6-year Penalty Analysis

[Guest]

Discipline has what exactly to do with not receiving penalties?

When you don't play the team that gives out the most penalties you will end up receiving less penalties...

[Guest]

Discipline has what exactly to do with not receiving penalties?

It has a lot to do with giving them away and the 'gap' that is the gist of the thread.

When you give away penalties your not going to have equal possession, meaning you have higher chance of giving them away (and not receiving them) than a team who has to tackle less. You're going to be tired from doing more defence. You're going to be frustrated and niggle more.

[Guest]

So basically you don't have an answer. I asked the same question the other day.. It is the question which continues not to get a logical or coherent response.

Hence I actually said SPECULATE. What's the most feasible 'speculation' you have heard?

[Tommy Smith]

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[Guest]

Who are the Sharks ****ing?

Sharks would have a pretty vocal home crowd don't they? What's the stats on the infamous 'home crowd penalty'? Because we know what our home crowd advantage is like with poor home crowd figures. ALL SPECULATION. How outrageous can we get? Lets give it a red hot go.

[Kingsgrove-Loiner]

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Awesome work mate, well done.

Makes me very nervous about a Roosters/Vermin GF though......

[Cockadoodledoo]

It has a lot to do with giving them away and the 'gap' that is the gist of the thread.

When you give away penalties your not going to have equal possession, meaning you have higher chance of giving them away (and not receiving them) than a team who has to tackle less. You're going to be tired from doing more defence. You're going to be frustrated and niggle more.

We lost the penalties 32-17 in the course of a 3 game stretch this season when we played the Dragons, Sharks and Knights. So you are saying we did this whilst we were tired and frustrated, probably even totally outplayed all over the park which left us having to resort to niggling. Somehow we managed despite this to win these games by a combined score 104-12.

[Kingsgrove-Loiner]

Mr. Walkout, Firstly didn't even look at the stats, have been aware of our glaring discipline issue for five years on and off the field. If you want me to speculate I'd say 90% of the results as our own fault (being ill disciplined, being unfit, being inexperienced, being poorly coached and tactics etc) and 5% poor officiating and 5% of 'that's the way the game goes'.

Why do you think it happens? Here I'll make it multi choice.
A) NRL want Souths to win this year, (Dragons 2010 etc )so they penalised us heavily each of those years based on who they want to win.
B) Martin Kennedy solely responsible.
C) Refs don't like Roosters because it's an affluent area LOL
D) Daily Telegraph, told the NRL, who told the refs not to let us win.
E) All of the above and because you take part in self appreciation/interference.

But yet, in 2 of the 6 years under review, we've given the comp a real shake.....so we can't have been unfit, poorly coached and inexperienced at least 30% of the time, can we?

Using your criteria, how the fark can you explain the Sharks stats?

[player 1]

It has a lot to do with giving them away and the 'gap' that is the gist of the thread.

When you give away penalties your not going to have equal possession, meaning you have higher chance of giving them away (and not receiving them) than a team who has to tackle less. You're going to be tired from doing more defence. You're going to be frustrated and niggle more.

You would think teams being beaten by us 40 or 50 nil would fall into that category too wouldn't you, Mr know it all? Except when they play Easts.

Nobody knows the explanation for these stats which clearly lie outside any normal distribution curve. I don't think there is any conspiracy. but I am convinced you have no idea what you're talking about and probably just thrive on receiving negative attention for your annoying, arrogant and flawed argument.

[stsae]

Tip sheets.

Years of headlines off the field.

Preconceived ideas we were/are ill disciplined.

Human nature to go after the perceived bad boys and give them very little in return.

Years of whinngeHeadBwaiffism.

And a bit of that old Eastern Suburbs Coqq envy.

That's my opinion.

[roostersrule2]

Tip sheets.

Years of headlines off the field.

Preconceived ideas we were/are ill disciplined.

Human nature to go after the perceived bad boys and give them very little in return.

Years of whinngeHeadBwaiffism.

And a bit of that old Eastern Suburbs Coqq envy.

That's my opinion.

Agreed.

[Tommy Smith]

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[Guest]

We lost the penalties 32-17 in the course of a 3 game stretch this season when we played the Dragons, Sharks and Knights. So you are saying we did this whilst we were tired and frustrated, probably even totally outplayed all over the park which left us having to resort to niggling. Somehow we managed despite this to win these games by a combined score 104-12.

A much better roster, much better attitude to defence, better fitness and good defensive systems got us a win.

On those 4 things how would you compare this years side to those of the previous years? There's your answer.

[Andrew Walker]

Mr. Walkout, Firstly didn't even look at the stats, have been aware of our glaring discipline issue for five years on and off the field. If you want me to speculate I'd say 90% of the results as our own fault (being ill disciplined, being unfit, being inexperienced, being poorly coached and tactics etc) and 5% poor officiating and 5% of 'that's the way the game goes'.

Why do you think it happens? Here I'll make it multi choice.
A) NRL want Souths to win this year, (Dragons 2010 etc )so they penalised us heavily each of those years based on who they want to win.
B) Martin Kennedy solely responsible.
C) Refs don't like Roosters because it's an affluent area LOL
D) Daily Telegraph, told the NRL, who told the refs not to let us win.
E) All of the above and because you take part in self appreciation/interference.

You ahve not answered at all But tried very poorly to be a smart arse When you could not come up with a logical answer to all questions posed

[Guest]

But yet, in 2 of the 6 years under review, we've given the comp a real shake.....so we can't have been unfit, poorly coached and inexperienced at least 30% of the time, can we?

Using your criteria, how the fark can you explain the Sharks stats?

The penalties didn't stop us in 2010 achieving good results and they're not stopping us this year. The other four years we were that bad. So what's the difference in results over the six years. Rosters and players performing.