Hastings & L Mitchell

[Chooky]

Thes eblokes dont learn every thing in U20's with a lacklastur NSW they learn nothing they get blooded in and taught the ropes in first grade.
The few times of seen him he looks bored he is ready for another challenge and he will probably get it next year.
As I remember here many said they were shitting themselves about shek taking over Mini .
the boy has talent and needs a chance to see where he is at and what he needs to improve on-if its defense and Im sure it is then be it

What normally happens the head coach passes the game plan or how his first grade team play / attack down to all the lower grades of the club, so lower grade players that need to be added to first grade especially quickly can be thrown straight in and know what they're doing as they have followed the game plan from the lower grades. But at this club, its not happening... don't know why, as our first grade play a completely different game plan to our first grade. The u20s mainly attack on the left side and don't throw the ball around to both edges. This is not helping the team winning all the games. The forwards don't offload as much either, the players don't move up quick enough in defence or quick enough in passing. He lets in too many tries, struggles at times under the high ball and bad handling errors. People need to get out and watch the u20s games before commentating on Mitchell, he has talent but so does the whole team and he is no superstar or standout in this good side. There are plenty of players ahead of him that should be blooded first

[The Brain]

What normally happens the head coach passes the game plan or how his first grade team play / attack down to all the lower grades of the club, so lower grade players that need to be added to first grade especially quickly can be thrown straight in and know what they're doing as they have followed the game plan from the lower grades. But at this club, its not happening... don't know why, as our first grade play a completely different game plan to our first grade. The u20s mainly attack on the left side and don't throw the ball around to both edges. This is not helping the team winning all the games. The forwards don't offload as much either, the players don't move up quick enough in defence or quick enough in passing. He lets in too many tries, struggles at times under the high ball and bad handling errors. People need to get out and watch the u20s games before commentating on Mitchell, he has talent but so does the whole team and he is no superstar or standout in this good side. There are plenty of players ahead of him that should be blooded first

That can be fair enough call ..i dont get to see much .Well he has Mini at the club Im sure they would get him into one on one coaching with him

[Guest]

I would theorise that the game plan of Trent "Robbo" Robinson is not handed down to the younger grades because it is based on defence and a power forward game which the younger players at 18, 19 and 20 years old are unable to cope with physically and mentally.

I have seen numerous games live of our under 20's this season and I believe that Latrell Mitchell has a lot of talent. Yes his defence is not up to the highest standard but not many players at that age are. I do not see too many standout players in the team but I believe that young Manu could also be good in first grade.

[Half time]

What normally happens the head coach passes the game plan or how his first grade team play / attack down to all the lower grades of the club, so lower grade players that need to be added to first grade especially quickly can be thrown straight in and know what they're doing as they have followed the game plan from the lower grades. But at this club, its not happening... don't know why, as our first grade play a completely different game plan to our first grade. The u20s mainly attack on the left side and don't throw the ball around to both edges. This is not helping the team winning all the games. The forwards don't offload as much either, the players don't move up quick enough in defence or quick enough in passing. He lets in too many tries, struggles at times under the high ball and bad handling errors. People need to get out and watch the u20s games before commentating on Mitchell, he has talent but so does the whole team and he is no superstar or standout in this good side. There are plenty of players ahead of him that should be blooded first

Only a few players in the 20s will ever make first grade, despite how highly you think of the whole 20s squad. Latrell will certainly be one of them and he will have a long first grade career and likely future star in first grade whilst most of the rest of that squad will need to find another career. Sad reality of professional sport.

[dj_sta]

I agree Mitchell's defence is not up to FG standard yet. But I dont agree with the fact that this is why he should not make his debut. It will only help his game if he plays FG.

I agree dont throw him in at FB, but at least play him on the wing and let him learn. With SKD's absence it would have been the perfect time to blood him, but Robbo has chosen not to. Will be interesting to see which way Robbo ends up going with Mitchell, I just hope we dont push him out as well like we did with RTS and give him an opportunity sooner than later.

[Tommy Smith]

Hopefully by June next year, Mitchell will be banging the door down like Tom Trbojevic. He's 8 months younger so it'd be great if he starts carving up in a similar fashion by mid-2016.

Tom Turbo is probably the greatest and most dominant prospect the U20s has ever seen. Anyone who's seen a lot of U20s wanna make a comment on comparing the two? Yak?

[Chooky]

[QUOTE=Half time;n614497]

Only a few players in the 20s will ever make first grade, despite how highly you think of the whole 20s squad. Latrell will certainly be one of them and he will have a long first grade career and likely future star in first grade whilst most of the rest of that squad will need to find another career. Sad reality of professional sport.[/QUOTE

You must be related to Latrell.To make a silly comment like that. I am saying it how I see it and by the lots of comments of others watching the game we all agree. You obviously don't watch any of the games, need to take the blinkers off. They have a great forward pack and outside backs. The only weakness is they don't have a good proper halfback. Latrell has talent but he is no standout, he let in 3 tries against the Bulldogs and nearly cost his team the game if he hadn't scored at the end, he has handling problems, including catching the high bombs and defensive issues in all his games, including against Newcastle, where he dropped the ball a few times and let in a try. If he was playing fullback now in first grade you and others would be saying, he is no good. I like to watch all our Roosters games including the u20s and to be honest I can't see what all the fuss about Latrell is. To be fair Tom Trbojevic is a much better player at fullback, which is his position but not on the wing.

[Chooky]

Hopefully by June next year, Mitchell will be banging the door down like Tom Trbojevic. He's 8 months younger so it'd be great if he starts carving up in a similar fashion by mid-2016.

Tom Turbo is probably the greatest and most dominant prospect the U20s has ever seen. Anyone who's seen a lot of U20s wanna make a comment on comparing the two? Yak?

I have watched a lot of Tommy. He is a good fullback, you couldn't compare the two. But Tommy is not a winger. Its a specialised position. Tom does not have the explosive speed from a standing start, but rather his speed builds up. He is not quick enough on the wing and to get back in defence and has been caught out. He does not get back on the 5th tackle to be ready for the kick and has been caught out as well with his opposition winger running past him and scoring on numerous times. But Tom is a fullback and thats his best position. To be fair though, the u20s competition has been very ordinary this year and so the competition is not there either. You used to have teams like South, Bulldogs, Newcastle, Warriors all leading the comp and they were hard teams to beat, their players have moved up or gone elsewhere, now the hard teams are Cowboys and Broncos. It does help however when you are playing fullback, getting the ball the whole time and be able to run the whole field looking for opportunities

[Johnny Tobin]

Hopefully by June next year, Mitchell will be banging the door down like Tom Trbojevic. He's 8 months younger so it'd be great if he starts carving up in a similar fashion by mid-2016.

Tom Turbo is probably the greatest and most dominant prospect the U20s has ever seen. Anyone who's seen a lot of U20s wanna make a comment on comparing the two? Yak?

Hate to bring this up but RTS was amazing in the 20's. He had only just started playing the game and was a class above.

[Chooky]

Hate to bring this up but RTS was amazing in the 20's. He had only just started playing the game and was a class above.

Agree. He is a natural, athlete, explosive speed step

[Cockadoodledoo]

I would theorise that the game plan of Trent "Robbo" Robinson is not handed down to the younger grades because it is based on defence and a power forward game which the younger players at 18, 19 and 20 years old are unable to cope with physically and mentally.

It is practically a different sport to the NRL and I believe you are right with regards to the game plans. The 20's team doesn't have the physicality in the forwards or fitness levels of the NRL teams and as such the game is far more open. Basically a hybrid touch football/rugby league competition. Mitchell has heaps of ability but unless he works as hard as someone like Sheck, it may end up being wasted talent.

[Cockadoodledoo]

[QUOTE=Chooky;n614509]

Only a few players in the 20s will ever make first grade, despite how highly you think of the whole 20s squad. Latrell will certainly be one of them and he will have a long first grade career and likely future star in first grade whilst most of the rest of that squad will need to find another career. Sad reality of professional sport.[/QUOTE

You must be related to Latrell.To make a silly comment like that. I am saying it how I see it and by the lots of comments of others watching the game we all agree. You obviously don't watch any of the games, need to take the blinkers off. They have a great forward pack and outside backs.

I am not sure what game you are watching but there isn't much to get excited about in the current 20's outfit. I see it every year, people calling out half the players as future superstars. The cold hard truth is only a couple will make it and the club knows that. It is never certain which players are those couple, that is true but the forward pack looks extremely light on and the backline is nothing special either.

[Chooky]

[QUOTE=Cockadoodledoo;n614515]

I am not sure what game you are watching but there isn't much to get excited about in the current 20's outfit. I see it every year, people calling out half the players as future superstars. The cold hard truth is only a couple will make it and the club knows that. It is never certain which players are those couple, that is true but the forward pack looks extremely light on and the backline is nothing special either.

You should get out and watch the games more often as the forward pack is one of the biggest in the comp, they have a great backline and if the team continues to do well, plenty of clubs will be chasing. I am hearing a lot of the players are being chased by other clubs at present

[Guest]

I saw Johnny Tuivasa Sheck have a terrible game against the Auckland Warriors at the Sydney Football Stadium which was a game that Latrell Mitchell was a standout in a badly beaten team making a couple of breaks on kick returns that he fielded in his own in goal area or just before and scored s beautiful try late in the game where he ran a great line even though in the interest of fairness I believed the final pass forward. These poor defensive games happen to all players in that grade. The forward pack that day was certainly outmuscled by their New Zealand counterparts and the try that Johnny Tuivasa Sheck concedes while trying to kick the ball on the run only 10 metres from his own try line instead of falling on the ball was very very poor.

I can also recall that Nene Macdonald was a standout in the lower grade team as was Tautau Moga. I do not believe that being a dominant player in that level of football means a player will or will not become a successful player at the first grade standard. If he works hard and follows our coaching staffs overall team direction he can succeed.

[Tommy Smith]

It sounds somewhat comparable to College Basketball. A lot of the players that score plenty of points or look good rarely make the transition to the NBA.

In contrast you'll have someone like Kyrie Irving who did little in college but was always a clear no.1 pick because it was clear he had the skills that translated to the NBA.