If Carney was drinking .....

[Billy Gunn]

I want more info, based on the facts at hand Carneyn has nothing to answer for but if he promised his club he was off the drink and got smashed he should explain himself to his team mates, coach and supporters.

[elo]

Are others players drinking alcohol?

Any of them undiagnosed alcoholics?


Drinking alcohol is legal.

Player welfare comes first bondi, if he's found to be drinking whilst attending AA he has lost control of his life, hence his welfare is in danger and hence he will be stood down whilst it's sorted out.

[bondi-boy]

For maximum performance, players should not really be drinking alcohol during the playing season, except maybe one small drink with dinner every other day or once a week...at most.

[Guest]

A self-confessed alcoholic drinking means he has to be stood down immediately OVP, club has no choice really as mentally that means he's lost control of his life. I'd be shocked if he was sacked over it though - that could send the guy right over the cliff which would be negligent on the club's behalf.

You're right about what would happen to him if the club sacked him. Since when has helping a person overcome his demons by totally ****ing up their entire life ever worked? If you dont believe sacking him Won't **** up his whole life forever, then you are delusional. This mentality is what's wrong with the entire human race.

[trewhella]

Word. He wont be sacked.

Rules for some and rules for others.
Especially when you win a dally m.

[bondi-boy]

Player welfare comes first bondi, if he's found to be drinking whilst attending AA he has lost control of his life, hence his welfare is in danger and hence he will be stood down whilst it's sorted out.

AA members sometimes don't live up to what's expected...and can/have to 'start again'.

Don't know about 'lost control of his life', but I'd be giving his injury a break from training and matches anyway.

At 2 wins from 6 matches, and barring a miracle 2 from 7 after the Dragons game...we're not going anywhere.


It's the "no friends/flatmates except party boys/drinking boys" and no older mentors 24/7 that are the problems...IMO.

Chaperone...paid by the club or him.

[trewhella]

[QUOTE=bondi-boy;115822]He's on a program, is attending AA, and the Salvation Army is helping him.



What, he is getting hampers???

Fark that

[Kingbilly]

Here is some points I think relate to all this crap.

First of all I haven't heard a great deal, except two people I know that probably do know (one being JT, the other a non poster) are concerned for for Carney's future at the club then I am concerned, neither are your typical internet idiot.

I would dearly love Carney to be ok and comeback and play like genius.

I have done my fair share of silly things and battled my fair share of demons, but there comes a time when you have to take responsibility for your actions no matter what your addictions of problems are.

I am sick and tired of people always blaming other people of other things and its never their fault, well **** it, in this case these players are getting paid bucket loads of cash and they need to grow up. That applies to alot more players than Carney

[Guest]

He's on a program, is attending AA, and the Salvation Army is helping him.




What, he is getting hampers???

Fark that

He needs a good witch i reckon

[Billy Gunn]

Word. He wont be sacked.

Rules for some and rules for others.
Especially when you win a dally m.

Very true

[Guest]

I predict that this whole thing is speculation and bull and Todd lines up against the Dragons.

[bondi-boy]

Word. He wont be sacked.

Rules for some and rules for others.
Especially when you win a dally m.

Did he assault anyone, male or female?
Did he urinate in public?...[Mason, Gallen, Watmough and others]
Did he break the law in any way?

Answer: NO.


Cold beer tastes very nice to some people, so I'm told, hard to give up.
Makes life's worries disappear for a while.

Rehab is difficult...as shown in the movie 28 Days:

Can't be going back to the boozing friends, gotta stay away from temptation, change one's life.
That's very difficult also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BUSPNN8Svw

28 days

'Everything has to be different'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzND8...eature=related

28 days classroom session

[Rocky Rhodes]

The thing that has me really perplexed, given that Carney has his problems and is skating on the thinnest of ice and is a cat that has used 8 of his lives already, I can't understand how the club does not have this kid on the tightest of leashes ?
They should be sitting on him, especially given that he is not playing at the moment and does not have an upcoming game to focus on.
Instead he's given the room to hang around a notorious trouble maker whose antecedants the club would be well aware of !

What do the powers that be at our club do when they go out for the night, give their kids some matches and tell them to amuse themselves for the evening ?

Granted he is an adult and is supposed to be mature enough to make his own decisions ....but obviously, he is not !

Good call.

We sign a whole bunch of troubled kids yet let them of their leashes. The problem is the people looking at the problems. Carney is clearly an addict, the responsibility is on others to help him out.

Is not the football manager responsible for this? Ever since Steve Noyce arrived off field problems have escalated, coincidence?. This club needs a todd Greenburg type leader, not a steve noyce.

The zoo is back, but where are the zookeepers? There are bigger problems than carney at this club.

[Rocky Rhodes]

Carney clearly needs some psychiatric help.

But you can only lead a horse to water.

You can't make it drink.

But if you add a little alcohol into this water, the horse in question will drink it.

[bondi-boy]

What Todd needs is to get off alcohol, permanently....or at least until his footy career is over.

...and stay away from niteclubs and pubs.