must be concerns over the preparation for saturdays night match

[bondi-boy]

In your opinion we always have no chance.

I can understand being realistic but you're such a pessimist, we're the minor premiers, the best team in the comp. We could bring our B game and still scrape through, they have to be at their best for the full 80 to win, if not they'll be crunched.

Not so, I always say we can win, if we play our best footy.
If we bring our B game we'll get beaten....as the Storm did.
Our attack against Manly was hopeless...a bumbling, stumbling mess....except for the great kick, and magical try by RTS.
Wolfman ran past Tupou on the outside at least 3 times.

You are severely underestimating the momentum and self-belief of the Bennett coached Knights.

[bondi-boy]

That Sonny Bill Williams caught smoking cannabis thread should be deleted.

It's insulting to him, could play on his mind and cause us trouble.

[The Rooster Oracle]

Going back to 2000 we have made 5 GFs and are a game away from a 6th.

Has there been any other club in that period that have enjoyed that much success???

If there is a conspiracy against us, it's a shit one that's failed miserably.

Thems the facts Shandy.

Looking at the stats Stsae, I'm pretty sure the crap started back in 2005.

The penalties stats for us are bad enough as they are, but they don't factor in the timing of the penalties. For example when Geoff Toovey blew up after his team were robbed against $ouff$, one of the things he spoke of was the square up penalties towards the end of games. Which he refers to, where once the result of the game has been decided, the ref will award some penalties to the team with majority of penalties against them to make it look not as bad on the stats sheet at the end of the game.

Roy Masters spoke of exactly the same thing in one of his recent articles. $ouff$ this year have benefited hugely from this!!

John Cartwright spoke of how his team were ripped off from making the semi finals, but no one bats an eyelid over it. But if it were $ouff$ there would be major headlines and inquiries into it! It was great to see Carty have a crack at $ouff$, along with Neil Henry, Toovey, Thurston, Masters etc etc!!

It goes to show just how bloody good our team is when we can overcome all the crap that happens against us like 12 - 5 penalty counts, bull$hit by the judiciary and bull$hit match scheduling!! Now they have to resort to the drugs bull$hit to try and f**k us over that way!! It is just that we have been that good this year and certainly not through lack of trying to stop us!!

[Vasco]

Business as usual???

When has our club ever been out of the spotlight???

This is just another headline, to sell more papers, on another day in the life as an Easts Man.

The players will be doing their thang. I doubt they will even care that the medias just discovered months after the fact.

In fact I bet they were informed and primed for something like this at this exact time.

Players and coaches aren't fanboys remember.

Exactly.


Fark the media.


Fark the morons.


Fark Alan Jones.


Fark Peter Fitzsimons.


Fark Graeme Hughes.


Fark Souffs.


Fark Russell Crowe.


Fark the NRL.


Fark Wayne Bennett.


Fark the penalties.


Fark all of them.


Easts to win.

[roostersrule2]

Not so, I always say we can win, if we play our best footy.
If we bring our B game we'll get beaten....as the Storm did.
Our attack against Manly was hopeless...a bumbling, stumbling mess....except for the great kick, and magical try by RTS.
Wolfman ran past Tupou on the outside at least 3 times.

You are severely underestimating the momentum and self-belief of the Bennett coached Knights.

Melbourne brought their B game and lost by 2 points. A penalty goal which they should have received after Slater was taken out would have tied it up and I'd back Cronk over Mullen and injured halfback in golden point.

Our attack was a mess because we were so tired from defence even SBW said it, we wont get into that position because Manly are the only team who can grind like that. I think Robbo just wanted Tupou standing in more to limit Lyon's options, so the only thing he could do is pass to the Wolfman and Maloney, Jennings etc. knew this and that's why he was cleaned up and no points were scored.

I may be underestimating the Knights but if they bring their A game and we bring ours, there's only one winner.

[The Rooster Oracle]

Exactly.

Well said mate.

No conspiracy. It's more blatant than that IMO.

What we see is human nature.

The old jail adage, treat them like animals and that's how they will act.

We have been perceived, going back to SL really, as the baddies, on and off the field.

The media use us to sell papers, and they know humans need a baddie, and guess what that's Easts.

I say we embrace the hate, WoManly style.

I hope the club is really getting the players to see what is happening, what outside influences are up to and use it as motivation to stick it up all their ARSES.

Just win baby.

EASTS.

To me the refs tip sheet thing is a bit of a cop out. You can't say that we are suffering this year as a result of what bwaiff, mason, o'meley, Fitzy, Myles, Paea, Perrett, Sa, Soliola, Roberts etc etc did years ago?

Our squad has changed dramatically over the years along with five different changes of coach!

With everything that has happened against us over the years and especially this year, 'something' is going on, 'something' is not right!!

The bold part that you wrote, I could not agree anymore with mate!!

Go the Roosters!!

[stsae]

To me the refs tip sheet thing is a bit of a cop out. You can't say that we are suffering this year as a result of what bwaiff, mason, o'meley, Fitzy, Myles, Paea, Perrett, Sa, Soliola, Roberts etc etc did years ago?

Our squad has changed dramatically over the years along with five different changes of coach!

With everything that has happened against us over the years and especially this year, 'something' is going on, 'something' is not right!!

The bold part that you wrote, I could not agree anymore with mate!!

Go the Roosters!!

Different Reffs, different Reffs coaches, different officials at the NRL, different owners of the game.

Same conspiracy???

Mate it's perception. Tip sheets exist that's been confirmed, it's a fact.

But this goes deeper. Reffs are human. They read the papers, they lived thru SL, they see the way we are caned in the media.

They are already prejudiced, before they even see a tip sheet.

I have seen ZERO evidence of conspiracy. Not ONE person has flipped since 2000 2005 2007 wherever you want to take the date from.

Surely with all the changes in personnel at The NRL someone would've??? Something???

As I've said on many occasions we can as a club try to change perceptions by working with Reffs and the media.

Or better still, FARK EM ALL.

Just Win Baby.

EASTS.

[stsae]

Exactly.


Fark the media.


Fark the morons.


Fark Alan Jones.


Fark Peter Fitzsimons.


Fark Graeme Hughes.


Fark Souffs.


Fark Russell Crowe.


Fark the NRL.


Fark Wayne Bennett.


Fark the penalties.


Fark all of them.


Easts to win.

This.

EASTS.

[chook 56]

This.

EASTS.

Add......

Fark The Pen






anything else?

FTW!



There, that covers it.

[stsae]

Add......

Fark The Pen






anything else?

FTW!



There, that covers it.

The Pen is mightier than the Keyboard???

[Muffdaddy]

The Pen is mightier than the Keyboard???

This.....

[Guest]

Business as usual???

When has our club ever been out of the spotlight???

This is just another headline, to sell more papers, on another day in the life as an Easts Man.

The players will be doing their thang. I doubt they will even care that the medias just discovered months after the fact.

In fact I bet they were informed and primed for something like this at this exact time.

Players and coaches aren't fanboys remember.

Exactly.


Fark the media.


Fark the morons.


Fark Alan Jones.


Fark Peter Fitzsimons.


Fark Graeme Hughes.


Fark Souffs.


Fark Russell Crowe.


Fark the NRL.


Fark Wayne Bennett.


Fark the penalties.


Fark all of them.


Easts to win.

My front runner for post of the year.

Get angry you carrnts!

EASTS TO WIN!

[The Rooster Oracle]

Different Reffs, different Reffs coaches, different officials at the NRL, different owners of the game.

Same conspiracy???

Mate it's perception. Tip sheets exist that's been confirmed, it's a fact.

But this goes deeper. Reffs are human. They read the papers, they lived thru SL, they see the way we are caned in the media.

They are already prejudiced, before they even see a tip sheet.

I have seen ZERO evidence of conspiracy. Not ONE person has flipped since 2000 2005 2007 wherever you want to take the date from.

Surely with all the changes in personnel at The NRL someone would've??? Something???

As I've said on many occasions we can as a club try to change perceptions by working with Reffs and the media.

Or better still, FARK EM ALL.

Just Win Baby.

EASTS.

That's the thing Stsae, with so many things changing like different players, coaches, refs, ref bosses etc, then why the hell is the same crap happening?? I really don't get it!
You don't believe in a conspiracy, but you have to admit that 'something' is not right, 'something' is going on! For me there is just too much going on for it all to be something innocent, just some coincidence!

I know that tip sheets exist, Freddy had seen them back in his day, but what gets me is that on these tip sheets for the refs, it was all tips on how you can penalize us. There would be nothing mentioning the opposition we are playing. How is this fair? how is this not bias against us? It just seems to be influencing the refs on how to do their job and not go into the game with an open mind. The refs are being given orders on how to f**k us!!

Do you really expect someone to come out and squeal on what is going on? What generally happens to squealers? It is not going to be pleasant! They would fear for their lives and their families lives! Mate, the packers and murdochs have been able to get away with murder for many many years! Plus why would you squeal when you have been nicely compensated and will only implicate yourself in illegal activities, thus getting yourself into trouble.

I agree wholeheartedly with your philosophy of fark em all, Just Win Baby!!

[The Rooster Oracle]

My front runner for post of the year.

Get angry you carrnts!

EASTS TO WIN!

It is up there for me as well. I would have liked Vasco to have added a special mention of fark phil rothguts though!

[stsae]

That's the thing Stsae, with so many things changing like different players, coaches, refs, ref bosses etc, then why the hell is the same crap happening?? I really don't get it!
You don't believe in a conspiracy, but you have to admit that 'something' is not right, 'something' is going on! For me there is just too much going on for it all to be something innocent, just some coincidence!

I know that tip sheets exist, Freddy had seen them back in his day, but what gets me is that on these tip sheets for the refs, it was all tips on how you can penalize us. There would be nothing mentioning the opposition we are playing. How is this fair? how is this not bias against us? It just seems to be influencing the refs on how to do their job and not go into the game with an open mind. The refs are being given orders on how to f**k us!!

Do you really expect someone to come out and squeal on what is going on? What generally happens to squealers? It is not going to be pleasant! They would fear for their lives and their families lives! Mate, the packers and murdochs have been able to get away with murder for many many years! Plus why would you squeal when you have been nicely compensated and will only implicate yourself in illegal activities, thus getting yourself into trouble.

I agree wholeheartedly with your philosophy of fark em all, Just Win Baby!!

Wouldn't it be harder thru all the changes in the Reffs ranks and the NRL to keep such a conspiracy quiet??? Someone must've leaked something to the media by now??? Roy Masters or his broth would die for a story like that. As would anyone at the SMH.

Not a sniff.

Of course something isn't right mate, it's not innocent I'm not saying that, I'm just saying its human nature to have preconceived ideas about everything. We all do it often.

I can't see the conspiracy. And as I said IF it is a conspiracy it's not a very well organised one. 5 GFs, 2 MPs, 1 ring and a shot at another GF this weekend all since 2000. I can't see how people have conspired to see us lose, it doesn't make any sense.

What I do know is tip sheets have and are being used by the Reffs, the same Reffs who see our club EVERY season dragged thru the media, be it fairly or unfairly. Look when we buy a player, we "poach". Look when we release a player, we "sack". Look when we have a few blokes get rowdy on the piss, we "riot".

Sure it isn't fair but it's out of our control as to what we can do to rectify the situation. We can't change perceptions. In fact trying makes us look either like whingers or nutters.

The ONLY way forward is what the players have done this season, fight the carnts.

Just Win Baby.

EASTS.