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  • #16
    Originally posted by The Mack View Post
    I definitely agree.

    Myles is needed FAR more at prop, than backrow.

    IMO our backrow should be:

    11. Anasta
    12. Aubusson
    13. Nuuausala

    15. Conn

    The way we should work it is:

    - Anasta plays 80 minutes in both attack and defense on the left side of the field
    - Aubusson plays 80 minutes in attack on the right side and defending in the centre of the field
    - Nuuausala/Conn play 40 minutes each, attacking in the centre and defending on the right side of the field

    So in attack:

    Anasta <---> Nuuausala/Conn <---> Aubusson

    ...and in defense:

    Anasta <---> Aubusson <---> Nuuausala/Conn

    This way, we utilize Aubusson and Anasta for their fringe attack ability and ball skills out wide linking our halves to the centres, while Nuuausala (and Conn when he comes on to replace him) attack straight up the guts, hitting lines at angles and looking for offloads for Minichiello.

    In defense, we need Aubusson in the centre as a roaming cover-defender, making use of his mobility and outstanding workrate, while Anasta and Nuuausala/Conn can protect the centres in defense like they have done quite well for most of this season.

    Smith names the right team usually, but I do not agree with Nuuausala at prop and Myles at lock. Myles is too sluggish and immobile for the backrow, even with his weight loss, and his lack of ball skills is an issue. At prop, he can just bash, barge and tackle like he does best. Nuuausala, on the other hand, struggled when shifted back to prop with the purpose of metres, but when he was hitting holes and running lines as a lock-forward, seeking out offloads, he was outstanding. Conn does a less flashy but still very good job.

    Anasta - 80 minutes
    Aubusson - 80 minutes
    Nuuausala - first 20 minutes, last 20 minutes
    Conn - middle 40 minutes
    Friend - first 30 minutes, last 20 minutes
    Watts - middle 30 minutes

    That is 4 interchanges down (getting Nuuausala off the field and back on, getting Friend off the field and back on). That means we will have 6 remaining interchanges specifically for Ryles, Myles, Hargreaves and Kennedy. That is the advantage of a fit and mobile second row.

    If we are in a situation where their defense is shot, we can leave both Conn and Nuuausala off the field, and have Friend at lock and Watts at hooker, run the bigger packs ragged if needed.

    8. Ryles
    9. Friend
    10. Myles
    11. Anasta
    12. Aubusson
    13. Nuuausala/Conn

    14. Watts
    15. Conn/Nuuausala
    16. Hargreaves
    17. Kennedy

    reserve props: Lama Tasi, Tinirau Arona, Mose Masoe
    reserve backrowers: Anthony Cherrington, Tom Symonds, Aiden Guerra
    reserve utilities: Ben Jones (fullback/centre/half/hooker), Jerome Leolahi (centre/hooker/backrow)

    Leolahi offers a lot more than Kouparitsas, actually has surprisingly decent ball skills, and can do the exact same job but better if Watts doesn't work out.

    The forward pack looks great. It is the backline that needs to click.
    ****ing good analysis dude.

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    • #17
      That's impressive Mack.

      You put a lot of thought into that.

      The interesting thing will be to see what happens with Cherro. Smithy has huge wraps on him.

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      • #18
        No doubting Myles is our best forward and I'd argue one of if not the best backrower in the comp when you take into consideration his SOO form.

        Whilst his attack seemed to decline with his injury his defence didn't. Don't underrate the job that he did on Greg Bird (along with Anasta) in that Semi Final, it went a long way to us winning.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by The Mack View Post
          I definitely agree.

          Myles is needed FAR more at prop, than backrow.

          IMO our backrow should be:

          11. Anasta
          12. Aubusson
          13. Nuuausala

          15. Conn

          The way we should work it is:

          - Anasta plays 80 minutes in both attack and defense on the left side of the field
          - Aubusson plays 80 minutes in attack on the right side and defending in the centre of the field
          - Nuuausala/Conn play 40 minutes each, attacking in the centre and defending on the right side of the field

          So in attack:

          Anasta <---> Nuuausala/Conn <---> Aubusson

          ...and in defense:

          Anasta <---> Aubusson <---> Nuuausala/Conn

          This way, we utilize Aubusson and Anasta for their fringe attack ability and ball skills out wide linking our halves to the centres, while Nuuausala (and Conn when he comes on to replace him) attack straight up the guts, hitting lines at angles and looking for offloads for Minichiello.

          In defense, we need Aubusson in the centre as a roaming cover-defender, making use of his mobility and outstanding workrate, while Anasta and Nuuausala/Conn can protect the centres in defense like they have done quite well for most of this season.

          Smith names the right team usually, but I do not agree with Nuuausala at prop and Myles at lock. Myles is too sluggish and immobile for the backrow, even with his weight loss, and his lack of ball skills is an issue. At prop, he can just bash, barge and tackle like he does best. Nuuausala, on the other hand, struggled when shifted back to prop with the purpose of metres, but when he was hitting holes and running lines as a lock-forward, seeking out offloads, he was outstanding. Conn does a less flashy but still very good job.

          Anasta - 80 minutes
          Aubusson - 80 minutes
          Nuuausala - first 20 minutes, last 20 minutes
          Conn - middle 40 minutes
          Friend - first 30 minutes, last 20 minutes
          Watts - middle 30 minutes

          That is 4 interchanges down (getting Nuuausala off the field and back on, getting Friend off the field and back on). That means we will have 6 remaining interchanges specifically for Ryles, Myles, Hargreaves and Kennedy. That is the advantage of a fit and mobile second row.

          If we are in a situation where their defense is shot, we can leave both Conn and Nuuausala off the field, and have Friend at lock and Watts at hooker, run the bigger packs ragged if needed.

          8. Ryles
          9. Friend
          10. Myles
          11. Anasta
          12. Aubusson
          13. Nuuausala/Conn

          14. Watts
          15. Conn/Nuuausala
          16. Hargreaves
          17. Kennedy

          reserve props: Lama Tasi, Tinirau Arona, Mose Masoe
          reserve backrowers: Anthony Cherrington, Tom Symonds, Aiden Guerra
          reserve utilities: Ben Jones (fullback/centre/half/hooker), Jerome Leolahi (centre/hooker/backrow)

          Leolahi offers a lot more than Kouparitsas, actually has surprisingly decent ball skills, and can do the exact same job but better if Watts doesn't work out.

          The forward pack looks great. It is the backline that needs to click.
          I disagree with a lot there.

          Firstly I think Maubs is too important to our right fringe defence. He's the best defender we have and saved out arses countless times. Skid makes too many poor decisions not to have him there, a great fringe defender is much more valuable than a great ruck defender imo. Not only that but he plays best when he remains fresh, if he was a tight runner then I'd have no problems with him making 40+ tackles in the middle of the field but he's not.

          As for Myles well he's the best cover defender we have and he has to be in the middle third of the field and will be there regardless of whether he's playing prop or lock I'd even argue there's almost no difference in the two positions at all these days when you look at players like Gallen. Not only that but Myles is the best forward we have, if playing him at lock means we can get 60+ minutes out of him then that's a much better option than getting 40-50 in the front row especially with such a light weight second row pairing.

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          • #20
            How Nate Myles only got 9 Dally M points this year is well and truly beyond my comprehension.
            When you trust your television
            what you get is what you got
            Cause when they own the information
            they can bend it all they want

            John Mayer

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Andrew Walker View Post
              How Nate Myles only got 9 Dally M points this year is well and truly beyond my comprehension.
              Forwards just don't get points. I don't think a forward has ever taken out he award actually..

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              • #22
                Good post JT,

                he looked busted with an SI injury to me.
                My guess is that he has disc issues as well.

                His season was on par with Thaiday.
                Both immense pre origin.Both busted post.
                barbarian ......arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!!!!!!!

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                • #23
                  i wonder how nate would look partnering skid in the centres? especially if we have too many backrowers?

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                  • #24
                    Good thread tobin,

                    In the early parts of our season Nate would've chased down a blue heeler on a stick any day, and win.

                    Towards the later part of our season, the blue heeler would've beaten him.

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                    • #25
                      Nate Myles speed is very deceptive because he takes a while to wind up. He went alright chasing Cooper last weekend.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Holmes View Post
                        Good thread tobin,

                        In the early parts of our season Nate would've chased down a blue heeler on a stick any day, and win.

                        Towards the later part of our season, the blue heeler would've beaten him.
                        Not Matt Cooper on GF day....

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
                          Not Matt Cooper on GF day....
                          No questioning his heart and passion.

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                          • #28
                            Before the end of State of Origin (not including Origin matches):

                            14 games, made 100+ metres in 9 of them, played 65+ minutes in 8 of them

                            After the end of State of Origin:

                            11 games, made 100+ metres in 3 of them, played 65+ minutes in 3 of them

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by trewhella View Post
                              Good post JT,

                              he looked busted with an SI injury to me.
                              My guess is that he has disc issues as well.

                              His season was on par with Thaiday.
                              Both immense pre origin.Both busted post.
                              Id say he needs to go under the knife.

                              Id say there are a few others that also qualify.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by The Fan View Post
                                Id say he needs to go under the knife.

                                Id say there are a few others that also qualify.
                                Ahhhh, you're back and I see the knife thing remains.
                                How about you hypothetically use them on one of the GF officials - take your pick, I'm not fussy.
                                "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."

                                Thomas Jefferson

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