Convicted drug cheat coach on the Roosters...

[player 1]

I agree. Flanno should never have been allowed to coach again. He was head coach. He was responsible for what happened at his club whilst he was in charge.

I also disagree and believe we do give away penalties on our line. I'm not saying we are coached to do it and I believe it's a successful tactic.

Fair enough, but once again why are we being singled out? Do we REALLY try to slow the play the ball down when defending our line any more than other teams? Or does it just piss people off that we DEFEND our line more successfully than all the other teams who in reality are trying just as much as we do to gain an advantage in the ruck close to the tryline?

[Kingbilly]

2 points that are important here.
The penalties we give away are not as important as the ones we DON'T get.
There was nothing ever proven as far as the Sharks go, it was a massive beat up and people just copped punishment for unproven transgressions simply because the NRL threatened them with a very prolonged and very expensive legal fight. Simple bullying, ASADA had nothing. If they did there would be life bans

[John Corey]

I don't see what the fuss is all about. You are deluded if you don't think that we have deliberately given away penaltys over the last yr or 2. Specifically under Robbo. We obviously back our on line defence. Flanagan is exaggerating no doubt, but he does have a point on certain occasions.
Sometimes we get screwed by Refs.....sometimes when under a lot of pressure on our line, we choose to give away a penalty. Kudos to us for having the guts and confidence to give the opposition a new set of 6. Didn't do the Cowboys any good.

[gragra]

Kingbilly you are right ...its the penalties we don't get that is the rort. One penalty conceded by the cowboys in 80 minutes for an infringement in the play the ball !! And notwithstanding professional fouls, players aren't deliberately conceding a penalty...they are just getting pinged for technical indiscretions, arbitrarily adjudicated on when the referee feels like it !! Have a look at the reason for the penalties from the game!! 78min
Cowboys Penalty. Boyd Cordner is penalised for holding down in the play the ball 5 metres out.
77
Cowboys Penalty. Dylan Napa is penalised for stealing the ball 41 metres out.
69
Cowboys Penalty. Blake Ferguson is penalised for a high tackle 20 metres out
67
Cowboys Penalty. Michael Jennings is penalised for hands in the play the ball 1 metres out.
65
Cowboys Penalty. Jared Waerea-Hargreaves is penalised for something giving the Cowboys an easy passage out of their own half.
48
Cowboys Penalty. Roger Tuivasa-Sheck is penalised for stealing the ball 5 metres out.
43
Cowboys Penalty. James Maloney is penalised for a flop late in the tackle count 34 metres out
40
Cowboys Penalty. Michael Jennings is penalised for holding down in the play the ball 30 metres out.
29 Cowboys Penalty! Blake Ferguson gives away a penalty while in possession for obstruction late in the tackle count letting the Cowboys off the hook.
20
Roosters Penalty. Ethan Lowe is penalised for holding down in the play the ball giving the Roosters an easy passage out of their

[Spirit of 66]

Here are the counts for all games in Round 1:

11-10
9-7
10-8
10-8
9-9
9-6
9-7

and

10-2

So, going by these stats, there is nothing unusual about the penalties the Roosters give away. Player 1 is right - the anomaly is the apparently faultless discipline of the Cowboys.

[crikey chris]

Just sour grapes from Flanno. Should concentrate on his own team lol. And he was not wanted by us when he was part of Sticky's coaching crew?? Who cares anyway, we get reamed by the refs regardless...

[TheLoneRooster]

I don't see what the fuss is all about. You are deluded if you don't think that we have deliberately given away penaltys over the last yr or 2. Specifically under Robbo. We obviously back our on line defence. Flanagan is exaggerating no doubt, but he does have a point on certain occasions.
Sometimes we get screwed by Refs.....sometimes when under a lot of pressure on our line, we choose to give away a penalty. Kudos to us for having the guts and confidence to give the opposition a new set of 6. Didn't do the Cowboys any good.

Are the Roosters the only team that deliberately give away penalties? I'd posit that they aren't and yet I don't hear the media highlighting other teams doing this like it is some sort of ploy. This thinking has become so commonplace it is entering the vernacular that "the Roosters give away penalties" and that is not a good outcome for the Roosters.

You say "specifically under Robbo" yet he is on record as saying that deliberately conceding penalties isn't a Roosters tactic. Circling back to my first point, assuming other teams also employ this tactic of deliberately giving away penalties when under pressure, why do they seemingly do this less (or at all) when playing the Roosters as evidenced by the rather low number of penalties received by the Roosters?

That you don't see what all the fuss is about amazes.

[Chooky Chookerson]

I'd say he might just be bitter that his side won the penalty count 9-6 and still couldn't get the 2 points.
The amount of penalties we conceded was basically the same as 7 other teams in rd 1. So it seems kinda silly to single us out for not keeping our penalty count down...

[player 1]

Are the Roosters the only team that deliberately give away penalties? I'd posit that they aren't and yet I don't hear the media highlighting other teams doing this like it is some sort of ploy. This thinking has become so commonplace it is entering the vernacular that "the Roosters give away penalties" and that is not a good outcome for the Roosters.

You say "specifically under Robbo" yet he is on record as saying that deliberately conceding penalties isn't a Roosters tactic. Circling back to my first point, assuming other teams also employ this tactic of deliberately giving away penalties when under pressure, why do they seemingly do this less (or at all) when playing the Roosters as evidenced by the rather low number of penalties received by the Roosters?

That you don't see what all the fuss is about amazes.

LR, the brainwashing is working - many of our fans here on this forum seem to believe what they hear and read. A snide reference by the sharks coach here, a comment by Ray Warren or Sterling there, about how our whole game plan is based on giving away penalties deliberately, it sticks just like any shit thrown. Fittler is the only one who has mentioned the real issue and gigantic elephant in the room - why the refs consistently put their whistles away for the whole matches when it's OUR turn to receive a penalty.

So rather than the NRL and refs being forced to have a good hard look at themselves and their bias against our club over a long period, this build up by our enemies of calculated bullshit is designed to give them an excuse to not only continue but actually increase the rorting against our club.

[Funky Chicken]

What Kingbilly says is spot on the mark, the penalties that we concede are for the most part deserved and on par with a lot of other team. What is well outside the norm is the penalties that we are not awarded when the opposition does the exact same thing. If it was a game here or there it wouldn't be an issue, however it is happening almost every game, which makes it smack of predetermined bias by the match officials/NRL. As we showed in the first half against the Cowboys when our completion rates are high and we get treated fairly regarding penalties there ain't a side in the NRL that can get near us.

Someone at the Roosters needs to take the penalty stats over the last 10 years to the NRL, and out in that if we are not treated equally then we will bring it to the attention of the media......

[TheLoneRooster]

LR, the brainwashing is working - many of our fans here on this forum seem to believe what they hear and read.

It certainly seems to be that way unfortunately.

A snide reference by the sharks coach here, a comment by Ray Warren or Sterling there, about how our whole game plan is based on giving away penalties deliberately, it sticks just like any shit thrown.

Agree and I suspect the "throw enough mud/shit at the wall and some if it will stick" approach is being used against the Roosters. A propagandist once said words to the effect of "if you tell a lie often enough people will come to believe it."

Fittler is the only one who has mentioned the real issue and gigantic elephant in the room - why the refs consistently put their whistles away for the whole matches when it's OUR turn to receive a penalty.

I haven't heard him do that as yet but good to know.

So rather than the NRL and refs being forced to have a good hard look at themselves and their bias against our club over a long period, this build up by our enemies of calculated bullshit is designed to give them an excuse to not only continue but actually increase the rorting against our club.

That is the worrying part about this entire situation. Why is the club silent on this matter? I can only go by the continuation of this rort that they've accepted it for their own reasoning.

[Johnny.]

I suspect Flanagan was in a Dank place when he wrote that.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

I suspect Flanagan was in a Dank place when he wrote that.

Well asadas you know anyway...

[Darkone]

The only thing that's deliberate is our D
if having to contend with a sick agenda intent on thwarting our progress then so be it!

Commentators & scribes just cannot believe we can still prevail against stacked odds!

[stsae]

Cronulla coach Shane Flanagan on NRL 2015: "It's a little bit faster, sides are trying to find their feet. Sides don't want to give away too many penalties – bar the Roosters. They were quite happy to give penalties away and then defend 'em."

While I don't agree we are happy as such to give away penalties, its obvious under Coach Robbos reign so far, we are prepared to back our defence especially on our line no matter what.

Be that a dropped ball, batting a ball down or giving away a cheap penalty I believe we are more willing to give away such possession near our line than anywhere else on the field.

We are amazing at defending our line. Our coach has really changed that in our game.

Its just a media cliché now.

Who gives a fark what anyone else says or thinks.

We belted those Cowplods.