JWH out until round 4

[melon....]

i am sorry for expecting an origin player who is on big money, a guy who is meant to be one of the cornerstones of our pack to actually deliver in our colours. What a fool I am.

He can deliver for qld, no doubt about it. It makes his performances in our colours in the last 3 years even more pathetic in comparison.

I think you missed my point. With the exception of Perret and Fitzy...nobody delivered. Youve singled out Myles. You should be laying the boot across the board, and even at the board for their idiotic decisions the past 3 years. Freddo, Myles will feed you plenty of pie this year.

[Guest]

I think you missed my point. With the exception of Perret and Fitzy...nobody delivered. Youve singled out Myles. You should be laying the boot across the board, and even at the board for their idiotic decisions the past 3 years. Freddo, Myles will feed you plenty of pie this year.

i like pies.

[Guest]

Meh, I reckon our halves, along with Perrett and Fitzy, are the only ones who can hold their heads up. gave their all in shit circumstances, which is more than I can say for the rest of the heartless mob

Pearce is very close to being the most overrated player in the NRL, and has done close to nothing to justify the ridiculous wraps that he's gotten. Anasta, whilst I do love his committment and the fact that he actually looks like he gives a shit, is the slowest 5/8 in the NRL and his partnership with Pearce has produced the least potent halves combination in the comp.

[novice chook]

Myles has had a free ride for 3 years from the Roosters - being highly paid and delivering very little other than negative headlines.

But, surprising even myself, I am prepared to give him this season to produce performances something close to what he is capable of for the Roosters.

He has the talent. But that means fark all if he can't manage the commitment, passion and focus for the RW&B.

So far at the Roosters, what he's capable of and what he's produced are poles apart. He has a season of my support to change that, on the proviso that he keeps his nose (and everything else) clean off the field.

In the washup, only Myles himself can ultimately decide whether he chooses to be an asset, rather than a liability.


NC

[melon....]

Myles has had a free ride for 3 years from the Roosters - being highly paid and delivering very little other than negative headlines.

But, surprising even myself, I am prepared to give him this season to produce performances something close to what he is capable of for the Roosters.

He has the talent. But that means fark all if he can't manage the commitment, passion and focus for the RW&B.

So far at the Roosters, what he's capable of and what he's produced are poles apart. He has a season of my support to change that, on the proviso that he keeps his nose (and everything else) clean off the field.

In the washup, only Myles himself can ultimately decide whether he chooses to be an asset, rather than a liability.


NC

Nov, If true about myles now being off teh piss for 3 months, you have to give him the benefit. Completely switching off teh booze, losing 10 kilos, he'll be expected to make 40 tackles at lock and will do so easily. the only bloke capable of replacing Fiztgibbon in that department.

Teh bloke is showing he wants a red hot go at teh Roosters. i think Smith has encouraged and promoted that. I applaud both for the plan.

He has the talent, the agression and the will. He just hasnt given a rats arse to date - because thats what teh enviornment at the club has bred - careless attitudes. They are on the mend, and hopefully Myles as well as others can continue on their new found attitude.


Im willing to back he will.

[Rooster_6]

Pearce is very close to being the most overrated player in the NRL, and has done close to nothing to justify the ridiculous wraps that he's gotten. Anasta, whilst I do love his committment and the fact that he actually looks like he gives a shit, is the slowest 5/8 in the NRL and his partnership with Pearce has produced the least potent halves combination in the comp.

Not potent enough? In what way... Braith has shown it all over his past couple of seasons at the Roosters.

[Cockadoodledoo]

Not potent enough? In what way... Braith has shown it all over his past couple of seasons at the Roosters.

When Anasta or Pearce have the ball in their hands do you hold any great hope that either will slice the defence open or throw a ball to put someone in the clear?

[Guest]

Pearce is very close to being the most overrated player in the NRL, and has done close to nothing to justify the ridiculous wraps that he's gotten. Anasta, whilst I do love his committment and the fact that he actually looks like he gives a shit, is the slowest 5/8 in the NRL and his partnership with Pearce has produced the least potent halves combination in the comp.

Nonsense. In 08 they were one of the best combos in the comp, to the point were they were both selected in Origin. Given they were actually being coached in 08, I feel its a better indication of their talents. Hell, even last year I still think the halves were our best.

[Guest]

Not potent enough? In what way... Braith has shown it all over his past couple of seasons at the Roosters.

In what way? Well, Pearce is a kickaholic who almost never takes the line on, and never really threatens to do much at all, except kick. Even his passing is sub standard

As for Anasta, he tries very hard, but is just so painfully slow.

So, when you combine a 1/2 who does little more than kick, and the slowest 5/8 in the comp, the result is a halves pairing that is not particularly potent. Or threatening, if you wanted another word. Or dangerous

And when you combine that halves pairing with slow centres with no footwork, centres who are forwards, and slow wingers, what do you get?

Tries off kicks

[novice chook]

Who has Mitchell had in the coaching ranks to improve his game since he came into first grade? Anderson and Fittler, both of whom have been shown as failures as far as coaching the Roosters are concerned.

Don't give up on the kid until he's had a season or two under a decent coach with proper support and structures in place. Something he's never had before.

Same goes for a few of our young blokes who have stagnated since coming into grade.

Smith cannot perform miracles overnight, but I'm sure we will see improvement across the park during 2010.


NC

[Guest]

Who has Mitchell had in the coaching ranks to improve his game since he came into first grade? Anderson and Fittler, both of whom have been shown as failures as far as coaching the Roosters are concerned.

Don't give up on the kid until he's had a season or two under a decent coach with proper support and structures in place. Something he's never had before.

Same goes for a few of our young blokes who have stagnated since coming into grade.

Smith cannot perform miracles overnight, but I'm sure we will see improvement across the park during 2010.


NC

Agreed NC, Pearce deserves the chance to play in a properly coached side before being condemned.

As does Myles

But there can surely be no denying that, thus far, Mitch has done very little

And coaching won't make Anasta faster

[theGman]

Agreed NC, Pearce deserves the chance to play in a properly coached side before being condemned.

As does Myles

But there can surely be no denying that, thus far, Mitch has done very little

And coaching won't make Anasta faster

I agree as well. Under Smith's structure and tactics our entire team is starting from scratch. I'm expecting to see a totally different team to 2007-2009 especially in attack. Hopefully the inside ball, kicks on the last tackle and fundamental handling mistakes are a thing of the past.
I reckon coach Smith isn't too afraid to drop players for poor performance especially now that we have a bit of depth albeit young and relatively experienced. What i'm most looking forward to in 2010 is watching the young fringe 1st graders trying their hardest to crack a top spot i.e Cordner, Leilua, Blair, Naughton, Linnett and hopefully Williamson.

TOK, i accept Anasta aint fast but either is Lockyer!

[Guest]

I agree as well. Under Smith's structure and tactics our entire team is starting from scratch. I'm expecting to see a totally different team to 2007-2009 especially in attack. Hopefully the inside ball, kicks on the last tackle and fundamental handling mistakes are a thing of the past.
I reckon coach Smith isn't too afraid to drop players for poor performance especially now that we have a bit of depth albeit young and relatively experienced. What i'm most looking forward to in 2010 is watching the young fringe 1st graders trying their hardest to crack a top spot i.e Cordner, Leilua, Blair, Naughton, Linnett and hopefully Williamson.

TOK, i accept Anasta aint fast but either is Lockyer!

Lockyer is 5 years older, and likely in his last season. And with bung knees he'd still make a race of it with Anasta over 30 yards. How many times has Lockyer speared through the line when the defence charged up on the last expecting a kick?

At the same age, Lockyer would lap Anasta

[Andrew Walker]

I agree as well. Under Smith's structure and tactics our entire team is starting from scratch. I'm expecting to see a totally different team to 2007-2009 especially in attack. Hopefully the inside ball, kicks on the last tackle and fundamental handling mistakes are a thing of the past.
I reckon coach Smith isn't too afraid to drop players for poor performance especially now that we have a bit of depth albeit young and relatively experienced. What i'm most looking forward to in 2010 is watching the young fringe 1st graders trying their hardest to crack a top spot i.e Cordner, Leilua, Blair, Naughton, Linnett and hopefully Williamson.

TOK, i accept Anasta aint fast but either is Lockyer!

Lockyer was once a speed machine.I remember him running Robert Myles down one night at the SFS and making a match saving tackle bundling him out over the sideline metres short. I also remeber him running about 75 meters to score and nobody could get near him in the 04 Tri Nations final against the Poms.Yeah he has slowed down with age but I would still back him in a foot race against Anasta , who sadly due to his horrific injury will be even slower than he was.

[Andrew Walker]

Lockyer is 5 years older, and likely in his last season. And with bung knees he'd still make a race of it with Anasta over 30 yards. How many times has Lockyer speared through the line when the defence charged up on the last expecting a kick?

At the same age, Lockyer would lap Anasta

He still would now