R6's RLWC2013 Rooster Reviews

[Rooster_6]

I digress, was Baloney grubber into the in goal in the gf a try assist??
It was Jennings who turned that into a try scoring oppurtunity not Maloney

That's a bit of a grey area, I've always been of the belief kicks from tries and ball playing should be separate statistics but that's an argument for another time.

Maloney saw the space and had the intention of kicking for Jennings like we saw on a number of times this season but it was just poorly executed from Maloney. At least the intention to create the opportunity was still there though. Mini's intention was just to give the ball to Guerra as soon as possible and see if he could create something himself, that's where they differ for mine.

[davos]

Guerra looks handy in the centres.

he doesn't have the pace. He's a backrower.

[Rooster_6]

How pathetic was it when the commentator didn't know what a forward pass was. "We'll have to agree to disagree" he said. I think the rest of the team agreed he was a retard.

How does that bloke get a job commentating rugby league?!!

Haha yeh, I think it was the sideline commentator who just had absolutely no idea. One of them started to explain it correctly but then just gave up halfway, there was also the strip that they had absolutely no idea about where a tackler had fallen off earlier still making it a 2 man tackle.

I actually thought the pass was flat too.

[roostersrule2]

he doesn't have the pace. He's a backrower.

He's decently quick, but I'd rather have a fast backrower then a slow centre.

[Andrew Walker]

That's a bit of a grey area, I've always been of the belief kicks from tries and ball playing should be separate statistics but that's an argument for another time.

Maloney saw the space and had the intention of kicking for Jennings like we saw on a number of times this season but it was just poorly executed from Maloney. At least the intention to create the opportunity was still there though. Mini's intention was just to give the ball to Guerra as soon as possible and see if he could create something himself, that's where they differ for mine.

Absolute rubbish Both times Minichiello gave the ball to Guerra knowing there was a bit of space for Guerra to work with

As for the kick by Maloney being poorly executed if it wasnt such a poorly executed kick Your words not mine Then either Stewart or Williams would have played at the ball more than likely resulting in a drop out for us

It was what you consider the poor execution of that kick That led to this try as both Stewart and Williams were both willing it to roll dead Which enabled Jennings to swoop and score

[Yak]

Haha yeh, I think it was the sideline commentator who just had absolutely no idea. One of them started to explain it correctly but then just gave up halfway, there was also the strip that they had absolutely no idea about where a tackler had fallen off earlier still making it a 2 man tackle.

I actually thought the pass was flat too.

It was the sideline commentator that actually knew what he was talking about. He went to explain it to the old codger in the box but seemed like he couldn't think of the terms momentum or inertia so he gave up and the old idiot in the box was left uncorrected as so often happens with Rabs haha

And yeah the pass was flat at worst, i think it left the hands backwards.

Also, gotta disagree a little on the mini try assist discussion. I thought for Guerra's first try Mini did contribute to creating the try. If you take the ball from dummy half to the short side close to the line i think your intention is to create a try. He does shorten the line a little bit by showing for split second and then the ball he delivered was actually a decent out-ball. The pass gets Guerra on the outside of his man. Guerra was good enough to take advantage and score but i dare say if Mini doesnt put the ball outside the centre Guerra would not have broken the initial tackle. Thought Mini was unlucky not to have 2 tries actually. There was that Mantellato ball to him that they called forward and in the second half Mini gets early ball to Guerra who ran downfield, drew the fullback and took the tackle. If he kicks infield even with an average boot Mini scores without a hand laid on him.

[Andrew Walker]

It was the sideline commentator that actually knew what he was talking about. He went to explain it to the old codger in the box but seemed like he couldn't think of the terms momentum or inertia so he gave up and the old idiot in the box was left uncorrected as so often happens with Rabs haha

And yeah the pass was flat at worst, i think it left the hands backwards.

Also, gotta disagree a little on the mini try assist discussion. I thought for Guerra's first try Mini did contribute to creating the try. If you take the ball from dummy half to the short side close to the line i think your intention is to create a try. He does shorten the line a little bit by showing for split second and then the ball he delivered was actually a decent out-ball. The pass gets Guerra on the outside of his man. Guerra was good enough to take advantage and score but i dare say if Mini doesnt put the ball outside the centre Guerra would not have broken the initial tackle. Thought Mini was unlucky not to have 2 tries actually. There was that Mantellato ball to him that they called forward and in the second half Mini gets early ball to Guerra who ran downfield, drew the fullback and took the tackle. If he kicks infield even with an average boot Mini scores without a hand laid on him.

100 percent correct Yak

[Guest]

I just watched some of the highlights online lol surely those commentators were taking the piss. Funny stuff.

Also the problem with stats in Rugby League is that they are relatively new. I watch games and honestly don't know what a try assist is sometimes, I think Mini's pass for Guerra in the first try is a try assist though.

And Guerra is a quality player. If he puts a bit more bulk on and tightens up his defense I think he is an Origin forward.

[Rooster_6]

It was the sideline commentator that actually knew what he was talking about. He went to explain it to the old codger in the box but seemed like he couldn't think of the terms momentum or inertia so he gave up and the old idiot in the box was left uncorrected as so often happens with Rabs haha

And yeah the pass was flat at worst, i think it left the hands backwards.

Also, gotta disagree a little on the mini try assist discussion. I thought for Guerra's first try Mini did contribute to creating the try. If you take the ball from dummy half to the short side close to the line i think your intention is to create a try. He does shorten the line a little bit by showing for split second and then the ball he delivered was actually a decent out-ball. The pass gets Guerra on the outside of his man. Guerra was good enough to take advantage and score but i dare say if Mini doesnt put the ball outside the centre Guerra would not have broken the initial tackle. Thought Mini was unlucky not to have 2 tries actually. There was that Mantellato ball to him that they called forward and in the second half Mini gets early ball to Guerra who ran downfield, drew the fullback and took the tackle. If he kicks infield even with an average boot Mini scores without a hand laid on him.

He does hold the centre up but he never really gets him to commit to a decision or turn his shoulder in. I guess if Mini was a hooker I'd be giving him far more credit for the play because he did show good vision to dummy to the open side then run the short side where Italy had a 3 on 2. It'll be interesting to see whether NRLStats accredit him with the assist for the first try when they do the updates but the second definitely isn't imo.

[ROC181]

I just watched some of the highlights online lol surely those commentators were taking the piss. Funny stuff.

Also the problem with stats in Rugby League is that they are relatively new. I watch games and honestly don't know what a try assist is sometimes, I think Mini's pass for Guerra in the first try is a try assist though.

And Guerra is a quality player. If he puts a bit more bulk on and tightens up his defense I think he is an Origin forward.

1. Maybe they are UK's version of HG & Roy?
2. In any sport, as far as I am aware, the last pass is an assist. You can't split hairs and try and analyse every pass to see if it was an assist or not. That is the value of the sportsman who can put that last pass to the point scorers. The only time I believe it wouldn't be an assist it would be a mistake or error pass, like an accidental falcon.

[Guest]

1. Maybe they are UK's version of HG & Roy?
2. In any sport, as far as I am aware, the last pass is an assist. You can't split hairs and try and analyse every pass to see if it was an assist or not. That is the value of the sportsman who can put that last pass to the point scorers.

Year fair enough but like I said because these stats are new to Footy they aren't really defined. Also I think NRL is different to say NFL or Soccer.

See an example would be the try Mini scored on Anzac day. SBW produces the miracle round the corner pass for Pearce who supports and throws a simple 2 yard pace to Mini who scores. Surely in that play SBW has a bigger hand in creating and 'assisting' in the try being scored than Pearce does.

One thing I agree with is that there should be separate stats for passes and kicks.

[Pass the Ball]

Great stuff R6. Please keep the updates coming and Yak you really make a lot of sense.

[G-Unit Guerra]

SBW OMG! No try.

[Guest]

Score updates?

[Guest]

That was embaressing for SBW. Theyre not doing RTS any favours having Whare inside him the guy is a hog!