Is it just me...or do the Roosters get a raw deal from Refs?

[Guest]

A raw deal? Nah!

The following outlines the percentage of games in which we have won the penalties over the past 10 years:

2009: 14.58% (The lowest % of penalties won by a team in 30 YEARS)
2008: 28.85%
2007: 50.00%
2006: 43.75%
2005: 50.00%
2004: 57.41%
2003: 38.89%
2002: 46.43%
2001: 46.30%
2000: 43.33%

Thanks for that info, if I was a conspiracy theorist im sure i could read something into that........... but its not just the penalty count im talking about, knock ons, forward passes. and incorrect called 40/20s have add3ed to our woes.

[elo]

Any team down the bottom of the ladder cops a raw deal with the refs. Its self perpetuating....we lose the penalty count, then get a rep as an ill-disciplined team so refs look closer at what we do compared to our opponents and we get nit-picked out of the game.

Nope, Sharkies ended with a +22 penalty count differential last season...we had -50 (over 30 worse than anyone else) and some of the penalties in matches were utter bs IMO. The difference is Stuart constantly bags Finch throughout the season, attack after attack including emails all last season from Sticky to Finch. Freddy on the other hand didn't even speak to Finch once.

There is no way ever anyone will convince me the Sharks were 72 penalties better off in discipline last season, sorry - that's bullshit.

[Vasco]

A raw deal? Nah!

The following outlines the percentage of games in which we have won the penalties over the past 10 years:

2009: 14.58% (The lowest % of penalties won by a team in 30 YEARS)
2008: 28.85%
2007: 50.00%
2006: 43.75%
2005: 50.00%
2004: 57.41%
2003: 38.89%
2002: 46.43%
2001: 46.30%
2000: 43.33%

The percentage of back breakers is what kills us. Easy to give us 3 or 4 penalties towards the end of a game to make it look even.

[Danish]

We certainly get pinged a lot more than any other team.

Its clearly an act of bias by the referees, however I think that we have brought it on ourselves with a couple seasons of poor discipline. We have played dumb around the ruck for several years and now refs are looking for it and penalising us more severely than others.

Think of us as Morley and the refs as the judiciary. We let a few too many drift high and now they are pinging us for everything.

[TheLoneRooster]

A raw deal? Nah!

The following outlines the percentage of games in which we have won the penalties over the past 10 years:

2009: 14.58% (The lowest % of penalties won by a team in 30 YEARS)
2008: 28.85%
2007: 50.00%

The 2008 and 2009 stats are certainly a bit of an eye opener and so are elo's stats about the penalty differential. As others have alluded to, the one thing that these stats don't tell you is the nature of the penalties such as:
• who has the ball
- when in possession - e.g., Mason's "too quick" play the ball FFS
- when defending and a penalty is conceded on the fourth or fifth tackle
• what the field position is
• whether it is a mandatory or discretionary penalty
- the Roosters copped plenty of poor discretionary penalties
• consistency of rule application
- this drove me mad

Certain penalties at certain times of the game have more effect than if those same penalties were given at other times and in this area I think the Roosters suffered. I hope that things change for the better this year.

[Cockadoodledoo]

Any team down the bottom of the ladder cops a raw deal with the refs. Its self perpetuating....we lose the penalty count, then get a rep as an ill-disciplined team so refs look closer at what we do compared to our opponents and we get nit-picked out of the game.

I don't really buy that, we came 4th in 2008 and won about 7 penalty counts.. The Sharks won well over half the penalty counts last year, the Eels in the first half of the season when struggling won almost all of theirs..

[The Axe]

A raw deal? Nah!

The following outlines the percentage of games in which we have won the penalties over the past 10 years:

2009: 14.58% (The lowest % of penalties won by a team in 30 YEARS)
2008: 28.85%
2007: 50.00%
2006: 43.75%
2005: 50.00%
2004: 57.41%
2003: 38.89%
2002: 46.43%
2001: 46.30%
2000: 43.33%

S66,
What is the source of these statistics?

[novice chook]

Last year our side was so slow and lazy in getting off the tackled player even I would admit that a lot of the penalties against us were justified.

We were unfit, undisciplined and penalised when we tried to slow the game down to a pace our blokes could cope with.

When the team's attitude and fitness improves, we'll win more penalty counts.


NC

[Guest]

No its just you.......

A weak team blames the ref.....a good team doesn't give away the penalties in the first place...

[Guest]

No its just you.......

A weak team blames the ref.....a good team doesn't give away the penalties in the first place...

Another moron post

[Guest]

Another moron post

Well you would know.....

Piss of troll.....

[Guest]

Well you would know.....

Piss of troll.....

Yeah...im a troll.....but you keep posting to my thread.......just ignore them in future.....you have nothing worthwhile to contribute anyway.

[Guest]

Yeah...im a troll.....but you keep posting to my thread.......just ignore them in future.....you have nothing worthwhile to contribute anyway.

But you're fun....Off season and trolls go together....

Plus I always like to talk to the "special" people.......and so far there is no one more "special" than you....

[Guest]

But you're fun....Off season and trolls go together....

Plus I always like to talk to the "special" people.......and so far there is no one more "special" than you....

yeah, im having fun with you too.....

[Guest]

Good stuff....its not like you have anything else to do......