Repeat sets- what's the obsession?

[Guest]

I'd prefer we ran it on the last more often than we do. We have lethal strike weapons across the park in Jennings, SBW and RTS, with a 2nd tier or brilliant line runners in Maubs and Cordner. Toss in some hard hitting forwards like JWH, FPN, and Guerra and honestly we would be a great chance of going over if we chanced our arm more.

The additional benefit of such a strategy as well means even if we get stopped we'll simply be giving the ball over 1 or 2 metres out from the try line, instead of more often than not gifting them an easy 20m. Even if we wind up bundled into touch we still save 10m.

Can you imagine the carry on from some on here if Pearce ran it on the last?

[BallyChook]

I think Pearce did run it on the last against STI & set up Guerra's try. It does have merit to run on the last...keeps defence in 2 minds (do we come forward or go back to cover the kick) & it can be handover inside the 10-20 metre zone.

[ism22]

Its not that it wouldn't be nice to have, its that we clearly are not struggling without it.

Our boys are far fitter than just about every team in the comp, and are FAR more committed in defence than ANY other team in the comp. As such we don't suffer from the "repeat set = try scored" syndrome that most teams do.

Personally I can't stand the boring as possession game that so many teams try to play these days. Saints brought it into fashion in 2009, and now thankfully it is starting to die a slow death as teams who love earning repeat sets (saints, Dragons, Manly) begin to struggle and slip down the ladder.

Souths are probably the only team that earns plenty of repeat sets while still maintaining a good attacking game, but to be honest I'd love to see them try that on with our team these days. They caught us when we were still forming in round 1, by round 26 our defence is going to be near impregnable so if they think they'll just be able to roll it into the ingoal and rely on our defence to crack, they'll be in for a long night.

Exactly... Wayne's Dragons killed footy, same with the Storm!!

Watching the current Roosters then watching either of the above 2 teams play is like comparing curly haired pacific islanders throwing the ball around/playing ad-lib footy to British rugby.

I much prefer watching Maloney (a great clown), Jennings, SBW...etc playing over watching bloody a bloody Tin Soldier-led pack of drongos boring the opposition to death in order to achieve a victory.

Both teams learned how to slow down more free flowing teams. Once people crack their tactics used to get shonky penalties, repeat sets and regular minutes of game time wasted, they die.

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If I wanted to watch teams bore each other to death, I'd watch northern hemisphere rugby, they know all the tactics! Wrap the ball up, wrestle, draw a penalty then attempt a drop goal as soon as you're in range. 30-0 with no tries scored baby!!

[Bansai Pipeline]

Why is it a matter of one without the other?

We often kick short into the in-goal and it either goes dead, is caught on the full or is escorted back into play.

In those situations, we'd do better to get the repeat, mount more pressure and get the opposition to waste more petrol.

I don't see how anyone can argue that that's not a better result.

[davos]

Repeat sets are important depending on what type of game is being played and at what stage of the game you have the possession in the opposition's red zone.

If it's a tight game against two quality sides, then keeping possession and forcing their hand defensively can be massive for the momentum of the game, particularly in the 10 minutes of either side of half time.

[Guest]

Why is it a matter of one without the other?

We often kick short into the in-goal and it either goes dead, is caught on the full or is escorted back into play.

In those situations, we'd do better to get the repeat, mount more pressure and get the opposition to waste more petrol.

I don't see how anyone can argue that that's not a better result.

You're dead right Pipeman.

The repeat sets are for the hard games, the ones where the opposition are not so easy to crack.

The more time we have with the ball in hand the more chance we are of winning the game. The more the opposition have to defend the less potent they'll be in attack.

You can't score tries if you don't have any pill, and you can't win games if you don't score tries.

[Guest]

The difference is that in the semi's we'll find it much tougher if we aren't able to sustain pressure. I have no doubt in my mind that Trent will be addressing this in the coming months.

[Guest]

So, you'd prefer to kick it dead?

Because the suggestion that we score every time we're on the opposition line is preposterous.

We lack that dimension to our game. The grinding game. The blow torch. The make them tackle themselves stupid dimension.

If you don't think we need it, then that's probably the same part of your brain that didn't rate Maloney or SBW.

That's the only way we'll beat souffs.

You won't blow souffs away, not anymore. They can go toe to toe with anyone. We'll need to wear them out, then blow them away.

Chook.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

The best defences need to be put under constant pressure to get a result.

Equals.... repeat sets are a good thing.

Stats can lie.

[stsae]

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A repeat set.

[Chook Norris]

Anyone who dismisses the value of repeat sets is kidding themselves.

YES St George rank first in repeat sets, but their attack is absolutely DISMAL. So using the example of one club to dismiss the importance of repeat sets is confounding. You cannot simply use a sample size of one club to draw a correlation like that

However, the fact that the bunnies and the storm rank in the top 4 in repeat sets should be enough encouragement that we should look more towards them

[SConcierge]

Anyone who dismisses the value of repeat sets is kidding themselves.

YES St George rank first in repeat sets, but their attack is absolutely DISMAL. So using the example of one club to dismiss the importance of repeat sets is confounding. You cannot simply use a sample size of one club to draw a correlation like that

However, the fact that the bunnies and the storm rank in the top 4 in repeat sets should be enough encouragement that we should look more towards them

Nothing like wearing the opposition down if we could do it we would be blowing every team off the park

[Chook Norris]

Nothing like wearing the opposition down if we could do it we would be blowing every team off the park

exactly. Possession and field position is everything in Rugby League.

It's one thing to have great attack and great defence, but when great attack still doesn't produce a try after one set in the opp 20m what should a team do? If your answer is f**k the repeat sets, we should be all flash, show no patience and try to score off every play.. then that doesn't show much footy knowledge to me

We can't forever rely on magically procuring points on every set

As i said in other posts before, the Penrith game at the SFS (especially the first half) is a prime example of what happens due to impatience and trying to score off every set. Watch it again folks

[Guest]

You will notice that instead of rolling kicks into the in goal (which yes our halves do need to improve upon) when we get in the opposition 20 we put attacking kicks up for our two tall wingers with great success usually.

We also get SBW running the ball al or down there or Pearcy taking it to the line and popping short passes for Boyd and Mitch Aubo.

[Guest]

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A repeat set.

You do? But why? :/