Why Todd Carney needs to be sacked along with Watts.

[Guest]

I'm happy to get rid of all of them.

The reality some of you fail to remember is that most won't be there in a few years time anyway, players come and go, most don't give a rats about the jersey or the fans.

And the reality is, we will get rid of them all, and bring new drunk, wife bashing bogans into replace them. Do you think this is a new problem in Rugby League?

[Guest]

Get rid of Watts and chook,There both dickheads.... Carney is entitled to a drink, he did nothing wrong!! CHOOK AND WATTS TO FRANCE...............

[Guest]

Carney is entitled to a drink, he did nothing wrong!!

No, he is not entitled to a drink, when like the other players he has committed to a policy of not drinking while recovering from injury. But if that's not enough, you reckon he did nothing wrong if he lied to the club about visiting his mum so he could go out on Saturday night instead of supporting his teammates?

I'd really rather not see him sacked. We need him, and the seriousness of the offences Watts is charged with put Carney's misdemeanours in perspective. But he is certainly not innocent and some kind of serious action needs to be taken.

[Guest]

No, he is not entitled to a drink, when like the other players he has committed to a policy of not drinking while recovering from injury. But if that's not enough, you reckon he did nothing wrong if he lied to the club about visiting his mum so he could go out on Saturday night instead of supporting his teammates?

I'd really rather not see him sacked. We need him, and the seriousness of the offences Watts is charged with put Carney's misdemeanours in perspective. But he is certainly not innocent and some kind of serious action needs to be taken.

Give me a break JF. Carney was drinking in a public place. If he had anything at all to hide he would have gotten smashed at home or a friend's place. The club knows full well he has had a drink since the court case. The club knows full well the players have a drink whilst injured.

[Guest]

[QUOTE=dice;116654]Give me a break JF. Carney was drinking in a public place. If he had anything at all to hide he would have gotten smashed at home or a friend's place. The club knows full well he has had a drink since the court case. The club knows full well the players have a drink whilst injured.[/QUOTE]

If that's even remotely true than it's part of this shit culture I'm talking about dice. That crap needs to stop and players and officials need to know it will not be tolerated.

Chook.

[Guest]

You all work for the telegraph...........

[Guest]

Give me a break JF. Carney was drinking in a public place. If he had anything at all to hide he would have gotten smashed at home or a friend's place.

You would think. But apparently Todd doesn't. The story about Todd lying to the club about visiting his mother has not as far as I am aware been confirmed as yet. But no one's denied it either, and it rings true. Certainly at this stage, cries of "he's done nothing wrong!" are extremely presumptuous. If he's guilty of this, it's not a hanging offence but it's hardly trivial.

The club knows full well he has had a drink since the court case. The club knows full well the players have a drink whilst injured.

He was specifically left out of the Gosford game to give him a long break and get himself 100% right for the Dragons. Sure it's not the world's worst crime to break a code of commitment, but if it's been augmented by a deception which showed a complete lack of dedication to the team, it makes it rather worse.

The exact facts need to be confirmed before anyone can justly proffer a strong opinion about what action should be taken against Todd. But it's simply not true that he's "done nothing wrong", and even in the best light it is hardly a nothing matter for someone on his 1000th chance.

[ROC181]

Yeah...Lets get rid of them All!!!

So how do we recruit the next players? Do we have them do psychometric tests Or lie detector test to ensure they are not on the grog? Perhaps we can have them take a urine test everyday for 3 months before we sign them up and then what? C'mon...get real.

[Guest]

yeah...lets get rid of them all!!!

so how do we recruit the next players? Do we have them do psychometric tests or lie detector test to ensure they are not on the grog? Perhaps we can have them take a urine test everyday for 3 months before we sign them up and then what? C'mon...get real.

yeh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! chook for CEO????? WE'RE TAKING VOTES KNOW!!

[Guest]

This story is just not about Watts and by some association Carney. Its about the Roosters culture and the club. It all starts from the top, the management is weak and the players (employees) think they can get away with anything and are a protected species. Lets not forget the drunk half naked coach approaching a room, the defecating naked player in a hotel corridor,lets not forget the current player caught and found guilty of drug possession,the previous drunken aggressive behaviour toward women by certain players, prior to this current incident. A team/club with convictions. What does the the club managment do what do the administrators do? Where is the example? This culture is endemic in the club. Strong leadership begins at the top and without respect there is no loyalty. I guess that's why Samsung a multinational pulled out as a sponsor but the roosters kept on the board an executive that resigned as CEO from a leading upmarket retailer after a well publiced sex harrasment case . The roosters arent just a club in crisis they are a disgrace. Bring on the independent commission not this farce adminstration. The roosters have brought the game into direpute time after time.

[Guest]

This story is just not about Watts and by some association Carney. Its about the Roosters culture and the club. It all starts from the top, the management is weak and the players (employees) think they can get away with anything and are a protected species. Lets not forget the drunk half naked coach approaching a room, the defecating naked player in a hotel corridor,lets not forget the current player caught and found guilty of drug possession,the previous drunken aggressive behaviour toward women by certain players, prior to this current incident. A team/club with convictions. What does the the club managment do what do the administrators do? Where is the example? This culture is endemic in the club. Strong leadership begins at the top and without respect there is no loyalty. I guess that's why Samsung a multinational pulled out as a sponsor but the roosters kept on the board an executive that resigned as CEO from a leading upmarket retailer after a well publiced sex harrasment case . The roosters arent just a club in crisis they are a disgrace. Bring on the independent commission not this farce adminstration. The roosters have brought the game into direpute time after time.

Dejavu...

[theGman]

Yeah...Lets get rid of them All!!!

So how do we recruit the next players? Do we have them do psychometric tests Or lie detector test to ensure they are not on the grog? Perhaps we can have them take a urine test everyday for 3 months before we sign them up and then what? C'mon...get real.

Easy. We need to recruit from the priest training schools & christian brother academies.
Jumper major sponsor will be The Salvo's or St Vincent De Paul.

[Kramer]

Easy. We need to recruit from the priest training schools & christian brother academies.Jumper major sponsor will be The Salvo's or St Vincent De Paul.

The young blokes had better be carefull not to drop the soap in the showers.

[Guest]

The story about Todd lying to the club about visiting his mother has not as far as I am aware been confirmed as yet.

This from Todays Tele:

The truth is that coach Brian Smith granted him three days leave because Carney felt drained and hadn't been well. Carney said he was going to Goulburn to spend time with his mum. That didn't happen. On Saturday afternoon, Carney rang Smith and said he had changed his plans and would be going out for an early meal before heading home to watch the football.

So looks like Smithy at least knew the trip to mums was off the menu. Unfortunately he then got together with Watts.

But I think regardless, this drinking would have surfaced again sooner or later and maybe at a worse time.

[Pass the Ball]

You are off your head Chook...

Maybe a couple of weeks off, but that is it..

The grub Watts can spend some time in Long Bay, but Carney should not be going anywhere...

You're off your head Chook..