Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

SKD should stay

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Originally posted by roostersrule2 View Post
    So us having the best attack means we should purely focus on having a fullback that breaks the line? Even when we have enough players that can do the job better.
    Do you also think FPN doesn't need to make metres in attack because JWH & Moa are far better at taking hitups? It's a ridiculous premise. Of course our fullback is expected to be a threat in attack... it's about as fundamental to their role as a postman delivering mail to the right address.

    Originally posted by roostersrule2 View Post
    Since when did we rate players on linebreaks anyway?
    Since when don't we rate fullbacks on their ability to break the line? Mini won the golden boot on the back of his amazingly consistent ability to break the line when nothing was on. Unless you want to argue he's more of a ball playing fullback than a ball runner why shouldn't his performance in attack be measured by how often he broke the line?

    Comment


    • Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
      Do you also think FPN doesn't need to make metres in attack because JWH & Moa are far better at taking hitups? It's a ridiculous premise. Of course our fullback is expected to be a threat in attack... it's about as fundamental to their role as a postman delivering mail to the right address.
      Our fullback is a threat in attack, when someone makes a linebreak he's there in support to either score the try or deliver the final pass and if like you say he's not a threat how did we win the premiership? I'm pretty sure the postman delivered.



      Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
      Since when don't we rate fullbacks on their ability to break the line? Mini won the golden boot on the back of his amazingly consistent ability to break the line when nothing was on. Unless you want to argue he's more of a ball playing fullback than a ball runner why shouldn't his performance in attack be measured by how often he broke the line?
      Because he's older, he plays a more safe game that requires him to back up linebreaks and be there for offloads etc. he also gets involved a lot in the ball playing side of things.

      Comment


      • Originally posted by SConcierge View Post
        Thats true he has a different game and role these days and some people struggle to see that, he executed his role perfectly this yr
        A one dimensional role I think you'd agree?

        My point is there's very few teams in fact I don't think there's another out there who could win a premiership with a defensive fullback in the modern day game. SBW's ability to offer the team as much creativity from the forward pack as any spine player in the competition is what subsidised Mini's attacking role in the team and ultimately won us the premiership.

        I was wrong when I said SBW couldn't provide the creativity the side needed to win a premiership from the second row.
        I still don't think I was wrong when I said Mini isn't even the best fullback at the club, even though he was adequate for the role required.

        Post-SBW we will need a creative fullback like every other good modern day football side.

        Comment


        • Originally posted by roostersrule2 View Post
          he also gets involved a lot in the ball playing side of things.

          Comment


          • Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
            Hmm yes, I remember the wind throwing that final ball to SKD.

            Comment


            • Originally posted by roostersrule2 View Post
              Hmm yes, I remember the wind throwing that final ball to SKD.
              The irony of it all being that he actually butchered that play by crowding his ball player and running in front of the ball carrier. Just luckily for us it wasn't spotted by the officials.

              It was a nice pass, but one Hail Mary doesn't make you a ball player. I actually don't know whether to laugh or cry right now because I'm sure you actually believe he's a genuine ball player.

              Comment


              • Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
                The irony of it all being that he actually butchered that play by crowding his ball player and running in front of the ball carrier. Just luckily for us it wasn't spotted by the officials.

                It was a nice pass, but one Hail Mary doesn't make you a ball player. I actually don't know whether to laugh or cry right now because I'm sure you actually believe he's a genuine ball player.
                When did I say I think he's a genuine ball player? I said he gets involved in it.

                Also it was Maloney who almost butchered the play by sprinting and not looking for support to then almost coming to a full halt to look for support.

                Mini puts in a decent ball or two every couple of games, but I never said his ball playing was his strongest area or even an area he excels at.

                Comment


                • Originally posted by roostersrule2 View Post
                  When did I say I think he's a genuine ball player? I said he gets involved in it.

                  Also it was Maloney who almost butchered the play by sprinting and not looking for support to then almost coming to a full halt to look for support.

                  Mini puts in a decent ball or two every couple of games, but I never said his ball playing was his strongest area or even an area he excels at.
                  You didn't say you think he's a genuine ball player, but you were listing his strengths in attack and insinuated as much when you said he gets involved a lot with the ball playing (which is also incorrect because he really doesn't), if you don't believe it to be true why even bring up his ball playing in the first place?

                  And lol @ putting blame on Maloney, Mini over ran the play plain and simple. NEVER run past your ball player, it's the cardinal sin of support and wing play.

                  Comment


                  • Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
                    The irony of it all being that he actually butchered that play by crowding his ball player and running in front of the ball carrier. Just luckily for us it wasn't spotted by the officials.

                    It was a nice pass, but one Hail Mary doesn't make you a ball player. I actually don't know whether to laugh or cry right now because I'm sure you actually believe he's a genuine ball player.
                    Does your poo stink? Get off your high horse you know it all. Maloney should have passed it a tad earlier. If he had passed it when he should have Mini would not have over run him. Great ball by Mini by the way. Luckily for him the ball had a tracking device and hit SKD on the fly. Pfft!

                    Comment


                    • Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
                      You didn't say you think he's a genuine ball player, but you were listing his strengths in attack and insinuated as much when you said he gets involved a lot with the ball playing (which is also incorrect because he really doesn't), if you don't believe it to be true why even bring up his ball playing in the first place?

                      And lol @ putting blame on Maloney, Mini over ran the play plain and simple. NEVER run past your ball player, it's the cardinal sin of support and wing play.
                      Maloney butchered that play not mini he dramatically changed his speed and passed too late even the comentators said it
                      " A man can only walk as far as he can see"

                      Comment


                      • Fergo over SKD all day.

                        Comment


                        • Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
                          I still stand by my claim that Mini is one of the worst fullbacks in the comp and isn't even the best fullback at our club.

                          I was proven wrong by SBW because I was adamant that a second rower could not subsidise the lack of creativity in our spine. And how wrong I was.
                          You need a brain transplant
                          When you trust your television
                          what you get is what you got
                          Cause when they own the information
                          they can bend it all they want

                          John Mayer

                          Comment


                          • Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post

                            I just think some people struggle to see him for the player he really is these days.
                            A premiership winning Captain
                            When you trust your television
                            what you get is what you got
                            Cause when they own the information
                            they can bend it all they want

                            John Mayer

                            Comment


                            • Interested to hear if all the Mini fans believe we should re-sign him for one more year considering a few things:

                              1/ He wants to play on and feels he is still up to NRL. He won't get any worse and will basically play the same role as this year.
                              2/ We can't take advantage of the long service allowance he provided this year because others are now eligible.
                              3/ Given RTS could get a full pre-season at fullback and has had some exposure in the position when Mini was injured, he can give us another dimension in attack.

                              BTW SKD should go but I digress.

                              Comment


                              • Originally posted by BUDDY View Post
                                Interested to hear if all the Mini fans believe we should re-sign him for one more year considering a few things:

                                1/ He wants to play on and feels he is still up to NRL. He won't get any worse and will basically play the same role as this year.
                                2/ We can't take advantage of the long service allowance he provided this year because others are now eligible.
                                3/ Given RTS could get a full pre-season at fullback and has had some exposure in the position when Mini was injured, he can give us another dimension in attack.

                                BTW SKD should go but I digress.
                                I would sign Mini for another year. He played well this year, led the team well, his body held up and his form was fantastic. Why wouldn't you?

                                I would have him on the wing as per Brett Mullins in 2002, with RTS at fullback. Mini has acknowledged that this may be the case in a past interview.

                                We are thin on the ground for outside backs. We were very lucky with injuries this year - only losing Moga for any real length of time. Even so, there were times when we had to play Guerra in the backs. With Mini in the team, you have Mini, RTS, Jennings, SKD, Moga and Tupou all ready to play first grade. Let one of them go, and we will have no backup at all. Given Moga is yet to prove his form in first grade (and yet to prove his body can hold up), if we let Mini go, we would have to go and find another outside back as cover. Doesn't make sense.

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X