Boyd cordner pleads not guilty

[sydroosters]

Boyd Cordner is set to challenge the tough stand the NRL has taken against fighting - the Sydney Roosters forward choosing to defend a grade one charge for striking Parramatta's Matt Ryan.

Cordner will fight the charge at the judiciary on Wednesday night, with nothing to lose - after facing the prospect of a one-match ban whether or not he pleaded guilty to the charge.

The hearing shapes as a window into the NRL's plan to combat on-field brawling after Paul Gallen copped a one-game suspension for his stink with Nate Myles in State of Origin I.

Gallen was hit with a grade two striking charge for his fight with Myles.

Sonny Bill Williams and Terry Campese were also charged for incidents in round 13 but both escaped suspension after lodging early guilty pleas


he should get off because its preety wrong that what gallen done on Wednesday he gets 1 week were cordner done no way near as bad as what gallen done. what about fui fui? he came in 3rd man and elbowed mini and hes probly gonna get nothing

[fletch]

no way he gets off, the NRL will clamp down on fighting in non origin matches.

[Tommy Smith]

Cordner is a scapegoat. Fletch is right - he has no chance of getting off.

[Guest]

wasnt there a fight in one of the saturday night games? where is the charge for that as punches were definitely thrown

[Guest]

If they use the gallen incident as a precedent prosecutors will argue the swinging arm and the fight that followed come under the same charge ie the fight was part of the swinging arm offence

[Spirit of 66]

Subtle manipulation of the truth in that article. Boyd is not set "to challenge the tough stand the NRL has taken against fighting". He is defending himself against a charge.

He is not an evil reactionary challenging the "morally tough NRL". He is exercising his right to have his story heard.

Meanwhile, Paul Gallen is depicted as an heroic god for brutally king hitting a player for no evident reason whatsoever.

[John Corey]

no way he gets off, the NRL will clamp down on fighting in non origin matches.

Spot on fletch

[The Rooster Oracle]

Cordner in his defense should bring up as a precedent the $ouff$ vs manly game, where sam burgess as third man in got away with no charge for doing what was worse than what Cordner did. But then again its ok if your wearing a $ouff$ jersey as compared to a Roosters one, two sets of rules!

[Guest]

Grade 1 striking ... Did Cordner even connect?

Is there a place where the judiciary charges are explained and the grading levels with points etc? If there isn't a site, surely the public should be privy to this info?

[ism22]

I'll miss him while he's out for 10 weeks instead of 1 but good on him for challenging!!

Our North Korean courts p!ss me off because they force you to prove you're innocent rather than asking the NRL to prove you're guilty. You know your punishment before you've even been found guilty FFS!!

Too many don't challenge because they know the system's rigged.

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To me players shouldn't be seen as "challengers." The refs should have to put forward a case to a 3rd party...

The 3rd party (e.g. some random from Super League or an ex judge who only watches Union) should then give their opinion before the player has even said anything.

Giving your side of the case isn't refusing to cooperate. IMO The only punishments given out should be for:
a) Wayne Bennett going to the media and saying "there's nothing in it and he'll get off" before the trial.
b) Being a d!ck to the refs when they put you on report and arguing on field (e.g. when Gallen blamed Myles for twisting his legs rather than just copping it.)

Once the sentence is given out you should be able to appeal... so should the refs. E.g. Slater is now the only player in the comp allowed to sure up his air catches by kicking opponents in the head if they get close. Klemmer got hit with a reputation for tackling a guy in the air (which he didn't.)

Klemmer should be able to appeal (with not punishment) and say "look I'm a young player... Slater + Bennett have used their standing in the game to bully me into pleading guilty when Slater's the one who should cop a 6 match ban for being a grub! He has a history of leading with his feet and should be taught a lesson."

[Guest]

no way he gets off, the NRL will clamp down on fighting in non origin matches.

This.

The NRL are looking to get on the front foot with this shite and unfortunately Boyd is the first one into bat.

[Guest]

Subtle manipulation of the truth in that article. Boyd is not set "to challenge the tough stand the NRL has taken against fighting". He is defending himself against a charge.

He is not an evil reactionary challenging the "morally tough NRL". He is exercising his right to have his story heard.

Meanwhile, Paul Gallen is depicted as an heroic god for brutally king hitting a player for no evident reason whatsoever.

**** me I'm sick of this shit.

How the farrk was it a king hit, Spirit?

Myles got up and shoved him ffs.

You shove someone then you should expect to get down and dirty!

It's not Gallens fault that he was too stupid to hold his hands up.

[Spirit of 66]

**** me I'm sick of this shit.

How the farrk was it a king hit, Spirit?

Myles got up and shoved him ffs.

You shove someone then you should expect to get down and dirty!

It's not Gallens fault that he was too stupid to hold his hands up.

I used to think that a "king hit" was a punch that came from outside the target's view - from behind, for example. But I was told (it might have been here) that it is actually any punch delivered without both fighters first taking a fighting stance. So if both players had their hands by the sides, just staring angrily at each other, and one just unexpectedly threw a punch, that was a "king hit".

I concede that I am not an expert at the protocols involved in street fighting. In Gallen's place, I would have been tempted to write Myles a savagely worded note some time after the game. Or maybe a satirical poem. But I digress...

I don't think Gallen was justified in punching Myles even if Myles shoved him.

I don't think Cordner was justified in punching the Eels player even if the Eels player shouldered him in the face.

I think that there have been a lot of media reports applauding Gallen's heroism for punching Myles.

The report that I highlighted was of a very different tone.

I was merely highlighting what I saw as double standards in reporting.

(Oh, and I agree that Myles is stupid too. And really ugly.)

[Salvatori Grubber]

**** me I'm sick of this shit.

How the farrk was it a king hit, Spirit?

Myles got up and shoved him ffs.

You shove someone then you should expect to get down and dirty!

It's not Gallens fault that he was too stupid to hold his hands up.

Loathe as I am to defend that rat Gallen, I agree with Greeds entirely. You live by the sword, etc...

[Salvatori Grubber]

Fair enough Spirit, I applaud your pacifist's stance.

Judging by your definition of "king hit", I've been guilty of delivering two in my lifetime (in my younger days of course). Both times some dude got up in my grill and threatened me verbally, so I responded by punching him in the head. As far as I'm concerned I was within my rights, boor that I am.