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  • #91
    Originally posted by fred68 View Post
    Crap that he doesn't like smith. He loves the coach and he loves our club.

    I'd expect some good announcement this week hopefully.
    cheers Fred, your mail is always good.
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    • #92
      Originally posted by BigMike View Post
      So we should make him one of the highest paid centres in the game because of one breakout season and the fact that we won't get a suitable replacement next year ?

      I wouldn't risk such a large portion of a salary cap on a player that is not a part of the spine, or brings off-field contributions to benefit the team (similar to Petero).

      The only centre in the game at this moment who could come anywhere near that figure would be Jamie Lyon. Inglis would be a distant second.

      SKD is playing great football ... outside arguably the best halves combination in the NRL. How many tries/LB/TA would Lyon, Inglis, Lawrence or even Tonga snag playing on that fringe outside Pearce/Carney ?

      Someone mentioned it earlier - if you're going to pay SKD 300+, what are you going to pay Pearce or Carney ? They are by far more important to the team than SKD. Have to balance the squad somehow.

      Maybe, in a few years SKD can prove that he is worth that much with consistant performances, but in my eyes you cannot justify paying anywhere near 300+ for him at this particular point in time.
      Carney whatever he wants, Pearce has a lot to prove. All the centres you mentioned would command more than $300K with the exception of Tonga and I would reckon he would be on close to that at the Cowboys. Your other comments are laughable.. Tonga played outside a guy named Jonathon Thurston, you may have heard of him, he doesn't go too badly... Lawrence alongside Benji Marshall, plays alright too.. Inglis alongside Cameron Smith, Cooper Cronk, Billy Slater.. not bad players that mob...

      The only one I agree with sort of is Lyon who had some inexperienced yet talented halves alongside him but he is a vastly more experienced player.. SKD will get offers of > $400K a year from several clubs.. If we offer less than $300K then his improvement will be seen somewhere else, not at the Roosters.
      Last edited by Cockadoodledoo; 03-08-2011, 12:20 AM.
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      • #93
        as most know i have been a champion of SKD since day dot at the club but this predicament has me a little caught in two minds. As much as i want him to stay, what cost could this have on the retention of other players in the side?

        To my mind we have 3 capable deputies to SKD to fill the 2 centre voids in J-Carney, Linnett and Leilua in particular. With the likes of Blair and Moga coming through in particular i just fear that we may be stretching our resources a little thin if we re-sign him for someone around 300+k when we already have the likes of myles, pearce, carney already on those kinds of salaries long term and with the sort of talent we have like friend, kennedy, leilua, cherrington, cordner etc, a lot of these guys will demand decent pay packets down the track as well and dont forget that the vetrans bonus is helping us squeeze mini in for a lot less that what his evetual replacement will demand so are we tieing up too much big money in a few players? This would be my only concern but with o'sullivan in particular on board and politis' experience and negotiating ability on these matters I will trust their judgement on how to manage a young and emerging side like ours where contracts are only going to increase going forward with few players vacating the roster to accomodate such pay rises.

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        • #94
          I think SKD will sign for a fair price, we gave him his shot and turned him into an international and last year he was the best centre in the game.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by roz View Post
            as most know i have been a champion of SKD since day dot at the club but this predicament has me a little caught in two minds. As much as i want him to stay, what cost could this have on the retention of other players in the side?

            To my mind we have 3 capable deputies to SKD to fill the 2 centre voids in J-Carney, Linnett and Leilua in particular. With the likes of Blair and Moga coming through in particular i just fear that we may be stretching our resources a little thin if we re-sign him for someone around 300+k when we already have the likes of myles, pearce, carney already on those kinds of salaries long term and with the sort of talent we have like friend, kennedy, leilua, cherrington, cordner etc, a lot of these guys will demand decent pay packets down the track as well and dont forget that the vetrans bonus is helping us squeeze mini in for a lot less that what his evetual replacement will demand so are we tieing up too much big money in a few players? This would be my only concern but with o'sullivan in particular on board and politis' experience and negotiating ability on these matters I will trust their judgement on how to manage a young and emerging side like ours where contracts are only going to increase going forward with few players vacating the roster to accomodate such pay rises.
            All extremely valid points....but at the end of the day, I have faith that Uncle Nick knows how to make a deal.......

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            • #96
              Originally posted by fred68 View Post
              Crap that he doesn't like smith. He loves the coach and he loves our club.

              I'd expect some good announcement this week hopefully.
              That's good enough for me.

              Thanks Fred.
              Loved by few, hated by many, respected by all.

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              • #97
                Fingers crossed ahe does re-sign, last night when i asked him for a photo, I asked him straight up :

                When are you going to re-sign and he said

                "hopefully i'll strike a deal sooner than later"

                PS: His chick is awesome haha =)

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by phantom View Post
                  I have faith that Uncle Nick knows how to make a deal.......
                  He's a wog ! he was making deals with the Dr's about the fees they charged to give birth to him when he came out of the womb !!!!

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                  At a football club, there’s a holy trinity – the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don’t come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques.
                  Originally posted by Andy Raymond Commentating Souffs V Manly 18/04/09
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                  • #99
                    The rumour around at the launch is that he will get the 4 years.

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                    • Originally posted by roz View Post
                      as most know i have been a champion of SKD since day dot at the club but this predicament has me a little caught in two minds. As much as i want him to stay, what cost could this have on the retention of other players in the side?

                      To my mind we have 3 capable deputies to SKD to fill the 2 centre voids in J-Carney, Linnett and Leilua in particular. With the likes of Blair and Moga coming through in particular i just fear that we may be stretching our resources a little thin if we re-sign him for someone around 300+k when we already have the likes of myles, pearce, carney already on those kinds of salaries long term and with the sort of talent we have like friend, kennedy, leilua, cherrington, cordner etc, a lot of these guys will demand decent pay packets down the track as well and dont forget that the vetrans bonus is helping us squeeze mini in for a lot less that what his evetual replacement will demand so are we tieing up too much big money in a few players? This would be my only concern but with o'sullivan in particular on board and politis' experience and negotiating ability on these matters I will trust their judgement on how to manage a young and emerging side like ours where contracts are only going to increase going forward with few players vacating the roster to accomodate such pay rises.
                      I hear what you are saying roz, but there comes a time when you have to sign to win the comp now rather than possibly win the comp in the next 3-5 years IF the talent being nutured reaches its potential.

                      SKD is one of those telented youngsters who IS reaching his potential. Sign him up and lets have a permiership this year or next!

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                      • Originally posted by Fleabag Fletch View Post
                        I hear what you are saying roz, but there comes a time when you have to sign to win the comp now rather than possibly win the comp in the next 3-5 years IF the talent being nutured reaches its potential.

                        SKD is one of those telented youngsters who IS reaching his potential. Sign him up and lets have a permiership this year or next!
                        hear hear. just trying to put another spin on it but dont get me wrong, i have always liked SKD (those seasoned wallsters from both walls will be able to attest to this as the 2 main arguments i have involved myself in over my time around these forums were with respect to soward and SKD). At the end of the day him signing will make me more happy than him leaving but we have to understand that even if he leaves, although hard to stomach at first, i think we have the immediate depth (carney, linnett, leilua) to accomodate his departure and instead of putting the 400 odd k into him we may all of a sudden have those sorts of funds to persue to the likes of hayne or gardner in a couple of years when mini ends his tenure.....

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                        • Originally posted by supermario View Post
                          He's a wog ! he was making deals with the Dr's about the fees they charged to give birth to him when he came out of the womb !!!!
                          If he's a wog, when he was born ....he smacked the nurses on the a*se !

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                          • Originally posted by Cockadoodledoo View Post
                            Carney whatever he wants, Pearce has a lot to prove. All the centres you mentioned would command more than $300K with the exception of Tonga and I would reckon he would be on close to that at the Cowboys. Your other comments are laughable.. Tonga played outside a guy named Jonathon Thurston, you may have heard of him, he doesn't go too badly... Lawrence alongside Benji Marshall, plays alright too.. Inglis alongside Cameron Smith, Cooper Cronk, Billy Slater.. not bad players that mob...

                            The only one I agree with sort of is Lyon who had some inexperienced yet talented halves alongside him but he is a vastly more experienced player.. SKD will get offers of > $400K a year from several clubs.. If we offer less than $300K then his improvement will be seen somewhere else, not at the Roosters.
                            I'll play along.

                            Without looking back i am almost sure i said halves COMBINATION when crediting SKD's success last season.

                            I've heard of Thurston, but i am not sure that you have ever heard of his halves partner - a mr. Grant Rovelli - arguably the worst 6 in the comp last year.

                            Benji Marshall rings a bell, but that 30 year old man, pretending to be 20, who partners him in the halves is far from a world beater. Robert Lui is his name, incase you have never heard of him ( not that i blame you, not exactly a player that is remembered).

                            Todd Carney's form last year eclipsed both Thurston and Marshall. To add to that, Pearce had his best season to date and ranked in the top 3 in most attacking stats.

                            If SKD is getting offers of 400k plus from other clubs then so be it. I hope we don't fall into the trap of a bidding war. Lets not make out as if he is a sure thing based on his breakout season. 350+k a season is a big gamble on a centre with one great season behind him.

                            One day he might be worth marquee money, not now.

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                            • If anything,a back ended deal? based on performance!

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                              • Was just browsing on the grandstand forum and someone said that he has signed for 4 years before the season launch and will be official this week. Can anyone confirm?

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