mescia(Head), the two others are from Rugby backgrounds. One from the Qld Reds & the other from the NSW Waratahs. These trio have experience with hi-tech equipment used by successful teams i.e Hayden Knowles @ Parramatta.

[Guest]

Five weeks on we 're still waiting for the announcement.

From enquiries i've made i believe......

Two new Assistant Coaches = Rohan Smith & Trent Robinson.

Three new High Performance Staff = Cherry Mescia(Head), the two others are from Rugby backgrounds. One from the Qld Reds & the other from the NSW Waratahs. These trio have experience with hi-tech equipment used by successful teams i.e Hayden Knowles @ Parramatta.

Our new High Performance Staff come from unsuccessful teams...great

[Guest]

Five weeks on we 're still waiting for the announcement.

From enquiries i've made i believe......

Two new Assistant Coaches = Rohan Smith & Trent Robinson.

Three new High Performance Staff = Cherry Mescia(Head), the two others are from Rugby backgrounds. One from the Qld Reds & the other from the NSW Waratahs. These trio have experience with hi-tech equipment used by successful teams i.e Hayden Knowles @ Parramatta.

Rohan Smith...?

[Guest]

Rohan Smith...?

Nvm found out Brian Smith son lol.

[theGman]

Recent Buderus article in theheraldsun about Brian Smith

As much as i hate to say it....i hope Freddy and the coaching staff were the main reason we didn't get the most out of our Guy's this year.
If not, we could have another bad year next year.
Hopefully BSmith will be a lot tougher on the under acheivers and with the proper guideance we can see our young guns slowly improve through out 2010.

KNIGHTS legend Danny Buderus has revealed the breakdown in his relationship with former coach Brian Smith after the controversial player clean-out in 2007 made him feel unwanted, and convinced him to leave the Knights with a year left on his contract. Buderus, who was disillusioned and despondent during what he described as the toughest year of his career, provides explosive details about those issues in his autobiography, Talent Is Not Enough, to be published early next month by Random House Australia.
Buderus, now 31, said he considered leaving the Knights at the end of 2007 to play out his career in England with Wigan because of Smith's "personal attack" on him at the peak of the club's contractual wrangle with Kirk Reynoldson.
Exasperated by the lack of communication from Smith and Knights management about the treatment of his friend Reynoldson and the "dismantling" of the roster, Buderus writes that he was talked out of leaving by former teammates Stephen Crowe and Paul Harragon.
Buderus stayed and played another year in 2008 until he ruptured his biceps against the Cowboys with two games left in the season, then left to join Leeds at the start of this year.
He explains he had already discussed with his manager, Darryl Mather, the idea of finishing his career in England, but the turmoil of 2007 "helped make up my mind".
The 2004 Dally M Medallist says he regretted his decision to publicly air his grievances he told a Sydney newspaper the sweeping changes Smith made were "too much too soon" but stood by the sentiments he expressed in that article published in August 2007.
"We had our say in a good heart-to-heart phone conversation a few days later, something I wish we'd had before anything came out in the media, but I have to be honest and say our relationship was purely 'business only' after that," Buderus writes.
In the same chapter, he says he and Smith "didn't talk much; I didn't find him nearly as approachable as [predecessor] Michael Hagan."I know Brian would not have got any pleasure out of telling a player he had to move on and was not required; it was a tough job for him and the club had given him a brief."
Buderus was incensed when Smith spoke to the media the day before Manly crushed the Knights 50-16 at Gosford and "hit back with what I felt was a very personal attack on me and my right to have my view".
"I think Danny could have done it in a different way but like I said, if you want to find someone who's not at the top of their game and is going to make an error of judgement, then you go to someone who is suffering from severe disappointment," Smith told reporters at the time.
"Danny's a real proud man. He wanted to have an enormous effect and he has. He's just not seeing and feeling that as the new captain of the Knights after Joey [Andrew Johns] left.
"He wanted to be an effective and winning captain of the Origin series and it didn't turn out that way. His position as No.9 in the Australian jersey is probably under threat.
"For a proud guy who's done so much service for Australian footy, and particularly the Knights, when it's not going well you're likely to find a bloke who is going to say the wrong thing. I wish he hadn't said it. I'm sure he does, too, but them's the breaks."
Buderus writes: "Some of those comments got my back up; I thought what he said was condescending and belittling.
"And plenty of people obviously agreed; my phone rang hot from people fuming at what had been said, including players from other clubs he had dismantled, who wanted to lend me support.
"To suggest I was too out of touch to know what morale was like, when I had been at the club for 13 years and spoke to the players more than the coach, CEO or the board did; to suggest I had made wild statements because I was the losing Origin captain and being under pressure for my Test spot, or that I was frustrated by not being a winning captain at Newcastle after succeeding Joey what did that have to do with what I said?
"I was the one fielding all the comments from players about how they felt because no one in the club seemed to care; that was the whole issue of my concerns.
"I went to our operations manager, Steve Crowe, and told him I'd had enough; that I didn't want to be at the club anymore because, like a lot of other players, I no longer felt wanted.
"I asked him about getting out of my contract at the end of the season even though I had a year, and an option for a further year, to go.
"I went to Paul Harragon, who was on the board, and asked the same thing. I wanted to go overseas and play because I couldn't bring myself to play against the Knights.
"What had happened, especially with Kirk Reynoldson, showed that NRL football had become a hard-nosed business and I didn't want to be part of that anymore; I'd had a gutful."
When contacted by The Herald yesterday, Smith said he had not read the book and did not want to comment.
Buderus is due back in Australia this week to attend former NSW and Test teammate Steve Menzies' wedding, then he has planned a holiday before embarking on a publicity tour to promote his book. The Herald understands the Newcastle launch will be held at EnergyAustralia Stadium on November 5.
Buderus, who expresses an interest in returning to the Knights in a coaching or mentoring role after he retires, stands by his feelings of two years ago. But he says Smith, who was replaced by assistant Rick Stone with four games left in the 2009 regular season, would leave a "legacy" at the club.
"He has stripped the system right back to the core in a technical sense and introduced a new structure, then reintroduced some of the principles that the foundation of the club was built on," he writes.
"As tough as he was with how he approached things, he has improved a lot of players. The club would be smart to continue the principles he introduced, and build on them."

[Guest]

What would you guys think of a team like this:

1. Anthony Minichiello
2. Sam Perrett
3. Mitch Aubusson
4. Ryan Williamson
5. Phil Graham
6. Todd Carney
7. Mitchell Pearce
8. Frank Paul-Nuusuala
9. Jake Friend
10. Jason Ryles
11. Willie Mason
12. Nate Myles
13. Braith Anasta (c)

14. Lopini Paea
15. Anthony Cherrington
16. Jared Wearea-Hargreaves
17. James Aubusson

That seems like a pretty solid team all round. Having Phil Graham on the wing would allow for Ryan Williamson to come into the centres and I think that's probably our best combination. Ben Jones has not been listed because IMO if he doesn't play hooker we shouldn't maybe have him on the bench. If Jake Friend ever gets injured and we don't have a specialist hooker on the bench, we will be stuffed. Also we need Todd Carney and Mitchell Pearce to spend every minute on the field and can't afford for Jones to come in and play in the halves because we need cohesion there to be successful. So from the previous teams I've listed on the forums, Fine Moeakiola and Ben Jones back to NYC, Shaun Kenny-Dowall to start the year at Newtown as well as Tom Symonds as he recovers from his shoulder operation. As you can see, if we have bought Jason Ryles, our pack will be a pretty damn good one if you ask me. A lot of size, impact and aggression coming off the bench. That's definitely a top 8 team IMO.

[Guest]

Nice team. Problem is that we look like a top 8 team on paper... But can we acctully perform like one..

[elo]

After watching France this morning....that Kane Bentley kid is a gun of a hooker, surely we could offer him peanuts and pick him up.

[Guest]

After watching France this morning....that Kane Bentley kid is a gun of a hooker, surely we could offer him peanuts and pick him up.

Bentley has just signed another one year contract with Les Catalans` for a little bit more than peanuts...

[elo]

Bentley has just signed another one year contract with Les Catalans` for a little bit more than peanuts...

Well why do they hardly use him? He only has 10 appearances in 09....he is Nathan Friendish with speed.

[Guest]

What would you guys think of a team like this:

1. Anthony Minichiello
2. Sam Perrett
3. Mitch Aubusson
4. Ryan Williamson
5. Phil Graham
6. Todd Carney
7. Mitchell Pearce
8. Frank Paul-Nuusuala
9. Jake Friend
10. Jason Ryles
11. Willie Mason
12. Nate Myles
13. Braith Anasta (c)

14. Lopini Paea
15. Anthony Cherrington
16. Jared Wearea-Hargreaves
17. James Aubusson

That seems like a pretty solid team all round. Having Phil Graham on the wing would allow for Ryan Williamson to come into the centres and I think that's probably our best combination. Ben Jones has not been listed because IMO if he doesn't play hooker we shouldn't maybe have him on the bench. If Jake Friend ever gets injured and we don't have a specialist hooker on the bench, we will be stuffed. Also we need Todd Carney and Mitchell Pearce to spend every minute on the field and can't afford for Jones to come in and play in the halves because we need cohesion there to be successful. So from the previous teams I've listed on the forums, Fine Moeakiola and Ben Jones back to NYC, Shaun Kenny-Dowall to start the year at Newtown as well as Tom Symonds as he recovers from his shoulder operation. As you can see, if we have bought Jason Ryles, our pack will be a pretty damn good one if you ask me. A lot of size, impact and aggression coming off the bench. That's definitely a top 8 team IMO.

I quite like it footy. What this side lacks however is that imo, mase and myles in the backrow is overkill - we need to get rid of mase and replace him with a waterhouse or fitzy esc player or just a genuine backrower that can go the 80 and do some work. Also, it highlights how we need to get rid of braith and move maubs into lock - better balance, and use braith's money on a good quality outside back (centre). If we make those 3 adjustments that I just prefaced I think the side has the makings of being one of the better ones going around - speed and strike power in the backs and a well balanced forward pack. I think Symonds and Cherro should be jostling for a bench spot week in week out - will ensure we get the best out of cherro in particular and also means that spot will always be an impact one - he who is in form gets it.

Also, I know a team sheet doesnt quite show it but I think pez and mini should swap around all of the time in attack and defence - would increase our unpredictability and means that we get the best of pez and mini's games combined

[theGman]

U20's squad for 2010

What would you guys think of a team like this:

1. Anthony Minichiello
2. Sam Perrett
3. Mitch Aubusson
4. Ryan Williamson
5. Phil Graham
6. Todd Carney
7. Mitchell Pearce
8. Frank Paul-Nuusuala
9. Jake Friend
10. Jason Ryles
11. Willie Mason
12. Nate Myles
13. Braith Anasta (c)

14. Lopini Paea
15. Anthony Cherrington
16. Jared Wearea-Hargreaves
17. James Aubusson

That seems like a pretty solid team all round. Having Phil Graham on the wing would allow for Ryan Williamson to come into the centres and I think that's probably our best combination. Ben Jones has not been listed because IMO if he doesn't play hooker we shouldn't maybe have him on the bench. If Jake Friend ever gets injured and we don't have a specialist hooker on the bench, we will be stuffed. Also we need Todd Carney and Mitchell Pearce to spend every minute on the field and can't afford for Jones to come in and play in the halves because we need cohesion there to be successful. So from the previous teams I've listed on the forums, Fine Moeakiola and Ben Jones back to NYC, Shaun Kenny-Dowall to start the year at Newtown as well as Tom Symonds as he recovers from his shoulder operation. As you can see, if we have bought Jason Ryles, our pack will be a pretty damn good one if you ask me. A lot of size, impact and aggression coming off the bench. That's definitely a top 8 team IMO.

Hey Footy/Roz or anyone else who may know,
who has been retained and released from the 2009 U20's team?
Thanks.
p.s Roz, would be a real downer for Ben Jones if he didn't start 2010 in first grade, considering his good form toward the end of '09 which earnt him a call up to the Aust PM side.

[Guest]

Hey Footy/Roz or anyone else who may know,
who has been retained and released from the 2009 U20's team?
Thanks.
p.s Roz, would be a real downer for Ben Jones if he didn't start 2010 in first grade, considering his good form toward the end of '09 which earnt him a call up to the Aust PM side.

NYC 2010

Gains:

Olomanu Usini - Parramatta Eels SG Ball
John Leiataua - Parramatta Eels SG Ball
Hughie Stanley - Lower Clarence Magpies
JP Du Plessis - SA Rugby
Reece Jaegar - St Mary's College, Gunnedah
Lou Goodwin - Red Bend College, Forbes
Jake Grace - Red Bend College, Forbes
Joseph Leilua - St George Dragons SG Ball
Tim Burrell - Canterbury Bulldogs SG Ball
Keanu Te Kiri - Palm Beach Currumbin State High, QLD *
Henare Wells - Keebra Park High, QLD*

Rumoured Gains:

Pakisonasi Afu - Canterbury Bulldogs NYC

Losses:

Andrew Clayton - Brisbane Broncos NYC

Retained:

Matthew Hands
Brad Murray
Cheyse Blair *
Olireti Samuelu
Jacob Miller *
Dane Atkinson *
Fine Moeakiola
Isaac Maliota
Samuel Brunton
Ryan Williamson **
Ben Jones **
Jake Friend **
Tufuga Sa
Boyd Cordner */**
Ethan Lowe
Jack Littlejohn
Anthony Gelling
Grant Nelson
Jerome Leolahi
Andrew Haines
Tom Pelo
Samson Manu'a

Released:

Cyprian Ale

Unsure:

Dane Cordner

* SG Ball eligible 2010
** Although full-time squad 2010, still NYC eligible


That's just about all I know at the moment. We're assembling a very, very strong side for next season. If we field anywhere near a full-strength side, we'll be one of the top sides next year.

My full-strength NYC side 2010

1. Cheyse Blair
2. Hughie Stanley
3. Ryan Williamson
4. JP Du Plessis
5. Fine Moeakiola
6. Brad Murray
7. Ben Jones
8. Isaac Maliota
9. Samuel Brunton
10. Pakisonasi Afu
11. Boyd Cordner
12. Joseph Leilua
13. Jerome Leolahi (c)

14. Tom Pelo
15. Olireti Samuelu
16. Ethan Lowe
17. Samson Manu'a

That is a great NYC team. I included Ben Jones in the NYC side because I just can't see him getting a run in the top 17 in first grade. No doubt he is a good player but there's just no room to fit him in so I'd play him at 7. He needs to constantly be touching the ball to be used effectively. He played there in SG Ball and was their best player by far. I didn't include Jake Friend because I don't think there is even the slightest chance of him going back to the NYC next year. And if Ryan Williamson, Boyd Cordner, JP Du Plessis, Joseph Leilua and Fine Moeakiola don't move up to NRL during the year, this side will be very dangerous.

[Guest]

NYC 2010

Gains:

Olomanu Usini - Parramatta Eels SG Ball
John Leiataua - Parramatta Eels SG Ball
Hughie Stanley - Lower Clarence Magpies
JP Du Plessis - SA Rugby
Reece Jaegar - St Mary's College, Gunnedah
Lou Goodwin - Red Bend College, Forbes
Jake Grace - Red Bend College, Forbes
Joseph Leilua - St George Dragons SG Ball
Tim Burrell - Canterbury Bulldogs SG Ball
Keanu Te Kiri - Palm Beach Currumbin State High, QLD *
Henare Wells - Keebra Park High, QLD*

Rumoured Gains:

Pakisonasi Afu - Canterbury Bulldogs NYC

Losses:

Andrew Clayton - Brisbane Broncos NYC

Retained:

Matthew Hands
Brad Murray
Cheyse Blair *
Olireti Samuelu
Jacob Miller *
Dane Atkinson *
Fine Moeakiola
Isaac Maliota
Samuel Brunton
Ryan Williamson **
Ben Jones **
Jake Friend **
Tufuga Sa
Boyd Cordner */**
Ethan Lowe
Jack Littlejohn
Anthony Gelling
Grant Nelson
Jerome Leolahi
Andrew Haines
Tom Pelo
Samson Manu'a

Released:

Cyprian Ale

Unsure:

Dane Cordner

* SG Ball eligible 2010
** Although full-time squad 2010, still NYC eligible


That's just about all I know at the moment. We're assembling a very, very strong side for next season. If we field anywhere near a full-strength side, we'll be one of the top sides next year.

My full-strength NYC side 2010

1. Cheyse Blair
2. Hughie Stanley
3. Ryan Williamson
4. JP Du Plessis
5. Fine Moeakiola
6. Brad Murray
7. Ben Jones
8. Isaac Maliota
9. Samuel Brunton
10. Pakisonasi Afu
11. Boyd Cordner
12. Joseph Leilua
13. Jerome Leolahi (c)

14. Tom Pelo
15. Olireti Samuelu
16. Ethan Lowe
17. Samson Manu'a

That is a great NYC team. I included Ben Jones in the NYC side because I just can't see him getting a run in the top 17 in first grade. No doubt he is a good player but there's just no room to fit him in so I'd play him at 7. He needs to constantly be touching the ball to be used effectively. He played there in SG Ball and was their best player by far. I didn't include Jake Friend because I don't think there is even the slightest chance of him going back to the NYC next year. And if Ryan Williamson, Boyd Cordner, JP Du Plessis, Joseph Leilua and Fine Moeakiola don't move up to NRL during the year, this side will be very dangerous.

Ryan Williamson must be up for a big year. Starting spot in both first grade and NYC??!!