Cordner to have a blinder against Manly.

[Johnny Tobin]

no chance in team 100000%

Not true.

[Johnny Tobin]

Not sure where you for that from JT but I reckon he would have been one of the first forwards picked. I can understand Pearce but not Cordner.

And I hardly think his form was poor prior to his injury.

He would have had a very limited pre season and was just winding up when he got injured.

Daley was as dirty on him as on Pearce. He was not going to be selected.

[Johnny Tobin]

And try this for a stat:

The team that won the Premiership last year: Sydney Roosters.

Even after certain individuals on this site were convinced to the point of burst blood vessels that the NRL was doing everything in it's power to prevent us from winning, we still won.

How the f*ck does that work, if the NRL is corrupt?

It was due entirely to our amazing team. If we had a fair shake with penalties throughout the season we would have won the minor premiership by the length of the straight.

[Darkone]

It was due entirely to our amazing team. If we had a fair shake with penalties throughout the season we would have won the minor premiership by the length of the straight.

Just goes to show the greatness of that team last year & also how useless the rest of the comp except for Manly.

This season a few other teams are interested & it's going to be much harder.

Manly & the Roosters again in the final....if we get Jennings back

[Andrew Walker]

Do Tommy's stats say the NRL is corrupt? No.

The inference is well and truly drawn there dregs

[Guest]

The inference is well and truly drawn there dregs

The only inference I'm drawing tis that you are stupid as well.

9/11 was an inside job, Bigfoot exists etc etc.

[milanja]

Penalty counts won, Away games: 2008-2013

Sharks ------- 36
Broncos -------31
Rabbitohs ---- 28
Dragons -------27
Raiders --------23
Titans ---------23
Tigers ---------22
Eels ------------21
Storm ---------20
Cowboys ------20
Sea Eagles ----19
Knights --------17
Warriors -------16
Bulldogs -------15
Panthers -------15

...
...
...

Roosters --------8

So yeah, don't get your hopes up of a positive penalty count at Brooky!

The interesting thing about this stat, is that only 1 team from the top 8 teams of winning penalties away from home, has won a premiership in that period. The other winners have all come from the bottom half.

Penalties are handy, but good teams overcome them, manly have been doing it for as long as us.

[Tommy Smith]

If we play Souffs in this years GF, who do you reckon Dave Smith, Todd Greenberg, the Commission, and referees would privately want to win?

Why do you think Souffs statistically get a massive leg up? And why do we as a statistical fact get reamed by the refs every year?

It isn't because the NRL is corrupt. I believe it is because the Bunnies are viewed as the poor peoples underdog where as we are viewed as the rich snobs.

This is why the refs favour Souffs over us, which is a statistical fact. They are biased, sunconsciously or not, and the DRAMATICALLY skewed stats prove my belief.

[liver1971]

Just imagine the destruction if Klein and Cummins referee against us !

[Guest]

If we play Souffs in this years GF, who do you reckon Dave Smith, Todd Greenberg, the Commission, and referees would privately want to win?

Why do you think Souffs statistically get a massive leg up? And why do we as a statistical fact get reamed by the refs every year?

It isn't because the NRL is corrupt. I believe it is because the Bunnies are viewed as the poor peoples underdog where as we are viewed as the rich snobs.

This is why the refs favour Souffs over us, which is a statistical fact. They are biased, sunconsciously or not, and the DRAMATICALLY skewed stats prove my belief.

What can we do about it? Nothing.

I'm sure you put a bit of time into finding those stats Tommy, and I applaud you, but it changes nothing.

We are still the reigning premiers, Souths still haven't won a comp in 43 years and counting, and it's statistically factual that the teams that receive fewer penalties are better off prepared when it comes to the finals.

Why would you want to change that?

[Jacks Fur Coat]

It was due entirely to our amazing team. If we had a fair shake with penalties throughout the season we would have won the minor premiership by the length of the straight.

And imagine how much more easily we would have won the comp without that stumblebum Minichiello?

[stsae]

The interesting thing about this stat, is that only 1 team from the top 8 teams of winning penalties away from home, has won a premiership in that period. The other winners have all come from the bottom half.

Penalties are handy, but good teams overcome them, manly have been doing it for as long as us.

What can we do about it? Nothing.

I'm sure you put a bit of time into finding those stats Tommy, and I applaud you, but it changes nothing.

We are still the reigning premiers, Souths still haven't won a comp in 43 years and counting, and it's statistically factual that the teams that receive fewer penalties are better off prepared when it comes to the finals.

Why would you want to change that?

This and this.

Facts are we give away more penalties than other teams and we receive less. Have done so for the whole NRL era.

What some don't comprehend is the 6 GF appearances in the same period.

It's a fact that we've been penalised harder than any other side but in that same period have made more GFs than any other side.

Whinging about the obvious is useless.

No one who supports our club or is involved with our club expects to win a count at home. Let alone away. Let alone at Brookie.

Whinging about it ain't gonna change anything. Just makes you look like a biarch, like bOracle.

[stsae]

And imagine how much more easily we would have won the comp without that stumblebum Minichiello?

Pure GOLD.

RMN all the way baby.

[milanja]

If we play Souffs in this years GF, who do you reckon Dave Smith, Todd Greenberg, the Commission, and referees would privately want to win?

Why do you think Souffs statistically get a massive leg up? And why do we as a statistical fact get reamed by the refs every year?

It isn't because the NRL is corrupt. I believe it is because the Bunnies are viewed as the poor peoples underdog where as we are viewed as the rich snobs.

This is why the refs favour Souffs over us, which is a statistical fact. They are biased, sunconsciously or not, and the DRAMATICALLY skewed stats prove my belief.

Im not into the whole conspiracy thing mainly because, if the nrl did want a sentimental team or underdog to win a GF they would of by now. Maybe the tigers and panthers in the last half a century have won a GF that they probably shouldn't have.

souths have built into a good team over the last 5yrs, so if they win, it would be on the back of some handy players such as burgess, luke and inglis. Would some of the nrl, fans and some officials want them to win? Probably, but in a two team battle there is always a sentimental favourite, and not many of them prevail, warriors, eels come to mind in recent years.

If the nrl did favour the dogs or storm so much, do you think they would of stripped them of points and Grand finals?

[Arties Pie]

If the nrl did favour the dogs or storm so much, do you think they would of stripped them of points and Grand finals?

Not only should they have had their titles stripped but both clubs should have been booted out, they didn't just breach the cap they were so far gone it wasn't funny, plain simple cheats. But the league was run by News and both were super league teams and one was owned by news so that booting them out wasn't an option.