Staggering stats on lopsided penalty counts

[stsae]

The irony is that Bondi was very working class.

I remember hearing Malcolm Turnbull's speech about how his family were below the poverty line growing up in Woollahra and attending Sydney Grammar (with a scholarship.)

Given the context he was poor and obviously a high achiever but I doubt many would associate Woolahra and Sydney Grammar with that. Funniest speech ever because out of context he sounded like a rich w@nka with NFI.

Anyone who grew up in Bondi in the 70s and 80s know what it was like is incomparable to what it's like now.

I feel a little ill when I return now to see the wankers who frequent the area.

People say the same about The Tweed, I'm one of the invaders.

[roosterproud]

yep the tweed was a great place but suddenly all the old people died and the young unemployable dudes moved in and took the quaint charm away. and everyone there writes backwards for some reason

[chook 56]

Anyone who grew up in Bondi in the 70s and 80s know what it was like is incomparable to what it's like now.

I feel a little ill when I return now to see the wankers who frequent the area.

People say the same about The Tweed, I'm one of the invaders.

Byron Bay is worse.
Was working class up until 1980's & then the yuppies moved in...forced land prices up so the working class couldn't afford to live there anymore.

[stsae]

Byron Bay is worse.
Was working class up until 1980's & then the yuppies moved in...forced land prices up so the working class couldn't afford to live there anymore.

Byron is Bondi mate, exactly. It's lost it's village feel.

The Tweed is on a smaller scale. But IMO this area needed some injection, fark me I remember holidays where you couldn't buy a coffee or a hamburger before lunch on a Sunday morning.

It's still pretty backwards, that's why I came.

But for the locals it's to scale.

[stsae]

yep the tweed was a great place but suddenly all the old people died and the young unemployable dudes moved in and took the quaint charm away. and everyone there writes backwards for some reason

The old farkers still live dude, they all moved to Banora.

Motorised scooter city I tells ya. Some are better than my car.

[bondi paul]

The irony is that Bondi was very working class.

I remember hearing Malcolm Turnbull's speech about how his family were below the poverty line growing up in Woollahra and attending Sydney Grammar (with a scholarship.)

Given the context he was poor and obviously a high achiever but I doubt many would associate Woolahra and Sydney Grammar with that. Funniest speech ever because out of context he sounded like a rich w@nka with NFI.

Yes ISM - the irony of it all. my dad was a victim of the depression and moved from Watsons Bay to Bondi was successful in business yet never forgot his working class background.
Since they extended the sewerage outlet Bondi changed.I had a lot of mates who grew up in Paddo/ Woolahra and they like most of my peers in Bondi no longer reside in either suburbs due to the obvious expense of properties

[Guest]

Hi friends,

It is quite clear to me that since the involvement of News LTD has grown stronger so to has the ill discipline of the Sydney Roosters. I have included the number of penalty counts our club has won, draw and lost for each season since 1991 as well as the differential between penalties awarded and penalties conceded for that year.

From 1991 to 1997 Eastern Suburbs won the penalty count more than they lost the penalty count for that season every year.

1991 - 11 won, 2 drawn, 9 lost, +6 differential
1992 - 15 won, 0 drawn, 7 lost, +30 differential
1993 - 16 won, 1 drawn, 5 lost, +44 differential
1994 - 12 won, 2 drawn, 8 lost, +5 differential
1995 - 13 won, 2 drawn, 7 lost, +16 differential
1996 - 14 won, 3 drawn, 7 lost, +53 differential
1997 - 11 won, 5 drawn, 9 lost, +7 differential

This brings us to the end of the NSWRL/ARL era and the merging with the break away Super League and the progressive involvement in to our game of News LTD.

In the NRL era which is currently in to its 16th season the Sydney Roosters have won the penalty count more times in a season than they have lost the penalty count 3 times; 2 of which happened in season 1998 and season 1999 with the 3rd happening in season 2004 and during a further 2 season our club has finished even in penalty counts won and lost which happened in season 2005 and season 2007. That leaves 11 seasons out of 16 seasons where our club has lost more penalty counts than they have won since the involvement of News LTD

1998 - 12 won, 6 drawn, 9 lost, +6 differential
1999 - 14 won, 5 drawn, 7 lost, +17 differential
2000 - 11 won, 4 drawn, 15 lost, -9 differential
2001 - 11 won, 3 drawn, 13 lost, -5 differential
2002 - 11 won, 4 drawn, 13 lost, +2 differential
2003 - 10 won, 1 drawn, 16 lost, -3 differential
2004 - 13 won, 5 drawn, 9 lost, +28 differential
2005 - 10 won, 4 drawn, 10 lost, -5 differential
2006 - 9 won, 3 drawn, 12 lost, -19 differential
2007 - 10 won, 4 drawn, 10 lost, even differential
2008 - 6 won, 3 drawn, 17 lost, -37 differential
2009 - 2 won, 3 drawn, 19 lost, -50 differential
2010 - 6 won, 2 drawn, 20 lost, -46 differential
2011 - 9 won, 1 drawn, 14 lost, -17 differential
2012 - 6 won, 5 drawn, 13 lost, -26 differential
2013 - 3 won, 1 drawn, 14 lost, -43 differential

For season 2013 the Sydney Roosters currently have a 19% win ratio in the penalty counts which makes our team currently only the second club to sit under 20% since the NRL's conception in 1998 and that other team was the season 2009 Sydney Roosters who only won 14% of their penalty counts for that season. It is also interesting to note that since season 2007 the Sydney Roosters have failed win 10 or more penalty counts in a single season. In season 2010 we played more games than any other team and only managed to win the penalty count 5 times.

We are the most penalized team in season 2013 (by a margin of 13 more penalties against than second place Wests Tigers) as we were in season 2010 and have been inside the top 4 most penalized teams in the last 6 season.

Another statistic that caught my eye is that in the same time period the Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks have the penalty count more times in a season than they have lost them 13 times since 1998. In season 2009 Cronulla and the Sydney Roosters finished equal last on the premiership table and were separated only by points-differential however Cronulla won 15 penalty counts, drew 2 and only lost 7 with a penalty differential of +22. The Sydney Roosters as I documented above finished with the worst penalty count win to loss ratio in the history of the NRL with a penalty differential of -50.

I do not understand how two equally poor teams - it must be reminded that the Sydney Roosters also defeated Cronulla on both occasions that season - can be separated so much in the penalty count.

You are free to draw your own conclusions but these statistics are remarkable given the playing and coaching staff turn over that has been quite high over the years. Perhaps the penalty statistics can be used against my observations as Canberra Raiders and Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs are teams that frequently were down at the bottom in receiving penalties for a season and often receiving much less than us.

[Spirit of 66]

And the amount of times we've lost a count by 5+?

Drumroll...

17 times!

So in conclusion we've won penalty counts by 4+ penalties a grand total of 4 times out of 143 games and we've lost the penalty count by 4+ penalties 29 times in the same time span.

Quite criminal.

CLICK... Make that 18 times.