Our kicking game.

[2026]

The next player to attempt a midfield bomb should be fined $10k.

Our kicking game should be on auto pilot but sadly lets us down.

[Andrew Walker]

I actually think anyone who has a problem with this ploy has a problem with the coach.I have no doubt this is a deliberate ploy by the coach to avoid us kicking dead and the halves are doing nothing more than following the coaches instructions

[2026]

I actually think anyone who has a problem with this ploy has a problem with the coach.I have no doubt this is a deliberate ploy by the coach to avoid us kicking dead and the halves are doing nothing more than following the coaches instructions

We should at least weight the ball so it gives the chasers an opportunity to compete for it.

It's just woofed high and where it will comes down is anyones guess. The opposition then start their tackle count around the 30 metre line which is no different to giving them 7 tackles anyway.

I don't necessarily have a problem with this option.It's just that we can't execute it like JT , Reynolds, Richards etc so it's pointless.

Kick the ball out for a scrum or just grubber it into space and chase hard.This is an area of Friends game thats we've been missing

[ChookyG]

I posted about this in last night's thread. It seems that we have completely limited our kicking game to bombs. I can understand that it allows us to come up with a solid line of defence and tackle them around the 20m line, but all it does is completely stop any momentum gained from the previous set. This would not happen if we just put it along the ground into the corner, something that Friend does really well and did it a couple of times last night and they were our two best kicks of the night. They should very rarely be bombing when outside the 30m line because it is just purely ineffective.

[Rooster_6]

This is like people whinging about us not getting enough forced drop outs in 2013. History shows that what we are doing works, mid field bombs are about controlling field position and they work.

Maloney just isn't as good at executing them as Pearce. Next game watch every one of Pearce's "mid field" bombs and see where the opposing player gets tackled. Generally 10-15m out. That's a great result and it's why everyone who wants to criticise the ploy never come up with a better option.

Offer up a better solution or quit whinging.

[ChookyG]

This is like people whinging about us not getting enough forced drop outs in 2013. History shows that what we are doing works, mid field bombs are about controlling field position and they work.

Maloney just isn't as good at executing them as Pearce. Next game watch every one of Pearce's "mid field" bombs and see where the opposing player gets tackled. Generally 10-15m out. That's a great result and it's why everyone who wants to criticise the ploy never come up with a better option.

Offer up a better solution or quit whinging.

It's not wholly working though because it kills our momentum. Yes it makes them start their sets relatively close to the line, but it allows them to reset and get ready for some good hit ups by the time the bomb actually comes down and the player is tackled

[Rooster_6]

It's not wholly working though because it kills our momentum. Yes it makes them start their sets relatively close to the line, but it allows them to reset and get ready for some good hit ups by the time the bomb actually comes down and the player is tackled

I don't believe that at all. The close to the goal line the fullback is tackled the further the forwrads have to walk to get back onside. Generally forwards aren't taking hit ups until plays 3 or 4 and our defensive line is set by then.

I'm still waiting for this obvious alternative that I and now every coach in the NRL seem to be missing...

[ChookyG]

I don't believe that at all. The close to the goal line the fullback is tackled the further the forwrads have to walk to get back onside. Generally forwards aren't taking hit ups until plays 3 or 4 and our defensive line is set by then.

I'm still waiting for this obvious alternative that I and now every coach in the NRL seem to be missing...

I don't mind putting up bombs if our defensive line can put pressure on the catcher but at the moment they're putting up bombs where our players are still more than 10m away when the bomb is caught.

The alternative is putting in low, afl-like kicks into the corner and pinning them in the corner which results in them getting tackled at the 5 or 10m line. JT and Cronk are masters at doing those kicks into the corner which don't allow for any momentum from the other team and they usually finish their sets around the 40m line.

[Rooster_6]

I don't mind putting up bombs if our defensive line can put pressure on the catcher but at the moment they're putting up bombs where our players are still more than 10m away when the bomb is caught.

The alternative is putting in low, afl-like kicks into the corner and pinning them in the corner which results in them getting tackled at the 5 or 10m line. JT and Cronk are masters at doing those kicks into the corner which don't allow for any momentum from the other team and they usually finish their sets around the 40m line.

Watch Cronk tomorrow and watch how many of his position kicks are bombs compared to how many kicks he rolls along the ground, I bet you the former out numbers the latter 9 to 1.

It's this delusion that the grass is greener on the other side. Every team is putting bombs up, it's the most effective kick for dominating field position.

Running kicks along the ground almost became taboo as soon as the 7 tackle 20m restart rule came in. I think it was something ridiculous like 40% of 20m restarts last year resulted in tries. That's why teams don't kick to corners, not even Melbourne or Nth Qld. Watch them more closely.

[The Axe]

The kick becomes less effective as an attacking weapon as they allow runners to be blocked.

I'll go on record that the minute Toups signs for another club, they'll referee blocking out of the game.

[Rooster_6]

The kick becomes less effective as an attacking weapon as they allow runners to be blocked.

I'll go on record that the minute Toups signs for another club, they'll referee blocking out of the game.

The mid-field bombs are a different kick to the cross field ones we try to put in for Toops.

Generally the mid-field bomb comes into play when we're kicking 10m either side of half way. Too far out for an attacking kick but not too far out to land a bomb near the goal line and have defenders down on the 10m line by the time it's caught.

[2026]

The mid-field bombs are a different kick to the cross field ones we try to put in for Toops.

Generally the mid-field bomb comes into play when we're kicking 10m either side of half way. Too far out for an attacking kick but not too far out to land a bomb near the goal line and have defenders down on the 10m line by the time it's caught.

Iv'e been racking my brain trying to remember the last time a midfield bomb landed anywhere near the goal line and we effected the first tackle on or near the 10m line.

They are all landing around the 20 metre line and at times our chases are overrunning the ball.

By executing the kick correctly i also mean that the ball needs spiral and change direction as it's descending.

[theGman]

We should at least weight the ball so it gives the chasers an opportunity to compete for it.

It's just woofed high and where it will comes down is anyones guess. The opposition then start their tackle count around the 30 metre line which is no different to giving them 7 tackles anyway.

I don't necessarily have a problem with this option.It's just that we can't execute it like JT , Reynolds, Richards etc so it's pointless.

Kick the ball out for a scrum or just grubber it into space and chase hard.This is an area of Friends game thats we've been missing

Furthermore, our attacking bombs are nullified by intentional blockers who don't get pulled up by the refs