If Carney was drinking .....

[Guest]

There is no suggestion that Carney was drinking inappropriately or that he was involved in assaulting anybody. Lets make that clear...

It could be the case that Watts and Carney had 1 beer together while they chatted about how it sux being out. Afterwards (and unrelated) Watts assaulted his wife. Just having a beer with somebody doesn't connect you with a serious crime!

no but it shows you have a much more serious alcohol problem then once thought and that time away from the game is needed to get your life back together.

[Johnny Tobin]

I don't want him sacked - for purely selfish reasons.

[Andrew Walker]

no but it shows you have a much more serious alcohol problem then once thought and that time away from the game is needed to get your life back together.

Time away from the game and sacking someone are completely different things

[BUDDY]

Can someone please lead me to the report that states Carney was drinking alcohol.
Has this been 100% determined?
I'm sure you can buy lemon, lime and bitters at a club while watching the football.
Until I hear that he was drinking alcohol then all it is is that he was out with a team mate watching the team play a game. Why would he drink in a public place?
If Watts did nothing to his girlfriend then Carney would not be in the news.
Too many times people jump to conclusions. Let the truth come out in the next 24 hours before we hang the guy.

[ism22]

When did Carney or the club say that he was quitting the beers?

IMO he should have simply stayed off them (but I reckon all professional sports people should have a no beer/smokes/drugs policy for performance more than anything.) If not drinking can get that extra bit of performance out of players who are paid to win then it's a no brainer for me.

[Big Poppa Pump]

So then he is dammed if he did and dammed if he didnt

In my eyes yes.

[Andrew Walker]

In my eyes yes.

Life can be so unfair

[Guest]

When did Carney or the club say that he was quitting the beers?

Anyone?

I can't believe people actually want Carney sacked for the horrible crime of being mentioned in a Rothfield article.

Here is the list of stupid things Carney has done while on the drink since coming to our club:

-try to light a fart on fire

Here is the list of things Carney has done on the football field since coming to our club:
-take us to a GF
-win a Dally M

Give the guy a bloody chance. Since coming here I have seen nothing to suggest that he is out of control the second he touches a beer.

Obviously I'm leaving out the drink driving incident, because that didn't occur while on the drink. It was an error in judgement but not one that was influenced by alcohol imo, given it happened the next day.

[bondi-boy]

should he be sacked?

NO!

A smart lawyer could make a case that if he's had a drink, [alcoholic addiction is not easy to beat], it's the club and the NRL's fault for not insisting he live with an older, non-drinking person.

Would he be the first person attending AA to have failed at their first attempt?
Answer: no.

If the NRL is going to 'lynch' him and sack him from his job/career, [oh how they loved to bask in the glory of his achievements last year], for falling at the first hurdle in the long and difficult race, then it should take a long hard look at the way it's doing things.

Playing 'God' with young people's lives is not something to be taken lightly...if one wants to have a clear conscience when standing at the Pearly Gates for judgement.

Gallop and co should ask the Salvation Army if anyone battling drug addiction, [and alcohol is a drug], and a complete change in lifestyle is successful at their first attempt.

[Geohood]

Was Carney ACTUALLY drinking last night?

[bondi-boy]

Was Carney ACTUALLY drinking last night?

Yet to be established.

[Spanner in the works]

Yet to be established.

But apparently should be sacked....

[Cockadoodledoo]

It comes back to the fact alcohol is addictive, and the club should have had better minders for him.

Professional sport is not a place for an addict.

[Spanner in the works]

Professional sport is not a place for an addict.

And society isn't a place for thugs. Yet we still let people like Watts, Bird and Inglis out.

[Cockadoodledoo]

I will say common sense says Carney and Watts should have been with the squad last night attending the game. I cannot believe management would not have Carney on an extremely tight leash right now.