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  • #91
    Izzy should come to us.
    What do we have spiders all over us or something?

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    • #92
      Just as an aside, I think if young Horry comes to us, young Pearce would be able to play a good mentor role with him. Mitch has had all the pressure of living up to the family name, just as Jackson will have similar expectations. Pearce has certainly gone off the rails & made plenty of mistakes, on & off the field, so now that he's maturing, he should be able to be a good role model to him.

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      • #93
        I'm hearing Knights are in the running as well.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by melon.... View Post
          Izzy will go to the Dogs. we'll go after Morris instead. Wise decision.
          Din and Nick making deals again ..heard that a little while ago but only as a rumour
          Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe

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          • #95
            I really don't rate Morris all that highly so I hope it's not true.

            His defence, or lack there of was on display in origin again on Wednesday letting in the only try of the night for NSW. And he's shown just how inefficient his attack is this year at scoring if the opportunities aren't created for him by someone elses good work. A glorified finisher if I've ever seen one.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
              I really don't rate Morris all that highly so I hope it's not true.

              His defence, or lack there of was on display in origin again on Wednesday letting in the only try of the night for NSW. And he's shown just how inefficient his attack is this year at scoring if the opportunities aren't created for him by someone elses good work. A glorified finisher if I've ever seen one.
              Very harsh.

              Don't think many players in the game would stop Inglis in a scenario like that. QLD were on the break, Morris had probably rushed back to get into the defensive line, Inglis got the ball on the run and was already outside him, and we all know his fend is second to none.

              Morris' defence isn't all that bad. He is lightning quick, has some size to him, and playing outside a guy like SBW (if he's still here), he'd kill it.

              At the right price he'd be one of our better buys.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
                I really don't rate Morris all that highly so I hope it's not true.

                His defence, or lack there of was on display in origin again on Wednesday letting in the only try of the night for NSW. And he's shown just how inefficient his attack is this year at scoring if the opportunities aren't created for him by someone elses good work. A glorified finisher if I've ever seen one.
                lol

                6 - basing his opinion of an outstanding player like Morris not even on one game, but on one incident within a game

                remember his performance containing Inglis in origin last year 6? if you're so keen on one off appraisals, why not use that one instead?

                compare Morris to SKD if you'd like another meausre by which to judge him

                you are hilarious mate

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
                  I really don't rate Morris all that highly so I hope it's not true.

                  His defence, or lack there of was on display in origin again on Wednesday letting in the only try of the night for NSW. And he's shown just how inefficient his attack is this year at scoring if the opportunities aren't created for him by someone elses good work. A glorified finisher if I've ever seen one.
                  You didn't want Maloney either. How's that working out for you?

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                  • #99
                    So we are now knocking back having both origin centres.

                    I'd be happy with Morris outside SBW.

                    He can run a hard straight line (no crabbing), he has speed, he can draw and pass, he can defend bombs and he is a great defender and he would be on par with SKD's salary. We are getting so ripped off.

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                    • Originally posted by BlindFreddy View Post
                      Very harsh.

                      Don't think many players in the game would stop Inglis in a scenario like that. QLD were on the break, Morris had probably rushed back to get into the defensive line, Inglis got the ball on the run and was already outside him, and we all know his fend is second to none.

                      Morris' defence isn't all that bad. He is lightning quick, has some size to him, and playing outside a guy like SBW (if he's still here), he'd kill it.

                      At the right price he'd be one of our better buys.
                      At the right price he'd be a good buy, unfortunately I think the right price is about half of what he'd demand on the open market.

                      This is a bloke who would be getting offers in the region of 500-600k.

                      His defence isn't anywhere near as bad as it used to be, but it's still very average and that's putting it nicely. I just don't rate centres who can't create chances, it's my biggest qualm with SKD. We'd essentially be swapping a good finisher with poor defence & inability to create chances for exactly the same thing in Josh Morris + a few hundred thousand extra.

                      I'd much rather invest in the youngsters we've got coming through, Moga is obviously first in line.

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                      • I don't see it happening but a backline of

                        1. RTS (future NZ international)
                        2. Tupou
                        3. Jennings (Aus and NSW rep player)
                        4. Morris (Aus and NSW rep player)
                        5. Moga/Oldfied
                        6. Maloney (NSW rep player)
                        7. Pearce (NSW rep player)

                        is stunning. Can't think of a better one in the last 20 years.
                        Last edited by Dimorphic; 06-07-2013, 04:40 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by Waylander View Post
                          You didn't want Maloney either. How's that working out for you?
                          After watching him for 3 months I think it's pretty clear I underrated his running game, I always thought he was an exceptional support player but nearly all his linebreaks this year have come off the back of his own individual brilliance which has surprised me. I also underrated his kicking game which has been surprisingly decent.

                          In my defence I still maintain that we lack creativity in the big games and it worries me to be honest. When you think of our toughest games this year; Souffs, Brisbane, Manly, Cowboys, Raiders & Storm we've struggled to create points.

                          In those games the stats stand as this;



                          When Pearce is our creative outlet in the big games you know we're just not creating enough. I still think we need someone with that spark in attack. However I also retract my comments that we wont win a premiership with Maloney at 5/8, he's shown more ability than I gave him credit for and I think our deficiencies can go a long way to being solved by getting a fullback who'll be heavily involved in our attack. Whether that's Tomkins or RTS it doesn't matter I think both are classy players who add another dimension to our attack.

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                          • I think you're positing a straw man argument there, R6. Your rationale is bizarre and your selective 'evidence' above is Alan Jones-esque in its red-herring-like genius.
                            Making Steve Naughton look like Vince Mellars...

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                            • Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
                              At the right price he'd be a good buy, unfortunately I think the right price is about half of what he'd demand on the open market.

                              This is a bloke who would be getting offers in the region of 500-600k.

                              His defence isn't anywhere near as bad as it used to be, but it's still very average and that's putting it nicely. I just don't rate centres who can't create chances, it's my biggest qualm with SKD. We'd essentially be swapping a good finisher with poor defence & inability to create chances for exactly the same thing in Josh Morris + a few hundred thousand extra.

                              I'd much rather invest in the youngsters we've got coming through, Moga is obviously first in line.
                              Considering SKD would probably be on only 100K less than that, Morris would be a great buy. He is easily a 100K better centre than Kenny-Dowall.

                              If you call Morris' defence very average, Kenny-Dowall's must be abysmal in your books - yes he's improved this year, but Morris has it all over him in physicality and reading the play. He is also one of the quickest players in the competition and very strong in contact.

                              We would be a swapping a rocks and diamonds player who is as likely to bomb a try as he is to score one, and is as likely to shirt grab as he is to hit with the shoulder, for a very consistent rep quality center who is lightning fast, and a tried and tested finisher as well as a solid defender.

                              All for the price of 100K.

                              Can't see why we'd say no.

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                              • I mean if try assists are one of the key indicators of creativity (as you imply) then using Pearce as a yardstick for uncreativity is bizarre given that Pearce always rates highly, competition-wide, in that area.
                                Making Steve Naughton look like Vince Mellars...

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