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  • Move on Jason Ryles bad for Willie Mason

    Stuart Honeysett | September 16, 2009
    Article from: The Australian

    THE future of Willie Mason at the Sydney Roosters is in doubt following revelations that the club is chasing former Test prop Jason Ryles and sacked Wallaby Lote Tuqiri's negotiations with a French rugby club have ended.

    Mason is contracted to the club until the end of the 2010 season, but speculation has been rife all year that he will be released to pursue a career in Japanese rugby union.

    That speculation will only intensify after it emerged the club is interested in former St George Illawarra prop Ryles, who is playing in France with Les Catalans.

    Tuqiri could loom as another option after the French rugby club he was expected to sign with, Bayonne, pulled out of talks because it was unhappy with his price tag.

    "Following the latest financial demands of Lote Tuqiri, Bayonne has decided to bring talks with the Australian player to an end," the Top 14 club said in a statement.

    While Bayonne's interest has cooled, Stade Francais, the club of former Dragons captain Mark Gasnier, is believed to be still interested in Tuqiri.

    Bayonne's withdrawal from talks with Tuqiri could be a negotiating tactic, but the club is also chasing South African winger Brian Habana while Brisbane fullback Karmichael Hunt could be a target before his move to the Gold Coast-based AFL team in 2011.

    Tuqiri has been looking for a new club since the Australian Rugby Union sacked him for breach of contract. Tuqiri eventually settled out of court in a confidential agreement.

    NRL chief executive David Gallop has said he will refuse to allow a NRL club to sign Tuqiri unless the Wallabies winger declares the reason for his sacking.

    Tuqiri had earlier offered to disclose the reasons for his dismissal before doing an about-face and saying the terms of his settlement with the ARU meant he couldn't.

    Gallop and Tuqiri recently bumped into each other in Sydney and had informal talks. And the NRL boss indicated he would be keen to see the former Wallaby return to the code he started in.

    However, Gallop maintained yesterday it was standard business practice for any employer to ask an employee why they had been sacked from their previous job.

    "There's never been any suggestions by us that we want to broadcast it to the world," Gallop said.

    "Despite the speculation, for all we know it could be something completely different."

    The Roosters are favoured to sign Tuqiri if he returns to the NRL, given chairman Nick Politis has expressed a keen interest in him.

    There has been speculation that Politis is also opposed to Gallop's insistence that Tuqiri disclose his sins before he is allowed to sign with a club.

    It is believed the Roosters could only offer Tuqiri a back-ended contract that would see him earning just $120,000 in 2010, with more money in subsequent years.

    "He's been an amazing player over the years so I'm sure any club would be interested in him," Roosters recruitment manager Peter O'Sullivan said.

    "But it will be interesting to see if anyone can afford him. What he is worth and what he can earn are two different things, I guess."

    Wests Tigers are also interested in Tuqiri and coach Tim Sheens contacted him before the winger flew to France on a recent whirlwind trip.

    The Tigers are keen to use Tuqiri as a fullback and are also believed to be prepared to offer him a back-ended contract.

    "We had a meeting a couple of weeks ago but he's got to sort out what he's doing," Tigers recruitment manager Warren McDonnell said.

    "It's his call. He's got to sort out where he is with union or league or whatever and we can see what happens from there.

    "We'll be able to tell him then what we can or can't do."




    $120,000 is not that bad for lote. i no people on here dont want him and wouldnt pay a cent from him etc etc, but he is going to add something to any team, and being realistic, if we get him for that price, i think it would be money well spent - we already have enough, and have recruited enough youth, so he would add some experience to the team aswell.

  • #2
    Do you know what a backended contract is mate?

    It goes something like this

    2010 $120,000
    2011 $250,000
    2012 $380,000

    It is the kind of thing that has cost dearly in the past with Mason backended contract which apparently sees him getting $500,000 next season maybe more.

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    • #3
      The writer of the article is right on the money.

      Uncle Nick has an agreement in place with Lote (though it seems to be of the Wayne Bennett variety of agreement - a gentleman's one).

      Brian Smith met with all players mano-a-mano last week.

      Willy has no place in his plans at all - not because of his onfield possibilities but because of his bad influence on the kids.

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      • #4
        If Mason goes, I think we should try and blood either Masoe or Cherrington as his replacement. Both of those kids are young (Masoe is 20, Cherrington is 21), both are 110kg+, and they can have the opportunity to slowly develop whilst given an extended opportunity.

        Mason brings too much off-field negative influence.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by The Mack View Post
          If Mason goes,
          Mason is history.

          My mail is that Smith has said he doesn't care if they pay him to take the season off. He will be nowhere near the club.

          The only way I can see that changing is Mason coming on his knees to Smith and showing some genuine change. Long shot but possible.

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          • #6
            The Anus speaks well.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by The Anus View Post
              The writer of the article is right on the money.

              Uncle Nick has an agreement in place with Lote (though it seems to be of the Wayne Bennett variety of agreement - a gentleman's one).

              Brian Smith met with all players mano-a-mano last week.

              Willy has no place in his plans at all - not because of his onfield possibilities but because of his bad influence on the kids.
              The last sentence is the key one.

              That has been our problem for the last two seasons.

              Smith may have his detractors on here but he is no fool.
              Born and bred in the eastern suburbs.

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              • #8
                Mason's presence is not only a bad influence, but he holds back some of our younger weapons like Cherro and Masoe who both have big futures.

                Personally, I would have preferred to see Mason go, and Fitzgibbon to stay. That way, Cherrington/Masoe could have an experienced and honest influence in the backrow with them.

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                • #9
                  I am as sad as anyone to see Fitzy go - but he had reached his use-by date.

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                  • #10
                    I'm liking the sound of Smith based on what "The Anus" has written here and hope this bodes well for the future. Mason has perplexed me, he came good late into the year but then put the queue in the rack for the last 3 rounds - odd. Contrast this with the man who is unfortunately off to Hull - the mighty Fitzy.
                    "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."

                    Thomas Jefferson

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by The Anus View Post
                      I am as sad as anyone to see Fitzy go - but he had reached his use-by date.
                      He was still performing to the very end TA, one more year at least to provide the experience and good influence on the younger players coming through.
                      Surely Fitzy deserved that?
                      "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."

                      Thomas Jefferson

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                      • #12
                        I think we are just crazy to let Willie Mason goes. I know he hasnt played the best of his ability this year but im sure next year he will pick his game up. His a massive forward and every know's what he is capable of. I still have huge faith in mason and believe he can be a dominant forward for us in 2010. I hope he stays and even siggns on even longer if he has no where to go.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by eleroy View Post
                          I think we are just crazy to let Willie Mason goes. I know he hasnt played the best of his ability this year but im sure next year he will pick his game up. His a massive forward and every know's what he is capable of. I still have huge faith in mason and believe he can be a dominant forward for us in 2010. I hope he stays and even siggns on even longer if he has no where to go.
                          Did he play to the best of his ability in 2008?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by eleroy View Post
                            I think we are just crazy to let Willie Mason goes. I know he hasnt played the best of his ability this year but im sure next year he will pick his game up. His a massive forward and every know's what he is capable of. I still have huge faith in mason and believe he can be a dominant forward for us in 2010. I hope he stays and even siggns on even longer if he has no where to go.
                            There's more to Willie than what he does on the field and I think that needs to be taken into account.
                            "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."

                            Thomas Jefferson

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                            • #15
                              I have now heard the same thing about Mason also.

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