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  • #31
    I want to make one thing clear. I'm not gunna death ride him. Not like Finchy, or big Ruubes, or Dallas Hood.
    i want to see him do well.
    He strikes me as being a bit lazy and way too hard on himself when he makes a mistake.
    maybe it was second year syndrome?

    it wasn't impressed with him in games where we needed a win and needed some impact. He might have all the skills but does he have the rugby league brain and the killer instinct?

    the Warriors reject wasn't meant to be anything more than a pisstake.
    thats why I have to explain it. I know his pedigree.
    barbarian ......arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!!!!!!!

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    • #32
      I'm not worried about the bombs, his defence or his attack. He is probably equal or better than Mini in most cases.
      Mini had his problems taking bombs, picking up a rolling ball and couldn't pass to save his life.
      But the one thing that Mini gave us that won us games and even the premiership was his ability to organise our defensive line.
      This is where my concerns lie with RTS. It will take him a while to be as good as Mini was.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by BUDDY View Post
        I'm not worried about the bombs, his defence or his attack. He is probably equal or better than Mini in most cases.
        Mini had his problems taking bombs, picking up a rolling ball and couldn't pass to save his life.
        But the one thing that Mini gave us that won us games and even the premiership was his ability to organise our defensive line.
        This is where my concerns lie with RTS. It will take him a while to be as good as Mini was.
        Mini was the best bomb taker in the game, by a mile, bar none. The rest of your post I agree with. Particularly his inability to field grubbers.

        I do hope tho that when you talk about organizing the defensive line you are not including his last line defense ��. Mini was one of the best turnstiles in the business in my opinion. It honestly got to the stage there where I would just laugh. I mean, what else could you do. I can only kick the cat so many times ��. I still loved the guy tho.
        Embrace the Hate! JC

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        • #34
          Originally posted by John Corey View Post
          Mini was the best bomb taker in the game, by a mile, bar none. The rest of your post I agree with. Particularly his inability to field grubbers.

          I do hope tho that when you talk about organizing the defensive line you are not including his last line defense ��. Mini was one of the best turnstiles in the business in my opinion. It honestly got to the stage there where I would just laugh. I mean, what else could you do. I can only kick the cat so many times ��. I still loved the guy tho.
          I was referring to setting the line. Mini wasn't the best defender but our defence in the last couple of years had a lot to do with his organisation.

          We will agree to disagree on the bomb taking. Mini may have looked spectacular when he took one but he dropped plenty simple ones. I am sure he dropped a crucial one in the Cowboys semi and I can't recall if he did the same against Penrith. RTS has also dropped simple ones hence the "equal" bit

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          • #35
            Mini caught way more bombs than he dropped!!

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            • #36
              I believe Mini's support play is also superior to RTS' at this stage.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by JAF View Post
                I believe Mini's support play is also superior to RTS' at this stage.
                Mini's support play was good in terms of getting in good positions, his hands just let him down far too often.

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                • #38
                  Sure but what also became very evident was his experience.
                  In his last two years at the club he had lost his speed. He had lost his power. He had lost his agility.
                  Yet he still held his own. He was better than the two previous years before the last two.

                  So for mine experience,.............gamesmanship, field position, leadership and resilience counted for way more than a flashy sidestep and some speed off the mark.

                  Like it or not we are gunna miss Mini.
                  barbarian ......arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!!!!!!!

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                  • #39
                    He could certainly do with some more mongrel. He's got that Christian nice guy thing happening. You need to staunch up if you're carting it back. Fergo would be my choice for number 1. Keep Sheck on the wing until he gets a crack in the halves.

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                    • #40
                      I love the covering tackle he made on a flying Fergo a few years back.
                      I'd prefer Fergo at FB. Potentially an Inglis.

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                      • #41
                        You should be sent to the corner for that one.

                        4got to quote, don't care.

                        "staunch in returning the ball"

                        LOL

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                        • #42
                          I don't get the Flake for fullback love at all. The one and only time he played there for the faiders he had a total shocker under the high ball.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by mightyrooster View Post
                            I don't get the Flake for fullback love at all. The one and only time he played there for the faiders he had a total shocker under the high ball.
                            It's the preconceived idea that all good 3/4s can be good fullbacks because so many before them have made the switch successfully. Mini, Hayne, Inglis, Slater... The list goes on but the reality is they were all fullbacks in juniors they were just forced to play on the wing or centres when they came into first grade because that's where the opportunity popped up.

                            The list of genuine wingers and centres who have made a successful transition to fullback is very small and not that impressive.

                            People underestimate just how different the roles are.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
                              It's the preconceived idea that all good 3/4s can be good fullbacks because so many before them have made the switch successfully. Mini, Hayne, Inglis, Slater... The list goes on but the reality is they were all fullbacks in juniors they were just forced to play on the wing or centres when they came into first grade because that's where the opportunity popped up.

                              The list of genuine wingers and centres who have made a successful transition to fullback is very small and not that impressive.

                              People underestimate just how different the roles are.
                              Bang on R_6...I think people believe Blake will make the successful transition because he has the stature of and plays like Inglis when GI played in the centres. However as you pointed out GI, Mini, Slater, etc were out and out Fullbacks coming through the lower grades. I am pretty sure GI debuted at Fullback for Storm when Slater was either playing SOO or injured.

                              Blake is an out and out centre or winger and as Mighty Rooster pointed out his one outing at Fullback was every bit as successful as Freddie's Anasta at fullback experiment.
                              Originally posted by boogie

                              "There's a lot of people competing for title of dumbest chookpen member such as Tommy S, Rusty, Johnny, ROC, Tobin but without a doubt you are the worst, youre thick as a brick christ this is the dumbest thing I've read in a long time you should go back to supporting the panthers"

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
                                It's the preconceived idea that all good 3/4s can be good fullbacks because so many before them have made the switch successfully. Mini, Hayne, Inglis, Slater... The list goes on but the reality is they were all fullbacks in juniors they were just forced to play on the wing or centres when they came into first grade because that's where the opportunity popped up.

                                The list of genuine wingers and centres who have made a successful transition to fullback is very small and not that impressive.

                                People underestimate just how different the roles are.
                                Pretty sure Mini was always a winger.
                                Born and bred in the eastern suburbs.

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