Is Mini Worth Another Year?

[stsae]

You prick.







Can't get anymore hook ups so change of direction?
Crack up.

No I'm serious mate.

FB, captain, co-coach and trainee CEO.

Eying off Uncle Nicks reign.

Go MINI.

[Arties Pie]

They are all forwards mate.

And Mini is on the cap for very little cos he's our long serving allowance man.

Can't see the correlation myself???


I reckon he will re-sign for another season.

The players seem to love him, so does the coach, the club and a lot of the fans.

And if it pisses many off here I'm all for it.

Go Mini.

How many players can recieve the allowance at any one time ? , I was under the impression it was one and if so when does Pearce qualify for it ? On the subject that they are all forwards we need to keep those to don't we ?

[roostersrule2]

I know he said he wouldn't but it would kill me to see Mini sign with another NRL club.

Also keeping him on the wing keeps out Moga from the side (providing SKD is not back to bad form).

[stsae]

How many players can recieve the allowance at any one time ? , I was under the impression it was one and if so when does Pearce qualify for it ? On the subject that they are all forwards we need to keep those to don't we ?

From my understanding its a set amount spread between as many as qualify under the rules mate??? 8 years???

I'm sure Oldman will know more, he's the new/old expert on here.

If that's the case I'd guess Maubs, PearceOrf, Butterball, SKiD would have to be thereabouts???


I agree with the pigs, you can never have too many. But I don't see where keeping Mini or not affects forwards retention.

I think he will be re-signed somehow.

If so I'm gonna my arse off when this place goes into a Mini-meltdown.

[Guest]

I find it extraordinary that anybody who really loves this club would want to sacrifice our premiership chances for another year by giving this player yet another contract extension. Let's be serious people. His last season of really top class football, before he was cruelly struck down by injury, was 2006. Since those back injuries he no longer has the ability to bust tackles regularly or competently collect a rolling ball. He is now 33. This season through 14 matches he has made just three line breaks, one try assist and one line break assist (both of which came last Friday night). That is easily the worst stats of any fullback in the NRL. The position of fullback is crucial in today's games, with players playing in lanes, the ability to create an overlap through a fullback's pace and ball skills is critical. We do not have that. We also concede far too many line drop outs as he struggles to run the ball out of the in-goal area in his upright running stance. He has an appalling passing game, can not kick, rarely saves a try through his defence and is just awful trying to catch a ball at speed. He often gets in the way when he is the least attractive attacking option.

With Mitchell Pearce now being eligible for the long serving playing allowance (you get no advantages by having multiple players eligible) it would add further $$$$ to our cap which we really can not afford. Remember we have to pay Jennings' full salary next year and the salaries of players like Cordner, JWH, RTS, Friend, Tupou will increase substantially next year and beyond, as will some of our younger players who will come into the top tier like Napa, Martin and Evans. We also have a myriad of our best young talent coming off contract at the end of 2014 (Evans, Moga, Langi, Milne, McDonald, Willis Meehan, Elliott). The one carrot we can throw at these players to entice them to stay beyond 2014, that other clubs can not offer, is to upgrade their 2014 contracts as part of any extension. Do you really want to risk losing these players to keep a bloke who'll be 34 next year and has as many flaws in his game as Mini?

Do you seriously think that RTS is not ready to play fullback in the NRL and be more effective than Mini? He is more than likely going to be NZ's test fullback at this years World Cup (and they are the defending champions). What message are you sending to RTS by extending Mini a further year? How many other NRL clubs would jump at the chance to play RTS at fullback at their club, compared to how many would jump to play Mini there? Do you remember his game against the Warriors in Round 2 that nearly cost us the game? Was that something, as he gets older, that we will not see again?

You can not believe he could be an effective fist grade winger? For starters he could not play right wing as he can not pass right to left (think - intercept pass v Melbourne, bombed try v Warriors to Aubusson) and his left to right passing isn't much better (think pass to RTS's feet on Friday night). if he played left wing he couldn't keep up with Jennings and would offer very little to a team wishing to press for grand final success. Do you seriously think that you couldn't get a better winger than Mini to play for the sort of money he'd demand?

We have looked after Mini very well and the club has been extremely loyal to him. He was our highest paid player for many years when he struggled to play due to injury (33 games in 4 years at one stage) and since those contracts expired he has never been the same player, and certainly never been amongst the better players in his position in the NRL, but we have kept extending his contract, far beyond what would be reasonable repayment for his great play of 2003-2005. You must call a halt at some stage and that stage is well passed. Last year the Top 4 teams had the best four fullbacks - it has become as important position as any in the game - let's not fill it based on sentiment - let's fill it based on what gives us the best chance to win a premiership. We have won just one competition in 38 years. They are bloody hard to win.

It's nice to feel affection for people, particularly for a player who has been with us since 1997, but you can not, and should not, put that affection above the best interests of the club and team. Most importantly, look at the whole package when you watch Mini, and do at the ground, not on TV, and be objective, and you will see a player who should not be contracted to my NRL club beyond 2013.

[stsae]

Oldman on cue.

Minister for propaganda.

MINI for PM.

[Guest]

As long as its not at the expense of an up and coming young gun. Mini has been great and he is free. Can't get better than that!

Read my thread above. HE IS NOT FREE NEXT YEAR. Any player who has been at the club for eight years from Under 20's level and above can be used to claim the $200k allowance, but it can be spread across one or multiple players. Pearce, Aubusson, FPN and SKD all played Under 20's in 2006, so as long as one of those players is with us next year then we get the $200k allowance.

[chook 56]

Oldman on cue.

Minister for propaganda.

MINI for PM.

Mini to the backbench

[stsae]

Mini to the backbench

What about my fishing skills maaaaaaaaaaate???

I've caught a few whoppers the last 24 hours.

No nudie run for meeeeeeeeeee.

[davos]

Mini to the backbench

They way mini is getting bagged on this forum, you'd think he was the one who introduced the carbon tax.

[stsae]

They way mini is getting bagged on this forum, you'd think he was the one who introduced the carbon tax.

No the GST.

[chook 56]

What about my fishing skills maaaaaaaaaaate???

I've caught a few whoppers the last 24 hours.

No nudie run for meeeeeeeeeee.

LOL
You still got, maaaaate.



Now see if you can catch the incredibly shy Alfredo fish.
It is now only seen on rare occasions.

[Andrew Walker]

I will trust the club to sort this one out Ideally though we win the GF this year and Mini hangs up his boots and moves into the role of Fatherhood

Newman I hope you are not losing sleep over all of this You seem very disturbed

[davos]

No the GST.

Still, I reckon if he went up against Abbott and Gillard he'd get the nod over those two.

[Guest]

I will trust the club to sort this one out Ideally though we win the GF this year and Mini hangs up his boots and moves into the role of Fatherhood

Newman I hope you are not losing sleep over all of this You seem very disturbed

No, no sleep lost. I also have faith in our senior management and I'm confident they'll put the interests of the club ahead of the interests of one player, and will let Mini's management know that they'll be no contract for him next year, despite how much the player wishes to play on, and on and on.