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[Roosterfarian]

No but he helped Carney piss on his mate to turn the fire out!

[Headless Chook]

No but he helped Carney piss on his mate to turn the fire out!

I heard Gallen was available to help put the fire out as well.

[Guest]

There is one unstable influence there-he must go

this was Willie's fault? bloody hell that guy gets around!

[sretsoor]

So, has there been any proof TC was an actual participant or the usual media beat up - 'guilt by assoc'?
Isnt it ironic that some are appalled at this yet more than likely lol'd when watching Jackass?
For me, I'll just wait to we hear, if ever, what really happened before hanging the guy.

[Guest]

Non-issue. The club shouldn't even dignify this with a response. Winners get sponsors, not PR spin. Look at the Sharks, sacked their best player, among others, for a far more serious issue. Surely the sponsors should be lining up for these good guys of the NRL? **** no. Sharks are sponsorless too, even after bending over time and time again for the media hate machine. Why? Because they're equal spooners. On the other end of the spectrum, we have both Manly and Melbourne with their star players on sexual assault and somestic violence charges. Melbourne's jersey is the most expensive in the NRL. Winners get sponsors, dickheads or not. Losers don't, no matter how goodie two shoes they might be.

Obviously true that winning helps and losing does not. But because we have been losing, it becomes doubly important that nothing else happens that could further harm our chances of signing someone. Manly are sponsored by the family company of one of the owners and were previously sponsored by the other owner. Granted, Melbourne are the benchmark (remember when they used to call us that?) side as far as on field success goes.

Without having counted, it would seem that over the last 12 months we've had more unsavoury off field dramas than all the other clubs combined. We now have "form". Any story about additional incidents now is reported along the lines of "After a spate of alcohol related trouble in 2009, The Sydney Roosters are back in the headlines again for all the wrong reasons..."

Winners or not, who can blame any company for not wanting to touch us.

Carney has admitted he has a problem with alcohol. Just imagine the sort of promises he would have had to make and assurances he would have given before we signed him.

If he was serious about those assurances and addressing his alcohol problem he'd stay away ftrom pubs

He's not serious, and he hasn't changed

Grow up Todd, or piss off

[Guest]

All players, and especially those who are media magnets, should be careful who they associate with.
I'll bet the man with the burns is not laughing even if he is an idiot. Bet he won't do it again, but Carney will!

[sretsoor]

For all we know, as TC is supposedly off the grog, he was the only one sober enough to get his mate to a hospital and that was his part. A nurse has then leaked the story to the press assuming TC did it. Just keeping an open mind until the facts come out. Likewise it could have been self inflicted burns. Who knows.

[Guest]

The story was also reported by Fairfax, The ABC, Channel 9, 7, 10 Fox and SBS.

But certainly, if it does turn out to be false, then I take back everything I've said and I apologise. But you know it won't turn out to be false

He hasn't limited his drinking, and he hasn't changed his ways. His claims of not letting the Roosters down and being grateful are bullshit.

So take us through what actually happened:

How drunk was Carney if at all?

What actually happened in regards to the lead up to the guy being injured?

Did Carney light the match?

Did he hold the guy down while someone else did it?

What was the function?

I reckon they are fair questions and they should be answered before any crucifixion.

Ch7 broke the story and it is not unusual for other media media outlets to run the story and specify that it came from someone else as in what has happened here.

The story won't turn out to be false but the facts may be a little distored due a certain person in the vicinity.

[Guest]

So take us through what actually happened:

How drunk was Carney if at all?

What actually happened in regards to the lead up to the guy being injured?

Did Carney light the match?

Did he hold the guy down while someone else did it?

What was the function?

I reckon they are fair questions and they should be answered before any crucifixion.

Ch7 broke the story and it is not unusual for other media media outlets to run the story and specify that it came from someone else as in what has happened here.

The story won't turn out to be false but the facts may be a little distored due a certain person in the vicinity.

Fair points with regards to the media and waiting for all the facts

Regardless, he's on extremely thin ice due to the litany of previous drunken behaviour he's been involved in

Elsewhere it was reported that he was at Northies on the weekend and left after being baited by some patrons. Maybe that's just an anti-Roosters media conspiracy too...

Again, if he was serious about addressing his alcohol and behavioural issues, he doesn't go to Northies (or any pubs) and he doesn't drink to excess (even at a private function) and put himself in potentially bad situations

It would appear though that he simply can't help himself

[Cockadoodledoo]

For all we know, as TC is supposedly off the grog, he was the only one sober enough to get his mate to a hospital and that was his part. A nurse has then leaked the story to the press assuming TC did it. Just keeping an open mind until the facts come out. Likewise it could have been self inflicted burns. Who knows.

Where has it been reported he is off the grog? I have only read that he has decided not to go off the grog but to drink more responsibly (if that is possible). Mitchell Pearce is the one supposedly on the grog ban but that seems very optimistic.

[Cockadoodledoo]

Obviously true that winning helps and losing does not. But because we have been losing, it becomes doubly important that nothing else happens that could further harm our chances of signing someone. Manly are sponsored by the family company of one of the owners and were previously sponsored by the other owner. Granted, Melbourne are the benchmark (remember when they used to call us that?) side as far as on field success goes.

Without having counted, it would seem that over the last 12 months we've had more unsavoury off field dramas than all the other clubs combined. We now have "form". Any story about additional incidents now is reported along the lines of "After a spate of alcohol related trouble in 2009, The Sydney Roosters are back in the headlines again for all the wrong reasons..."

Winners or not, who can blame any company for not wanting to touch us.

Carney has admitted he has a problem with alcohol. Just imagine the sort of promises he would have had to make and assurances he would have given before we signed him.

If he was serious about those assurances and addressing his alcohol problem he'd stay away ftrom pubs

He's not serious, and he hasn't changed

Grow up Todd, or piss off

This complete lack of discipline off the field is a major reason for our problems on it.. Some people just cannot connect the dots..

[Guest]

Like they would ever say the truth in public.. It is all spin from Noyce.. That's what he always feeds us.. Believing that it is part of some worldwide strategic change in sponsorship direction from Samsung is laughable.. Apart from the Melbourne Victory (already having a presence in Victoria with Essendon) and us, which other sporting teams worldwide have they dropped? Chelsea? no.. Essendon? no..

Early in 2009 they agreed to a 3 year deal to sponsor Palmeira's worth almost 5 million euros per year. They are also planning on pumping $20 million per season into a cricket competition in India and constructing 9 stadiums in India.

Not bad for a company pulling back sponsorship...

They have also recently approached Manchester United regarding becoming their shirt sponsor once their deal with AIG expires (end of current Premier League season). That would cost a fortune...

They're also a major sponsor for the FIFA World Cup, so I would say it has very little to do with the Roosters, good or bad but more to do with their commitments in other global markets.

[Guest]

Again, if he was serious about addressing his alcohol and behavioural issues, he doesn't go to Northies (or any pubs) and he doesn't drink to excess (even at a private function) and put himself in potentially bad situations

On the contrary, if he is going to places that serve alcohol and is behaving himself then that is highly comendable. He has to have a life after all and still wants to socialise with his mates.

[Guest]

On the contrary, if he is going to places that serve alcohol and is behaving himself then that is highly comendable. He has to have a life after all and still wants to socialise with his mates.

That sounds like the sort of thing his Mum might say, trying as hard as she can to convince herself that he's ok now, when deep down she knows he isn't

[Cockadoodledoo]

They're also a major sponsor for the FIFA World Cup, so I would say it has very little to do with the Roosters, good or bad but more to do with their commitments in other global markets.

Like Melbourne? Why do you think they have elected to remain as major sponsor of Essendon? They have also become the major sponsor of the International Athletics Federation.