Pearce to Manly | A question not a rumour

[Guest]

He was good at kick returns but in try scoring and try assists he was pretty shit.. from memory.. I havn't got the stats.

Oh and he became the premier crab of the competition too..

its funny, boyd was 10 times better than superboy last season and he was still shit??????

[Geohood]

Is SUPERBOY a fullback or Boyd a halfback? W.T.F

[Guest]

Is SUPERBOY a fullback or Boyd a halfback? W.T.F

exactly, how many try assists did our halfback have????

i dare say less than boyd who is a fullback

[novice chook]

So Boyd didn't score many tries for the DragQueens, big deal.

As a fullback his most important job is to stop them, rather than score them. And he and his wingers managed that pretty well.

It's not as if their team were being flogged by 30+ week after week.

Boyd has a solid first year at the Dragons, a team that looked its best when playing as a team rather than relying on individuals.


NC

[Danish]

exactly, how many try assists did our halfback have????

i dare say less than boyd who is a fullback

Pearce actually had 9 try assists to Boyd's 6.


To put that in perspective, Pearce was ranked 23rd amongst the halves for try assists, with people like Porter, Herbert and Anasta all beating him, despite having their seasons dramatically shortened through injury.

Boyd was ranked 8th compared to his fellow fullbacks.

[Guest]

Pearce 2009 season rating - 4/10

Boyd 2009 season rating - 7.5/10

[Cockadoodledoo]

you do realise that premier league had only something like 11 teams in the whole comp.

Yeah, he took them from 11th to 8th..

[Geohood]

So Boyd didn't score many tries for the DragQueens, big deal.

As a fullback his most important job is to stop them, rather than score them. And he and his wingers managed that pretty well.

It's not as if their team were being flogged by 30+ week after week.

Boyd has a solid first year at the Dragons, a team that looked its best when playing as a team rather than relying on individuals.


NC

That's right.

Even if Pearce was given '4/10' for the year, our team would be given 2/10 for the year.

[Guest]

So Boyd didn't score many tries for the DragQueens, big deal.

As a fullback his most important job is to stop them, rather than score them. And he and his wingers managed that pretty well.

It's not as if their team were being flogged by 30+ week after week.

Boyd has a solid first year at the Dragons, a team that looked its best when playing as a team rather than relying on individuals.


NC

this has been blown out of proportion completley. I was simply suggesting that our backline is probably no worse than the table toping st merge and our halves are now far better which is testament to my point on the difference that carney will make. Is boyd one of the best 5 fullbacks in the game? answer = no therefore all I am saying is that being part of the 'best team' in the comp last year I expected better. And 'pearcesworstnightmare' my old friend, I dont know if you noticed but we came last. If you stuck boyd in our side I think his rating would be around the 1 mark

[Guest]

this has been blown out of proportion completley. I was simply suggesting that our backline is probably no worse than the table toping st merge and our halves are now far better which is testament to my point on the difference that carney will make. Is boyd one of the best 5 fullbacks in the game? answer = no therefore all I am saying is that being part of the 'best team' in the comp last year I expected better. And 'pearcesworstnightmare' my old friend, I dont know if you noticed but we came last. If you stuck boyd in our side I think his rating would be around the 1 mark

what it looks like you are saying is our backlines were very similar but our halves were shithouse and uncreative, in fact rather droll and boring, our backs ran out of energy because that caught a cold more than a football.

[Guest]

what it looks like you are saying is our backlines were very similar but our halves were shithouse and uncreative, in fact rather droll and boring, our backs ran out of energy because that caught a cold more than a football.

sort of except I am talking about our 2010 backline. My initial post stated that we have a strong backline and forward pack to support the argument I was making. The validity of the 2010 strong backline was questioned and so as to reply I compared our to be backline with st merge's and this whole boyd argument came to fruition. I think we have speed and experience in Mini and Graham, throw in a boom youngster like williamson and perrett who is proving himself an outstanding footballer coupled with a smart halves combo and we are in business imo.

The point you make about the halves is sort of what I am saying - Carney is one of those players that can put the icing on the cake imo - at canberra he made an average team look dynamite regularly which is what Im illuding to. Our backline is not the best in the comp for 2010 but all im saying is that it probably matches st georges of this year in the outside backs department and I think a pearce/carney halves combo is superior to hornby/soward quite greatly as well which is why I was trying to say that we are in a pretty good position. I think however that we are still one outside back short. Because graham is both a centre and winger it doesnt matter too much whether its a centre or winger we purchase but once we cut anasta and mason over the course of the next year or two, a centre and backrower with some experience to help out with the leadership and workload is needed.

[melon....]

exactly, how many try assists did our halfback have????

i dare say less than boyd who is a fullback

You an I know yuor boy would have done jack shit behind our pack last year. its rich attacking Pearce when The Diver would have been worse off.

[Guest]

You an I know yuor boy would have done jack shit behind our pack last year. its rich attacking Pearce when The Diver would have been worse off.

the interesting thing is that pearce made 9 try assists, 10 line breaks and 12 line break assists last year; Cronk made 13 try assists, 12 line break assists and 9 line breaks so not good but not as bad as you seem to like suggesting pearcesworstnightmare. I compared him to cronk for no other reason than that they play a very similar style of halfback, both had a 5/8 outside them who likes to get their hands on the ball as well and also for ultimate contrast - cronk played halfback for the premiers, pearce for the spooners. To compare him to soward would be daft - 5/8 and half are completley different roles especially in the case of soward who plays exculsively on the edges and out wide and therefore by virtue of positioning is much more likely to score, assist etc. As a halfback you are first reciever therefore your try assists are limited to short balls or kicks.

It is also daft to compare pearce to a thurston or prince as these 2 play very different styles of play as well to that of pearce and both dont really have a genuine halves partner who likes to dominate and get their hands on the ball like anasta and finch.

So, I dont want to argue nor am I suggesting that pearce had a strong and comendable season but these putdowns are becoming silly and poorly researched or sourced - hatred for the sake of it.

[Danish]

Actually he only had Anasta outside of him for half the season.

For the other half he was supposed to be running the show, it was supposed to be his chance to shine without Anasta "suffocating him" (someone's words on the wall)...

Unfortunately for him and us he just went backwards when handed all the responsibility.

[Guest]

Pearce - perhaps the most overrated player in the entire NRL. Simply, he just hasn't lived up to the wraps. What is daft is to compare him with any of the top line halves in the comp, because, on exposed form, he isn't anywhere near them. Just comparing "line break assists" and the like in isolation is irrelevant. He seems incapable of taking the line on, is as kick-happy as any of the other 2nd and 3rd tier halves, and consistently fails to take control of matches.

That said, he gets his chance to turn things around under Smith, and in a side which (hopefully) has some structure. But he really needs to lift