Willie's Leave Extended By Another 3 Weeks

[Guest]

Of course they feel sorry for him.

First it was "Big bad ROOSTER Willie pees on a wall."

Now its "Big bad ROOSTERS pee on Willie"

Notice what is common there???

Rothfield likes urinating willies????????

[supermario]

Rothfield likes urinating willies????????

LOL yes that's exactly it

[Guest]

What is Happening with Management

If Willie is so disruptive and they don't want him in FG, then why would you put him at Newtown, would he not be disruptive there? Do we want to infect the pool we draw from for FG?

Cut it out, Pay Willie out if he is a problem. Let him be a problem elsewhere.

I've seen players in the past who had issues get turned around by a good coach, are we saying here that Smith does not have the Man Management skills to control all his players? Which ones can he control? Half? I want a coach who uses all the tools, who has the necessary skills to manage all the players. If he has given up what does that say about the coach.

What example does this set for those in the team, if Smith gets a dislike for you his resolution is to have you sitting at home getting paid for nothing. Maybe after getting a few knocks some players might like that idea. Then they get the occasional run for Newtown, real hard way to earn a living.

I want value for money from the players and the coach. I hope the Roosters get thier act together soon, I've been a supporter for over thirty years and would like to see them playing for the jersey as they are treated like men, with contracts honoured.

If I sign a contract saying I'll pay you to play for three years I should do just that, if I'm that weak I won't keep my side of the bargin then I should compensate you by paying you out. That's what honourable people do, lets start setting a higher standard, then maybe the players will respond. Everything starts at the top.

[elo]

I'm so over this that I either want to see him paid out or back at training.......surely Brian has got his point across by now and Willie knows if he doesn't train the house down his career is as good as dead.

[Guest]

MadMike i agree with you 100%, the whole thing is starting to make us look bad, get him in training and try to turn him around or pay him out.

[Guest]

If Willie is so disruptive and they don't want him in FG, then why would you put him at Newtown, would he not be disruptive there? Do we want to infect the pool we draw from for FG?

Cut it out, Pay Willie out if he is a problem. Let him be a problem elsewhere.

I've seen players in the past who had issues get turned around by a good coach, are we saying here that Smith does not have the Man Management skills to control all his players? Which ones can he control? Half? I want a coach who uses all the tools, who has the necessary skills to manage all the players. If he has given up what does that say about the coach.

What example does this set for those in the team, if Smith gets a dislike for you his resolution is to have you sitting at home getting paid for nothing. Maybe after getting a few knocks some players might like that idea. Then they get the occasional run for Newtown, real hard way to earn a living.

I want value for money from the players and the coach. I hope the Roosters get thier act together soon, I've been a supporter for over thirty years and would like to see them playing for the jersey as they are treated like men, with contracts honoured.

If I sign a contract saying I'll pay you to play for three years I should do just that, if I'm that weak I won't keep my side of the bargin then I should compensate you by paying you out. That's what honourable people do, lets start setting a higher standard, then maybe the players will respond. Everything starts at the top.

Everything does indeed start at the top, and having the untouchable N Politis at the top of this club is the Roosters biggest problem by a mile The only way Smith won't succeed at the Roosters is if Politis interferes and doesn't let Smith, O'Sullivan, Noyce and co do what they're paid to do.

Something I heard AFL club Carlton president Stephen Kernahan say the other day reminded me once again of how out of control Politis is. 3 Carlton players got themselves into alcohol related trouble in the last few weeks, and had penalties imposed on them by the football club. Not by the board, but by senior management of the football club. As it should be. The AFL then issued a "please explain" to the club regarding the incidents that the players were involved in. This required Kernahan and the board to become involved in the matter, and in doing so, the board increased the penalties that had initially been applied. When announcing the increased penalties, Kernahan said something along the lines of "whilst the board is loathe to become involved in football club operational matters, on this occasion we were required to do so by the AFL..."

That sentence right there highlights the problem with Politis.

But regarding Mason, I suspect that his papers were stamped before Smith arrived.

The fact that he's so completely unwanted by the club makes me think there's something more to it than just being a bad influence on the younger players. If it was just that, given the money they're paying him, I reckon they'd give Smith the chance to turn him around. My hunch is that they know he's done something, but can't prove it. Who knows, maybe it relates to the round 26 match v Cowboys. Maybe not. But he must have done something

[novice chook]

Brian Smith has enough on his plate with addressing the attitudes of the a number of the younger players, and that's where his focus should rightfully be.

It's frankly not worth his effort to try and turn around the attitude of a has been such as Mason - esp when others have already tried and failed to do this (ie; the Dogs).

And it's not as if the bloke was an asset on the field in 2009. He was decidedly average.

There are only 24 hours in a day - and Brian Smith has more than enough to fill them as it is with our rabble - on field and off field, without adding the task of 'counselling' of Mason to the list.

Which would you prefer - Brian Smith concentrate on the future, or the past? I know which one I would prefer, and if a more successful year in 2010 means that Mason sits on the sideline fully paid, then so be it.

As for Mason playing for Newtown, I'm not sure that's what Smith has in mind. I'm hoping he opts for the humiliation of Bundaberg Rum Cup.


NC

[Pass the Ball]

I have heard he is a big chance for Bondi United this season..

I am serious too....

[Guest]

If Willie is so disruptive and they don't want him in FG, then why would you put him at Newtown, would he not be disruptive there? Do we want to infect the pool we draw from for FG?

Cut it out, Pay Willie out if he is a problem. Let him be a problem elsewhere.

I've seen players in the past who had issues get turned around by a good coach, are we saying here that Smith does not have the Man Management skills to control all his players? Which ones can he control? Half? I want a coach who uses all the tools, who has the necessary skills to manage all the players. If he has given up what does that say about the coach.

What example does this set for those in the team, if Smith gets a dislike for you his resolution is to have you sitting at home getting paid for nothing. Maybe after getting a few knocks some players might like that idea. Then they get the occasional run for Newtown, real hard way to earn a living.

I want value for money from the players and the coach. I hope the Roosters get thier act together soon, I've been a supporter for over thirty years and would like to see them playing for the jersey as they are treated like men, with contracts honoured.

If I sign a contract saying I'll pay you to play for three years I should do just that, if I'm that weak I won't keep my side of the bargin then I should compensate you by paying you out. That's what honourable people do, lets start setting a higher standard, then maybe the players will respond. Everything starts at the top.

The club are doing the honourable thing and paying his contract. Where he plays or not is the clubs choice.

[Guest]

The Point Is

The club are doing the honourable thing and paying his contract. Where he plays or not is the clubs choice.

If Smith is sitting him down because he is unable to deal with him, is this how the coach will react to any player he can't manage?

Mason was on contract before Smith came so he knew who was on the squad, if the incoming coach wants people gone, then he should do the right thing. Go to management and have them pay out those he does not want.

It is disrepectful to anyone to have them under contract too play and have them sitting idle. How many will Smith come to dislike and sit.

I don't care who it is Smith dislikes, Mason, Pearce, whoever, if they are footballers let them have the chance to play, if not for you then for anyone after you release them and pay them out.

I can't help but think just having the saga continue is affecting the team. They see what the club attitude to fairness is and must think, that could be me in 6 months.

Get this over with.

[novice chook]

The bloke is getting paid for doing fark all - how much fairer can the Club get!

The Club is more than willing for Mason to find another Club, but they are only willing to contribute so much to have him play for the opposition.

It is Mason's choice to sit on his fat arse doing nothing and being paid the big bucks when he could be sweating it out for another Club for less money.

If there's one thing the Roosters can't be blamed for in his debacle it's Mason's love of money above all else, including actually playing football.


NC

[Jollyjock]

The bloke is getting paid for doing fark all - how much fairer can the Club get!

The Club is more than willing for Mason to find another Club, but they are only willing to contribute so much to have him play for the opposition.

It is Mason's choice to sit on his fat arse doing nothing and being paid the big bucks when he could be sweating it out for another Club for less money.

If there's one thing the Roosters can't be blamed for in his debacle it's Mason's love of money above all else, including actually playing football.


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Your hatred of Willy has no bounds

[Johnny Tobin]

Everything does indeed start at the top, and having the untouchable N Politis at the top of this club is the Roosters biggest problem by a mile The only way Smith won't succeed at the Roosters is if Politis interferes and doesn't let Smith, O'Sullivan, Noyce and co do what they're paid to do.

Something I heard AFL club Carlton president Stephen Kernahan say the other day reminded me once again of how out of control Politis is. 3 Carlton players got themselves into alcohol related trouble in the last few weeks, and had penalties imposed on them by the football club. Not by the board, but by senior management of the football club. As it should be. The AFL then issued a "please explain" to the club regarding the incidents that the players were involved in. This required Kernahan and the board to become involved in the matter, and in doing so, the board increased the penalties that had initially been applied. When announcing the increased penalties, Kernahan said something along the lines of "whilst the board is loathe to become involved in football club operational matters, on this occasion we were required to do so by the AFL..."

That sentence right there highlights the problem with Politis.

But regarding Mason, I suspect that his papers were stamped before Smith arrived.

The fact that he's so completely unwanted by the club makes me think there's something more to it than just being a bad influence on the younger players. If it was just that, given the money they're paying him, I reckon they'd give Smith the chance to turn him around. My hunch is that they know he's done something, but can't prove it. Who knows, maybe it relates to the round 26 match v Cowboys. Maybe not. But he must have done something

Thanks Buzz

[Guest]

If Smith is sitting him down because he is unable to deal with him, is this how the coach will react to any player he can't manage?

Mason was on contract before Smith came so he knew who was on the squad, if the incoming coach wants people gone, then he should do the right thing. Go to management and have them pay out those he does not want.

It is disrepectful to anyone to have them under contract too play and have them sitting idle. How many will Smith come to dislike and sit.

I don't care who it is Smith dislikes, Mason, Pearce, whoever, if they are footballers let them have the chance to play, if not for you then for anyone after you release them and pay them out.

I can't help but think just having the saga continue is affecting the team. They see what the club attitude to fairness is and must think, that could be me in 6 months.

Get this over with.

You are making a huge assumption there without any evidence at all

[novice chook]

Your hatred of Willy has no bounds

Fair enough - but just stating the position as I see it.

The Roosters are not stopping the Wanka from joining another Club to continue his footy career. All they are doing is putting restrictions on the amount they will pay him to do this.

There is nothing unfair about that, as is being claimed. The Wanka has been given a choice - either wants the money and stays at the Roosters or he wants to play footy at another Club. Currently he's choosing the money.


NC