Carney too Fullback it's a Done Deal

[Headless Chook]

Use your head headless. For starters kicking from the back at fullback usually means the rest of the team is offside so unless they are kicking to themselves then attacking kicks are very limited.

Regarding your other post, Lockyer was never a play-making fullback. You need to get over that idea. He was only a play-maker when at 5/8th. There is no such thing as a play-making fullback.

Where does it say that fullbacks have to stand back behind the line when kicking? Why can't he move into the front line much like Lockyer did when he WAS a playmaking Fullback for the Broncos.

Your statement that there is no such thing as a play making fullback is ridiculous to the extreme. Lockyer played a lot of his games as a 2nd receiver when he was fullback at the Broncos and was directly responsible for a lot of their play calling. To say he was never a playmaker is to blindly refute the obvious.

[Rocky Rhodes]

Is there something stopping a fullback kicking from the same position a 5/8th or halfback kicks from?

The answer is in what you quoted. It is not ideal for a fullback to be kicking. We are not the NFL. Statistics back my position, fullbacks rarely kick. Halfs and hookers do the bulk of kicking.

[elo]

Forget Lockyer....Hunt was doing it all last season, his kicks at the line when it appeared he was bursting on to the ball snagged Winterstein at least 3 tries off memory alone. It's a great option to have a fullback who possesses such ball & kicking skills, adds a dimension in attack - especially close to the oppositions goal line.

I want to see it before I shit all over it.

[Rocky Rhodes]

When a team has the ball, you tend to find the FB is up in the attacking line....not 50m back. I don't agree with your first point

While I'd prefer Mini at FB and Carney at 5/8, Carney can have a kicking role, even if playing FB

No one said 50m's back so why go there. If the fullback is flat in attack then how does he pick his holes to run in. The idea is to have the fullback deep so he can pick and run into the spaces.

And if the pass to the fullback goes astray then the opposition is a good change to pick up the loose ball and score with no one back.

[Rocky Rhodes]

Where does it say that fullbacks have to stand back behind the line when kicking? Why can't he move into the front line much like Lockyer did when he WAS a playmaking Fullback for the Broncos.

Your statement that there is no such thing as a play making fullback is ridiculous to the extreme. Lockyer played a lot of his games as a 2nd receiver when he was fullback at the Broncos and was directly responsible for a lot of their play calling. To say he was never a playmaker is to blindly refute the obvious.

The only thing that is obvious here is that you don't know what a play-maker Is.

A play-maker is someone who holds up the ball looking for someone else deeper to run onto the ball. Now given that a fullback is usually the deepest player on the field, who is he gonna hold up the ball for? Do you expect the in-goal touchy to run onto the ball when a fullback holds it up?

I repeat, lockyer was only a play-maker at five-eighth. Also you need to stop wetting yourself over Lockyer.

[Vasco]

Use your head headless. For starters kicking from the back at fullback usually means the rest of the team is offside so unless they are kicking to themselves then attacking kicks are very limited.

Regarding your other post, Lockyer was never a play-making fullback. You need to get over that idea. He was only a play-maker when at 5/8th. There is no such thing as a play-making fullback.

Watch the 2000 GF again. Lockyer was second receiver quite often.

[Rocky Rhodes]

Watch the 2000 GF again. Lockyer was second receiver quite often.

As a runner, not as a play-maker. Sorry but i can't get around to watching losing GF's.

[Headless Chook]

The only thing that is obvious here is that you don't know what a play-maker Is.

A play-maker is someone who holds up the ball looking for someone else deeper to run onto the ball. Now given that a fullback is usually the deepest player on the field, who is he gonna hold up the ball for? Do you expect the in-goal touchy to run onto the ball when a fullback holds it up?

I repeat, lockyer was only a play-maker at five-eighth. Also you need to stop wetting yourself over Lockyer.

You need to grow up a bit mate. You just don't seem to be able to handle it when people point out that your ideas are actually quite wrong.

Where in the rugby league rule book does it say that a fullback has to be the deepest runner? Lockyer, Brett Hodgson, Preston Campbell, Matty Bowen to name a few are all playmaking fullbacks. They all mix their games up, sometimes they are the deep runner that you alluded to, other times they get into first and second receiver and ball play.

But I wouldn't expect you to know that as you clearly haven't watched any footy over the past 13 seasons. If you had you would have known that playmaking fullbacks do exist and you also would have noticed that in-goal touch judges were canned once the video ref came in.

[Rooster_6]

Use your head headless. For starters kicking from the back at fullback usually means the rest of the team is offside so unless they are kicking to themselves then attacking kicks are very limited.

Regarding your other post, Lockyer was never a play-making fullback. You need to get over that idea. He was only a play-maker when at 5/8th. There is no such thing as a play-making fullback.

Soward kicked from 15-20 metres behind his side all year... Worked for them pretty well. Aslong as Soward gets infront of them there's no worries... Most teams are in an offside position when the ball is kicked these days anyway once the attacker runs 10 metres everyone is back onside and it allows the defending team to hold an even line.

Like Mad Morley I think mini should be fullback and carney 5/8 but it has nothing to do with his kicking game more how he'd adapt to the defensive side of it, that's not 'sitting on he fence' as u like to put it just understanding Smiths thinkIng

[Rocky Rhodes]

Soward kicked from 15-20 metres behind his side all year... Worked for them pretty well. Aslong as Soward gets infront of them there's no worries... Most teams are in an offside position when the ball is kicked these days anyway once the attacker runs 10 metres everyone is back onside and it allows the defending team to hold an even line.

Like Mad Morley I think mini should be fullback and carney 5/8 but it has nothing to do with his kicking game more how he'd adapt to the defensive side of it, that's not 'sitting on he fence' as u like to put it just understanding Smiths thinkIng

But Soward is a five-eighth dude so thanks for proving my point that the half's do most of the kicking.

[Rocky Rhodes]

You need to grow up a bit mate. You just don't seem to be able to handle it when people point out that your ideas are actually quite wrong.

Where in the rugby league rule book does it say that a fullback has to be the deepest runner? Lockyer, Brett Hodgson, Preston Campbell, Matty Bowen to name a few are all playmaking fullbacks. They all mix their games up, sometimes they are the deep runner that you alluded to, other times they get into first and second receiver and ball play.

But I wouldn't expect you to know that as you clearly haven't watched any footy over the past 13 seasons. If you had you would have known that playmaking fullbacks do exist and you also would have noticed that in-goal touch judges were canned once the video ref came in.

Actually i see you as the child having a dummy spit. I have given you lessions in the past but you just can't handle it. Seriously get over your grudge dude, it's only making you look foolish.

I've played football in the halfback position, also played winger and fullback so i am in a better position than most to know the roles of each position.
You obviously only played mini-league where the fullback stands flat like every other position lol

Provide evidence of a playmaking fullback and i'll have no problems saying i got it wrong. In the meantime i'll standby my claims.

[Guest]

Actually i see you as the child having a dummy spit. I have given you lessions in the past but you just can't handle it. Seriously get over your grudge dude, it's only making you look foolish.

I've played football in the halfback position, also played winger and fullback so i am in a better position than most to know the roles of each position.
You obviously only played mini-league where the fullback stands flat like every other position lol

Provide evidence of a playmaking fullback and i'll have no problems saying i got it wrong. In the meantime i'll standby my claims.

Jarryd Hayne would appear to be a "playmaking fullback"

[Rocky Rhodes]

Jarryd Hayne would appear to be a "playmaking fullback"

Does he hold the ball up or put players thru gaps whilst in the line? Hayne maybe has done that playing five-eighth but not as a fullback.

[Guest]

Does he hold the ball up or put players thru gaps whilst in the line? Hayne maybe has done that playing five-eighth but not as a fullback.

Yes, I believe he does

[Rocky Rhodes]

Yes, I believe he does

Evidence? Use youtube or other means or point me to a game i can watch.

Hayne rarely passes the ball, how can he be a playmaker?