Repeat sets- what's the obsession?

[Chook Norris]

This is the most idiotic debate I've ever been involved in.

It's not repeat sets v tries.

It's repeat sets v 20 metre restarts.

Jesus fcuking Christ.

some people prefer gifting the opposition 20 metre restarts unfortunately...

[Guest]

some people prefer gifting the opposition 20 metre restarts unfortunately...

Just for interest sake, does anyone know where we sit on the table for 20 metre restarts conceded?

If we are low on that list then maybe the repeat set stat isn't so damning?

[The Rooster Oracle]

We don't need to change our game-plan.
Pearce goes for repeat sets basically every game.
I think all people want, is that if he goes for a repeat set, he stops the effin ball in the in-goal and we have a chance of getting one.
No one is saying we should stop scoring tries in order to get a repeat set. That would be preposterous.
It is about adding another dimension to our game.

Summed up well PTB! Pearce is having a great year but his short kicking game is bloody frustrating!! If he fixes this aspect of his game then he could find himself in the Kangaroos squad for the world cup, which he stated at the start of the year was his goal.

We need this ability of gaining repeat sets in our armory for the finals, it seems to be very under valued by many on here which I can't fathom. It is only our outstanding defense which is preventing this from being a bigger issue than what it is, but come the big games against $ouff$ and storm it is going to be important!

[The Rooster Oracle]

Just for interest sake, does anyone know where we sit on the table for 20 metre restarts conceded?

If we are low on that list then maybe the repeat set stat isn't so damning?

You also have to factor in the amount of times that the grubber kicks have failed to even make it into the ingoal.

[Guest]

We won a comp by kicking it dead in 2002. For me, Its about D. D that scares the shit out of the opposition to the point they dont want to come out again and face another 40 of that. Were not 2002 but were getting close. I recall we deliberately turned ball over on the last or even 4th....in 2002. Fittler kicked long and dead on purpose. We hammered teams in their own 20, theyd cough up wed score.

When your best attacking weapon is your D, you dont need repeat sets.

For most a good short kicking game and repeat sets is mandatory. For someone with superior D, and a cracking attack in open play, not so much.

We are the exception that can get away with it.

my memory of 2002 was that as part of our get out it was quite common for us to use long kicks on the fourth backed by a mobile agressive front/back row, tough little defensive orientated hooker a back row and lock who could get through an incredible amount of quality defence and as Jack's fur coat mention field position combined with this great defence worked hard for mistakes and possession with a creeping field position in their favour as was played out in its most developed form in the final encounter with the Warriors that year.

there are definitely a number of similarities to this years side. our short kicking game has to improve and be more consistent though.

[Guest]

my memory of 2002 was that as part of our get out it was quite common for us to use long kicks on the fourth backed by a mobile agressive front/back row, tough little defensive orientated hooker a back row and lock who could get through an incredible amount of quality defence and as Jack's fur coat mention field position combined with this great defence worked hard for mistakes and possession with a creeping field position in their favour as was played out in its most developed form in the final encounter with the Warriors that year.

there are definitely a number of similarities to this years side. our short kicking game has to improve and be more consistent though.

bang on frosty coq, I just thought it would have, seeing we have the two nsw soo halves and jt as assistant coach...

[Guest]

bang on frosty coq, I just thought it would have, seeing we have the two nsw soo halves and jt as assistant coach...

JT plays for Cows mate.

[The Rooster Oracle]

JT plays for Cows mate.

He is referring to Jason Taylor.

[Guest]

He has a strong kick and the defense sets for it.
We have a good attacking side I prefer they run the ball on last more than kicking it

Stats are a mixed bag and really need to be pulled apart because they can easily suit any arguement. The fact that a side has a high completion rate and get a high level of repeat sets may say as much about the predictability of their attack and their conservative approach to the game. Match that up against quality defence and not surprisingly lots of possession doesn't translate to points.

Agree with Brain and others that we have avoid the robotic approach to kicking on the fiifth

all about predictablility the 9, 7 and 6 need to be reading how the set is travelling and have options available .

we have got great jumpers in tupou and RTS - the fact that there appears to be no policing of defenders running chasers of the ball is nullifying this at times, still worth pursuing

jake has shown moments with his short kicking game such as his kick for Jennings against St.george

much as he gets a fair work over here Mitchell has a very good short passing game got us home against the cowboys and worked well with his edge runners throughout his recent games and remains a last tackle option. handing the ball back to the opposition 5m out and 15m in from touch is not so bad. Even the play that led to topou try from Jennings last weekend is an option.

no one can deny that having a quality short kicking game puts your edge defenders in a bind whether to come up or hold and it has to be part of the options available. they have to be convinced that there is a strong chance you are going to run the ballor put it through the hands to change the shape of the defensive line for short kicks to be effective otherwises its often going to be hit too hard and straight over the dead ball

[Guest]

bang on frosty coq, I just thought it would have, seeing we have the two nsw soo halves and jt as assistant coach...

very good Kegs

[Guest]

He is referring to Jason Taylor.

Our 20's coach?

[Guest]

Our 20's coach?

nah mate Jason taylor is the bloke inside the rooster mascot at every game.

[Kingsgrove-Loiner]

Our 20's coach?

Paul Green is the 20's coach mate.....get with the beat.

[stsae]

This is the most idiotic debate I've ever been involved in.

It's not repeat sets v tries.

It's repeat sets v 20 metre restarts.

Jesus fcuking Christ.

AngryPipe.

Jeebus, the son of the man in the sky, told me its all about scoring tries baby.

Repeat sets are for sukkas.

Yeah.

[Waylander]

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

Imghey

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I dont

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I cant

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

I want

A repeat set.

The 149th line not withstanding, me too !!