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  • #16
    i feel exactly t6he same lone rooster, with Carney at 5/8 we have THE UNKNOWN X FACTOR THAT WILL DISRUPT THE PLANNED DEFENJSIVE PATTERNS OF THGE HIGH LEVEL ORGANISED TEAMS? i guess if he has a roving commission that may work as well, but then were wasting the not inconsiderable talents of mini or Sammy at fullback?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by OVP View Post
      *bangs head repeatedly against nearby wall and then walks down to the TAB and plonks a couple of hundred on us for the spoon*
      while your down at the TAB can you put a lazy greenback on for me....to win the WHOLE thing......shock and awe...the opposition will be busy watching what Carney might do, that our rep hooker in the making (rusty's claim not mine) can weave his magic at the line....genius I tell you......


      just in case put a hundgie on the spoon for me

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      • #18
        Originally posted by stephenj View Post
        i feel exactly t6he same lone rooster, with Carney at 5/8 we have THE UNKNOWN X FACTOR THAT WILL DISRUPT THE PLANNED DEFENJSIVE PATTERNS OF THGE HIGH LEVEL ORGANISED TEAMS? i guess if he has a roving commission that may work as well, but then were wasting the not inconsiderable talents of mini or Sammy at fullback?
        Why would we wasting this talent when either Mini or Sammy can fill in when Carney is on a roving commission
        Spanner gone and never forgotten

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        • #19
          I would love to see Mini chiming in to the backline from fullback off Carney passes from 5/8. I think this would be a massive attacking weapon our backline would possess.

          With Carney at fullback and Mini on the wing, such a combination would be unlikely.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by stephenj View Post
            i feel exactly t6he same lone rooster, with Carney at 5/8 we have THE UNKNOWN X FACTOR THAT WILL DISRUPT THE PLANNED DEFENJSIVE PATTERNS OF THGE HIGH LEVEL ORGANISED TEAMS? i guess if he has a roving commission that may work as well, but then were wasting the not inconsiderable talents of mini or Sammy at fullback?
            With the roving commission, you're right, it might work stephen. But then I think that instead of playing one player out of natural position, Smith will have three out of position - Carney, Pez and Mini ??? I'll wait and see but I just don't like the sound of it in theory.

            What this has all brought to the surface, for me at least, is that the Roosters are an unbalanced side with the players they currently have on roster and the natural positions those players play.
            "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."

            Thomas Jefferson

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            • #21
              'natural positions' aren't set in stone.. Mini and Perrett have played alot of good footy on the wing in different points in their career. Mini was on fire vs South late this yr on the wing... lets just see how the players perform once the trials and first few games come around.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by TheLoneRooster View Post
                With the roving commission, you're right, it might work stephen. But then I think that instead of playing one player out of natural position, Smith will have three out of position - Carney, Pez and Mini ??? I'll wait and see but I just don't like the sound of it in theory.

                What this has all brought to the surface, for me at least, is that the Roosters are an unbalanced side with the players they currently have on roster and the natural positions those players play.
                Perrett and Mini won't be out of position... Mini started his career on the wing, and to be honest even with Carney at 5/8th I still would have played him on the wing this year. And Perrett has played far mroe Wing than fullback, although he is a better fullback.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by OVP View Post
                  *bangs head repeatedly against nearby wall and then walks down to the TAB and plonks a couple of hundred on us for the spoon*
                  Dude, we are soooooooooo winning the spoon.
                  Alcohol never solved any life problems.....then again neither did milk.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by rcptn View Post
                    Carney to be another Gidley



                    In his biggest decision since quitting the Knights, Smith will give Carney an unrestricted playmaking licence from fullback. "He will be a free agent," Smith said. "He can work within a system but also has that individual flair which can make things happen. He will bob up where he sees fit and it is something Kurt (Gidley) did well for us at Newcastle.
                    Didn't Freddy come out and say something similar when he picked Anasta at fullback?
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                    • #25
                      Club struggling with potency in the halves buys highly rated young 5/8, but old slow 5/8 is captain and really wants to stay 5/8. Incredibly, club decides to move young highly rated 5/8 to fullback. Why didn't club just buy a fullback?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by melon.... View Post
                        Dude, we are soooooooooo winning the spoon.
                        Is this what the old rooster heads do before seasons kick off to keep expectations as low as possible :P

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                        • #27
                          Has anyone been at training and can confirm they are focusing on training on these positions? Or could Smith be just talking out of his arse?

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                          • #28
                            I don't see a real problem with trialling it to see how to pans out on the field.

                            If there is one thing Carney does not lack it's confidence in his own ability. And confidence is imperative if you are to play fullback and that's where Sam Perrett fell down occasionally. Carney will fly high for the ball expecting to catch it and that's half the battle sometimes. And from memory his goal line defence was very good.

                            He may need a little help in his positional play but Mini can keep an eye on that, assist him with it and take over at the back when Carney plays a little in the halves.

                            I wouldn't be surprised if in reality Morbs, Braith, Carney and Mini switch around during the game. Braith starts at 5/8 with Morbs at lock, then Braith moves to lock with Maubs slotting into the centres. Carney then goes to 5/8 Mini to fullback and Perrett/Graham onto the wing. It's not as those involved in the switch aren't haven't played both positions before.

                            He may not get much attention, but Morbs may be the key to Smith's masterplan.


                            NC
                            Supporting the RW&B, through good times and bad times.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by novice chook View Post
                              I don't see a real problem with trialling it to see how to pans out on the field.

                              If there is one thing Carney does not lack it's confidence in his own ability. And confidence is imperative if you are to play fullback and that's where Sam Perrett fell down occasionally. Carney will fly high for the ball expecting to catch it and that's half the battle sometimes. And from memory his goal line defence was very good.

                              He may need a little help in his positional play but Mini can keep an eye on that, assist him with it and take over at the back when Carney plays a little in the halves.

                              I wouldn't be surprised if in reality Morbs, Braith, Carney and Mini switch around during the game. Braith starts at 5/8 with Morbs at lock, then Braith moves to lock with Maubs slotting into the centres. Carney then goes to 5/8 Mini to fullback and Perrett/Graham onto the wing. It's not as those involved in the switch aren't haven't played both positions before.

                              He may not get much attention, but Morbs may be the key to Smith's masterplan.


                              NC

                              Why the need for all the switching? This is a side coming off the wooden spoon, who are lacking in confidence, and who have a new coach. The article also talks about them wanting to abandon the old play types and "structure" they had under Fittler. That sounds like excellent news.

                              But why not just determine where everyone's best position is, pick them there, and start working towards developing some combinations? Just keep things simple, at least to start with. Why the need to make it all so confusing with "roving commissions" and picking guys out of position?

                              Reminds me of the last part of Stuart's tenure. All smoke and mirrors about who'd be played where, who'd be picked, and what team would be announced an hour before kickoff. All they did was confuse themselves

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                              • #30
                                IMO - An important role of todays fullback is to organise the team defensively. Minichello was excellent at it, Brett Stewart is the best at it, and Perrett was dreadful at it..

                                Carney obviously has the vision and the organisational skills to fill this role.

                                If you remember, the main problem with Anasta at full back was that he could not catch the bloody ball..

                                What is Carney like under a high-ball...???

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