Willie's Leave Extended By Another 3 Weeks

[novice chook]

I applaud the club for taking this stance.

If Mason is as disruptive as he's been portayed, then kudos to the club for keeping him away from the guys trying to get ready for 2010.

I would much rather see a moderately successful 2010 (make the 8) and see 400K sitting on the sideline than endure another farking 2009!

Chook.

Bloody well said Chook.

Short term pain for long term gain.

He will be gone at season's end but if we can cut the crap out of the attitude of some of our blokes then we build the framework for long term stability and success that will be apparent long after the dud has departed. We may have to shed a further dickhead or two along the way, but that's no great loss either.


NC

[Cockadoodledoo]

So it will look good for the club by paying him $350k to go and ply his trade elsewhere?

Or pay him $450K to play xbox. The damage was done when we signed him... Better to lose 80% of an investment than 100%.

[Cockadoodledoo]

I applaud the club for taking this stance.

If Mason is as disruptive as he's been portayed, then kudos to the club for keeping him away from the guys trying to get ready for 2010.

I would much rather see a moderately successful 2010 (make the 8) and see 400K sitting on the sideline than endure another farking 2009!

Chook.

Agree about that but if he is so disruptive, why is the club worried he will strengthen another team? Wouldn't they think he would be disruptive elsewhere?

[Pass the Ball]

Agree about that but if he is so disruptive, why is the club worried he will strengthen another team? Wouldn't they think he would be disruptive elsewhere?

There is always a honeymoon period...

[Headless Chook]

Or pay him $450K to play xbox. The damage was done when we signed him... Better to lose 80% of an investment than 100%.

Let him sit out a year and play Xbox.......he will suffer the consequences the following year when he can't get more than a $50k plus incentives deal.

[Cockadoodledoo]

Let him sit out a year and play Xbox.......he will suffer the consequences the following year when he can't get more than a $50k plus incentives deal.

That's pretty poor fiscal management by the club. Remember in all this time they have actually been wanting to offload him to someone else, they have just wanted to minimise how much money they would have to pay out to Mason.
The intention was never to pay him his full contract value to play xbox.

Mason may suffer the consequences, yes.. But the club should be doing everything possible to minimize the consequences and financial loss caused by Mason being contracted to the club. That should be the first priority, we aren't exactly flush with cash

The result being, the longer this has drawn out, the smaller the amount we are likely to get back. Given we don't have a major sponsor, the club should be doing what it can to get something back in terms of dollars by letting Mason go than get nothing back. That money could be spent on the juniors or signing a bargain based player who another club may be trying to offload to stay within their own cap.

[Guest]

That's pretty poor fiscal management by the club. Remember in all this time they have actually been wanting to offload him to someone else, they have just wanted to minimise how much money they would have to pay out to Mason.
The intention was never to pay him his full contract value to play xbox.

Mason may suffer the consequences, yes.. But the club should be doing everything possible to minimize the consequences and financial loss caused by Mason being contracted to the club. That should be the first priority, we aren't exactly flush with cash

The result being, the longer this has drawn out, the smaller the amount we are likely to get back. Given we don't have a major sponsor, the club should be doing what it can to get something back in terms of dollars by letting Mason go than get nothing back. That money could be spent on the juniors or signing a bargain based player who another club may be trying to offload to stay within their own cap.

Exactly right

Where do people get the idea that we have so much cash we can just afford to pay a guy $400-$450K to sit at home?

We don't even have a major sponsor

The salary cap for each club at present is $4.4 mill (I think)

Not only is Mason chewing up something like 10% of the entire cap, now we should pay it to him and have him sit at home or play for Newtown just so we stuff up his "career"?

Absolute madness. Cut the losses while they still can. Fairfax seem to be sticking to their Melbourne story. Get on the phone Nick and do a deal that saves some of the bloody money you wasted on him. If he's getting paid $400K, surely someone will take him for $150K or thereabouts and we pick up the rest. God knows it's been done before. Finch, Soward, Stuart, who knows how many more.

[Headless Chook]

Exactly right

Where do people get the idea that we have so much cash we can just afford to pay a guy $400-$450K to sit at home?

We don't even have a major sponsor

The salary cap for each club at present is $4.4 mill (I think)

Not only is Mason chewing up something like 10% of the entire cap, now we should pay it to him and have him sit at home or play for Newtown just so we stuff up his "career"?

Absolute madness. Cut the losses while they still can. Fairfax seem to be sticking to their Melbourne story. Get on the phone Nick and do a deal that saves some of the bloody money you wasted on him. If he's getting paid $400K, surely someone will take him for $150K or thereabouts and we pick up the rest. God knows it's been done before. Finch, Soward, Stuart, who knows how many more.

But nobody wants him for $150k. They're happy to pay him the base contract of $50k, but then we have to pay him the rest. If it comes to that, I'd prefer we pay him the full $450k and have him languishing with Newtown, rather than have us pay him to play at Melbourne.

All I'm saying is that I don't want to see the club paying him to play for a competitor.

[novice chook]

No NRL Club has a spare $150K at this stage of the season to spend on a high risk player like Mason.

As Headless Chook says, the vultures are circling waiting for the Roosters to become desperate enough to pay close to 100% of his contract.

The Roosters won't win out of any deal that's made, they have little or no bargaining power.

So why bother with a deal at all?


NC

[Guest]

No NRL Club has a spare $150K at this stage of the season to spend on a high risk player like Mason.

As Headless Chook says, the vultures are circling waiting for the Roosters to become desperate enough to pay close to 100% of his contract.

The Roosters won't win out of any deal that's made, they have little or no bargaining power.

So why bother with a deal at all?


NC

Fine, then save $100K or even $50K, piss him off, and move on

Even avoiding paying him $50K is better than paying him the lot

[Cockadoodledoo]

Fine, then save $100K or even $50K, piss him off, and move on

Even avoiding paying him $50K is better than paying him the lot

I know and it ends the ongoing media speculation which can also be disruptive... Every media conference this year after we lose a game we will get asked if the club would be better off playing Mason etc etc.. They should be trying to do deals to offload him in exchange for someone else.. The club has reportedly being trying to offload him since April last year.. I am suspecting they tried to play hardball too early and have come up short.

[novice chook]

It won't take Brian Smith long to make it clear to the media that the subject of Mason is off limits and won't be discussed. And if they contine pushing it he'll just cut short the interview.

The journos will soon learn to concentrate on current footy subjects alone, not old and hashed over history.


NC

[Guest]

I am looking forward to meeting Brian on the 22nd at Kingswood....assuming he will be there of course....

[Guest]

Wasn't it reported that Mason wanted a $200K payout to leave and the roosters only wanted to pay $100K??

Well, since his 09/10 contract started on 1 Nov, they have paid him $100K to sit on his arse and will continue to pay $1000 per day. The $200K proposal seems like a sound commercial decision in retrospect

Poorly handled by club...but no-one should be surprised

[Cockadoodledoo]

Wasn't it reported that Mason wanted a $200K payout to leave and the roosters only wanted to pay $100K??

Well, since his 09/10 contract started on 1 Nov, they have paid him $100K to sit on his arse and will continue to pay $1000 per day. The $200K proposal seems like a sound commercial decision in retrospect

Poorly handled by club...but no-one should be surprised

Not having a go at you but we don't know how real that was, but if so they should have taken it.. The longer we held out the worse it was going to get as his options to go elsewhere were always going to reduce.