SKD should stay

[Guest]

Well that's the only exposed form we have.

I don't think Smith was to blame for what we saw.

Time will tell with Moga but I reckon he is a fair way off at this stage.

Yeah true mate but if we got footage of our defence from last year there would be plenty of players who would look terrible.

I'm a big fan of Moga he killed them in the 20's and at Newtown. I thought his attack in first grade was very classy too but like you said really struggled in defence. I'm very confident that Robbo will sort him out though.

My worries are that knee and this nagging thought that Brisbane will target him to replace Hodges. They seem to be very keen on "buying back the farm".

[rwbfl]

Yeah true mate but if we got footage of our defence from last year there would be plenty of players who would look terrible.

I'm a big fan of Moga he killed them in the 20's and at Newtown. I thought his attack in first grade was very classy too but like you said really struggled in defence. I'm very confident that Robbo will sort him out though.

My worries are that knee and this nagging thought that Brisbane will target him to replace Hodges. They seem to be very keen on "buying back the farm".

The Brisbane thing is definitely a real worry, but he has been at the roosters since he was 16 and if Trent wants him then I'm sure they will figure something out.

I know it's Toyota cup but I remember a game he run 80m in the first set and beat half the other team to score a try when he was still playing SG ball. Even last year when he was still 19 he made grown men look like 10 year olds at some stages. And yes I have total confidence that Trent and fitzy will sort out any defensive isues

[kurtsherlock6]

Nah fair enough.

Like you said everyone is entitled to their opinion. To be honest we should all still be celebrating for months to come, I know I will.

Again i agree. This is becoming a litttle scary.

[BUDDY]

If he was on half his salary I would say to keep him for depth. It also makes it easier to get him to find form in Newtown.

He hardly had any effect in attack this year. Most of our big plays have been on the Jennings/Toups side and for good reason. A combination with two of Fergo/Moga/Macdonald/Reuben gives us a far more potent attack.

SKD just doesn't give us any value at $350K.

[Guest]

If he was on half his salary I would say to keep him for depth. It also makes it easier to get him to find form in Newtown.

He hardly had any effect in attack this year. Most of our big plays have been on the Jennings/Toups side and for good reason. A combination with two of Fergo/Moga/Macdonald/Reuben gives us a far more potent attack.

SKD just doesn't give us any value at $350K.

thats what im thinking as well. wouldnt mind seeing us swap SKD and wighton. Wighton is a young player who plays all the way across the backline including 6 and while talented, wouldnt take up as much cap space which would help our cause keeping on the likes of LOD for another year

[Vasco]

Yeah true mate but if we got footage of our defence from last year there would be plenty of players who would look terrible.

I'm a big fan of Moga he killed them in the 20's and at Newtown. I thought his attack in first grade was very classy too but like you said really struggled in defence. I'm very confident that Robbo will sort him out though.

My worries are that knee and this nagging thought that Brisbane will target him to replace Hodges. They seem to be very keen on "buying back the farm".

Fair point.

If he has a big season for Newtown then I'm sure we will hold on to him.

[Kingsgrove-Loiner]

If he was on half his salary I would say to keep him for depth. It also makes it easier to get him to find form in Newtown.

He hardly had any effect in attack this year. Most of our big plays have been on the Jennings/Toups side and for good reason. A combination with two of Fergo/Moga/Macdonald/Reuben gives us a far more potent attack.
SKD just doesn't give us any value at $350K.

Guesswork at it's finest.

None of those 4 blokes have played together, and yet you're tipping 2 of them to be our right side combination next year?

One bloke is currently out of the game altogether, one has been injured for 12 months, and the other 2 are Holden Cup players. Big call.

[BUDDY]

Guesswork at it's finest.

None of those 4 blokes have played together, and yet you're tipping 2 of them to be our right side combination next year?

One bloke is currently out of the game altogether, one has been injured for 12 months, and the other 2 are Holden Cup players. Big call.

Jennings and Toups never played together either.
One was on the nose at his old club and wasn't putting in. The other was unwanted at an Eels NYC team and was ready to give the game away,

Fergo is much more diamonds that SKD. SKD wouldn't tie his shoelaces on the footy field.
Moga can be anything.
Macdonald reminds me of Toups the way he runs the ball but I think he can be even better. He seems much more evasive. Also tall and can catch a ball.
Reuben is a speedy hard running mofo.

[dj_sta]

thats what im thinking as well. wouldnt mind seeing us swap SKD and wighton. Wighton is a young player who plays all the way across the backline including 6 and while talented, wouldnt take up as much cap space which would help our cause keeping on the likes of LOD for another year

There's always that one guy who brings in a complete random player into the calculation.

2 issues:

1. The most obvious - no way in hell will Canberra let Wighton go for SKD. It would take RTS to swap Wighton.
2. We are only talking about swapping SKD coz of Fergo's availability.

[Guest]

SKD to Canberra.
Ferguson at right centre, with Reuben outside him.
I don't care if it's next year or 2015; or even when SKD's contract expires.
SKD wouldn't tie Ferguson's boot laces.

[Kingsgrove-Loiner]

Jennings and Toups never played together either.
One was on the nose at his old club and wasn't putting in. The other was unwanted at an Eels NYC team and was ready to give the game away,

Fergo is much more diamonds that SKD. SKD wouldn't tie his shoelaces on the footy field.
Moga can be anything.
Macdonald reminds me of Toups the way he runs the ball but I think he can be even better. He seems much more evasive. Also tall and can catch a ball.
Reuben is a speedy hard running mofo.

Ferguson has had one very good year in 5. Very similar to SKD. He also has plenty of mistakes in him, similar to SKD.

How you can say Skid wouldn't tie his shoelaces on the field is staggering. Let's see how he goes next year when he isn't getting needled up every week.

One major difference is that SKD just goes about his work quietly, while the other one isn't happy unless he's acting like a bell end and putting all his team mates offside. That's when he's not attending court, feigning injury or being sacked.

[Kingsgrove-Loiner]

SKD to Canberra.
Ferguson at right centre, with Reuben outside him.
I don't care if it's next year or 2015; or even when SKD's contract expires.
SKD wouldn't tie Ferguson's boot laces.

Staggering. Did anyone ever watch Ferguson prior to this year? Most of the time, he was absolutely pants.

[The Rooster Oracle]

I feel like most of the people on here in favor of SKD are either letting their emotions cloud their judgment due to SKD playing on in the GF with a broken jaw and or have a bad memory of all the poor football SKD has played over the past 3 seasons since his 1 and only good season in 2010.

I don't want to take anything away from SKD's amazing achievement in that GF, it was truly heroic!! I can fully understand people getting wrapped up in his effort. I will be forever grateful to SKD's commitment and bravery towards his team mates, the fans and our great club for his effort to play on through all that pain in the GF!!

But the thing is what it all boils down to is that Fergo is the better player. You always need to look at strengthening your squad, my loyalty is to the team and what is best for the team, and imo because Fergo is by far the more talented better player, I am able to be willing to let an individual go for the sake of what is best for the team moving forward. Fergo will help us tremendously with going back to back!

From the oppositions' point of view, when you look at how to beat us, where our main weakness is, they all point towards going down SKD's side of the field and attacking his channel in defense. They all see SKD as our weakest link in the chain. He has leaked so many tries over the past 3 seasons and it really isn't good enough, especially considering he has not been setting the world on fire in attack ever since 2010 either!

In attack SKD has been honest with taking up some tough hit ups. But his main job is to be making line breaks, creating and scoring tries. He has been sorely lacking in this department for too long. This year in such a great side he has had no excuses, and yet he has still struggled. He is far to easy to contain and doesn't pose hardly any threat, even with fantastic play makers inside him and a brilliant finisher outside of him. It isn't good enough!

Then there are all his constant mistakes that he has made over the past 3 seasons. He is just so bloody frustrating at times! I know some on here are just used to it and find it common place, acceptable and even humorous. I find nothing funny about it at all! It is not something that we should be having to put up with!

I am shocked by you Ray, how many times over the past 3 seasons have you called SKD rubbish and now you come out in his defense? I implore you Ray to not forget all that rubbish!

Fergo has played in a $hithouse team this year with plenty of turmoil going on at the raiders this year. Furner has showed to not be a very good coach, so this has not helped Fergo's cause at all this year. Even with all the crap going on at the raiders, Fergo was able to stand out in some games this year and was good enough to earn selection in the first two origin games, mainly off of his own bat with little help from his raiders team mates and coaching staff.

We now know that SBW won't be with us in 2015, so we need to start planning for that now! We all saw how much our club struggled big time when Freddy retired due to poor planning. We can't afford to allow that to happen a second time when SBW leaves us! SBW is going to leave a 'massive' hole to fill! We are going to need some major fire power to replace what SBW provides us with! Fergo is a major attacking weapon, he provides that X factor and his signing will go a way towards filling that massive hole that SBW will leave. Imo to completely fill that massive hole I would also sign to go along with Fergo, Jason Taumalolo for 2015.

We need to Trust In Trent's Strategies! If Robbo wants Fergo than we should all get behind him and back his judgment! Trust in our current environment, the culture that Robbo has created. In our environment I can see Fergo really thriving!! We no longer have some flakey culture like we had back under Chris Anderson, Freddy or Smiffy, where one player can run amuck and stuff everything. Times have changed big time for us!

It would absolutely kill me to see Fergo ripping it up at $ouff$ or the bull$cumdog$hit, especially if it was with the knowledge that we could have had him! Mark my words, if Fergo plays for us, $ouff$ or bull$cumdog$hit he will go on to play for NSW again in origin and play for Australia!! Just look at all the resistance some people put up on here to try and prevent the signings of SBW, Jennings and LOD. I believe that they all turned out alright!!

[BUDDY]

Ferguson has had one very good year in 5. Very similar to SKD. He also has plenty of mistakes in him, similar to SKD.

How you can say Skid wouldn't tie his shoelaces on the field is staggering. Let's see how he goes next year when he isn't getting needled up every week.

One major difference is that SKD just goes about his work quietly, while the other one isn't happy unless he's acting like a bell end and putting all his team mates offside. That's when he's not attending court, feigning injury or being sacked.

Fergo is at the peak of his game. The games he played this year were by far better than what SKD has produced and he was consistent. Canberra had very little once he stopped playing.
SKD was at his peak in 2010 thanks to Carney but I wouldn't even call it peak; more like an aberation. He did nothing all year in attack and he improved his defense in the last month although there were two tries down his side on the GF. Not putting sole blame on him. He will not improve. He provides no value for his $350K.

If we have potent attacks on both sides, we are close to unstoppable. Teams won't know where to look.
We need to see where we can improve the team and that right side is the obvious field position. It has been since the days of SKD and Pez. I don't care if it is Fergo or another quality centre.

Why haven't we signed our legendary captain yet? Because we won't and the team will improve. Plenty signed a petition to save our previous captain and look what happened in the couple of years after that. Plenty were p!ssed off when Fitzy was not re-signed. Players move on for the betterment of the team. All teams look to where they can improve, even premiers.

[The Brain]

Fergo is at the peak of his game. The games he played this year were by far better than what SKD has produced and he was consistent. Canberra had very little once he stopped playing.
SKD was at his peak in 2010 thanks to Carney but I wouldn't even call it peak; more like an aberation. He did nothing all year in attack and he improved his defense in the last month although there were two tries down his side on the GF. Not putting sole blame on him. He will not improve. He provides no value for his $350K.

If we have potent attacks on both sides, we are close to unstoppable. Teams won't know where to look.
We need to see where we can improve the team and that right side is the obvious field position. It has been since the days of SKD and Pez. I don't care if it is Fergo or another quality centre.

Why haven't we signed our legendary captain yet? Because we won't and the team will improve. Plenty signed a petition to save our previous captain and look what happened in the couple of years after that. Plenty were p!ssed off when Fitzy was not re-signed. Players move on for the betterment of the team. All teams look to where they can improve, even premiers.

lol Sam Perret lovers- capable thats about it.
SKD kills me