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  • #31
    Originally posted by elo View Post
    I was shocked when JWH was charged with a reckless tackle tbh, if George Rose doesn't bend his knees and lower himself just before contact he gets smashed in the chest, it's clearly a mid to high grading careless tackle (due to the force) and unintentional. I hope the club challenges it but I suspect they won't.
    Looking at the hit with a fresh pair of eyes I think it was reckless. JWH had time to decide his approach, he elevated himself just before contact (which sort of mitigates Rose lowering himself) and while he didn't throw out a stiff arm it was still swinging with direct contact to the chin.

    While I don't agree with the system of loading that punishes this tackle far more than it deserves, I think it's pretty tough to argue against the actual gradings.

    I'm not sure, can you use a case of precedent at the judiciary? I know in the AFL its inadmissible and a charge needs to be downgraded or cleared on its own merits.

    If we fight this I'll be shocked.

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    • #32
      We have taken the early plea, JWH gone for 5 weeks.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Dubai View Post
        JWH rips in with a swinging arm. Burgess didn't. Tackles are far from similar.

        Contact with the head should have seen Burgess get a week. Being round one probably let him off.

        JWH got 2 weeks for this tackle. People keep forgetting this. He has 150% loading because of similar incidents in the past 2 seasons.

        I repeat, with a clean record he gets 2 weeks.

        The whip of JWH's arm is what has triggered reckless over careless.
        150% of 2 weeks is 3 weeks. Not 5-7.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by rooster_booster View Post
          150% of 2 weeks is 3 weeks. Not 5-7.
          I believe the 150% loading is applied on top of the base penalty

          so 2 weeks is the base, + 150% (3 weeks) = 5 weeks

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          • #35
            Originally posted by tony the wheel View Post
            I believe the 150% loading is applied on top of the base penalty

            so 2 weeks is the base, + 150% (3 weeks) = 5 weeks
            So does this loading get reset after the suspension or is even a minor offense going to cost him 3 weeks in future?

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            • #36
              We will certainly miss him, but giving one of your star players a rest in the middle of the year is not a bad thing. He will come back raring to go in the middle of the SOO campaign when others will need a lift. Its a long season, and an break like this will give him a chance to get rid of the niggles and freshen up mentally as well.

              It is also one of the positions we have a lot of depth in. LOD, Kennedy, Napa, Lui, FPN, Evans, Tasi, Bosden are all potential replacements. It will give the best of these guys a chance to play FG which will be good for our depth around finals time.

              Just trying to look on the bright side!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by tony the wheel View Post
                I believe the 150% loading is applied on top of the base penalty

                so 2 weeks is the base, + 150% (3 weeks) = 5 weeks
                Thats outrageous. Graham got 8 weeks for biting. What a joke.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by rooster_booster View Post
                  Thats outrageous. Graham got 8 weeks for biting. What a joke.
                  He got 12. And that was lenient.
                  SUPER DRAGON!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by BUDDY View Post
                    So does this loading get reset after the suspension or is even a minor offense going to cost him 3 weeks in future?
                    the former

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by rooster_booster View Post
                      Thats outrageous. Graham got 8 weeks for biting. What a joke.
                      because he had no loading

                      if he had the same as JWH, he'd have got...

                      actually, see if you can work it out

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by rooster_booster View Post
                        150% of 2 weeks is 3 weeks. Not 5-7.
                        Oh dear.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by BUDDY View Post
                          So does this loading get reset after the suspension or is even a minor offense going to cost him 3 weeks in future?
                          Loading for a repeat offence stays on a players record for 2 years.

                          http://www.nrl.com/nrlhq/referencece...5/default.aspx

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by tony the wheel View Post
                            My God 6, fancy comparing it to the Burgess one. They're not even close to the same. JWH is reckless because of the swinging arm

                            The club should only seek a downgrade if there was a possibility of him getting 2 weeks. If 3 or 4 is the best case scenario then forget about it, and cop the 5
                            Both are wrapping arms, not swinging arms.

                            Just stick to giving us the latest scoops from News Ltd HQ.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
                              Both are wrapping arms, not swinging arms.

                              Just stick to giving us the latest scoops from News Ltd HQ.
                              you need to get your eyes checked 6

                              I suppose the proof was in the pudding - early guilty plea taken, out for 5 weeks

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by tony the wheel View Post
                                you need to get your eyes checked 6

                                I suppose the proof was in the pudding - early guilty plea taken, out for 5 weeks
                                shutup you cockfingering jibberer
                                When you trust your television
                                what you get is what you got
                                Cause when they own the information
                                they can bend it all they want

                                John Mayer

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