Dale Copley

[Cockadoodledoo]

I think something like that would make sense.

I think it is probably important to look at each players upside.

Cordner in all likelihood will, become one of the top 3 backrowers in the comp, develop further ball playing and offloading skills and will captain to boot.

Jennings has speed and elusiveness, however we know that these skills deteriorate with age, sometimes very quickly (Billy Slater anyone?). He is getting on and the likelihood of further skill development is also unlikely in my opinion.

We still have plenty of attacking guns in our team so I wouldn't worry - Fergo, SKD, Hastings, Pearce, Nikorama (very excited about his potential) and possibly SBW will there. Additionally, we have some fantastic finishers such as Tupou, Burgess and Mitchell.

Cordner and Friend are the same age just about. It would be a shocking admission that the club got the Pearce/Friend appointment wrong. TBH our back rowers are the most expendable players outside of our Wingers. It makes no sense to engage in a bidding war for them. In fact SST is the one I would want to keep the most. I feel he has the most upside as a player. I find this bizarre to say the least, particularly with SBW coming in 2017. We need to lose a back rower, Guerra would be first choice but if Cordner wants big dollars then let him get them elsewhere. Back rowers don't win you premierships unless you have a 3 dimensional game like SBW.
We could go with SBW, SST and Aubo as starting back 3 or at worst Guerra in and Aubo on the bench. With Liu also playing lock you have the guys that would cover 80 minutes. Amazing that we wouldn't go to these lengths to keep a critical spine player in RTS but would do so for a player in a less crucial position.

[roostersrule2]

I'm prepared to let Cordner walk to be honest.

He's good, real good but he is overrated. I'd also rather we let Guerra go then Jennings if we had to.

[Cockadoodledoo]

I'm prepared to let Cordner walk to be honest.

He's good, real good but he is overrated. I'd also rather we let Guerra go then Jennings if we had to.

We would be paying Cordner more than Gavin Cooper and Ethan Lowe combined. Should tell you something there.

[2026]

You have to pay some players overs at times to keep them or else your left with an average looking roster and a culture that is constantly developing good players and losing them to other clubs that are prepared to offer more.

I guess it's a balancing act.

Cordner may have been good value but eventually they want the big bucks which is fair enough.

SST would more than likely be on peanuts and good value ATM. This arrangement, like Cordners, will most likely change when his current deal enters it's final season.

[E96_]

I'd rather the club keep Corder @ 600k-650k max and let Aiden Guerra go if we had to select between the two.

The salary cap is due to rise and surely we can pay a future leader of our club what he is worth.

Michael Jennings not being re-signed after this season makes sense, as we have Aubbo, Elliot and other younger backline players coming through, he will be 27-28 by the time his contract expires? it would be a good time to save that amount to put towards a key positional player moving forward as much as i have loved our time having MJ.

[stephenj]

agreed he really has been a special acquisition for us but hes getting older and slower , i think this season we will really see what absolute speed looks like, weave got some extremely rapid men ready to don the rwb this season, i do however salute mj fror his valued contributions over the recent years.

[Half time]

Cordner and Friend are the same age just about. It would be a shocking admission that the club got the Pearce/Friend appointment wrong. TBH our back rowers are the most expendable players outside of our Wingers. It makes no sense to engage in a bidding war for them. In fact SST is the one I would want to keep the most. I feel he has the most upside as a player. I find this bizarre to say the least, particularly with SBW coming in 2017. We need to lose a back rower, Guerra would be first choice but if Cordner wants big dollars then let him get them elsewhere. Back rowers don't win you premierships unless you have a 3 dimensional game like SBW.
We could go with SBW, SST and Aubo as starting back 3 or at worst Guerra in and Aubo on the bench. With Liu also playing lock you have the guys that would cover 80 minutes. Amazing that we wouldn't go to these lengths to keep a critical spine player in RTS but would do so for a player in a less crucial position.

There is a difference between RTS and Cordner from something that the club (especially nick) places high importance on. One didn't really care about staying whereas the other deep down really wants to stay.

[Rooster_6]

We couldn't make it 1 day in 2016 before the Cordner bagging started.

The season really wasn't that long ago... I feel like I'm the only one who saw him dominate 2015 and thought he was without a doubt our best and most consistent forward. His ability to be a threat on the fringe & give us excellent yardage in tight is so invaluable, there's very few second rowers in the game who can do both to a high standard.

I would happily pay the price of admission at any game at any level just to watch Boyd Cordner go around, the work he gets through on and off the ball is unmatched in our team, the runs he takes when the team is hurting and he's hurting are consistently inspirational, the lines he runs for his ball players take big balls and he does it with 100% conviction every time, he puts his shoulder into every tackle with the force and belief that it is the most important tackle of the game & he turns up no matter the opposition, no matter the scoreline and no matter the occasion.

Cordner underlies everything our team stands for, he's a standard setter and a huge part of our culture. It's naive to think he can be replaced by someone with a similar skill level when he offers so much more than that on the field.

There's plenty of equally skilled props to JWH on less money but none are worth what he is for a very good reason.

[roostersrule2]

I rate Cordner highly but you're acting like he's the messiah. He can be inconsistent, he was pretty poor in 2014 and the start of last year after all. Not to mention he has bombed a number of tries by refusing to pass.

I hope we keep him but it shouldn't cost one of our strike players, especially considering who we've lost in the last year.

[Rooster_6]

I rate Cordner highly but you're acting like he's the messiah. He can be inconsistent, he was pretty poor in 2014 and the start of last year after all. Not to mention he has bombed a number of tries by refusing to pass.

I hope we keep him but it shouldn't cost one of our strike players, especially considering who we've lost in the last year.

No, I'm acting like he's a huge asset to our club which he is.

It's easy to replace good players.

It's extremely hard to replace great people. I think Cordner is right up there with Morley, JWH, Fitzy & Ricko as a great forward leader over the past couple of decades. At least if you don't think he's there yet surely the potential to be there is evident. You don't just throw that away...

I feel my response to the brushing of Cordner to be more than proportionate, you and cockadoodledo need a good slap around the head.

[roostersrule2]

No, I'm acting like he's a huge asset to our club which he is.

It's easy to replace good players.

It's extremely hard to replace great people. I think Cordner is right up there with Morley, JWH, Fitzy & Ricko as a great forward leader over the past couple of decades. At least if you don't think he's there yet surely the potential to be there is evident. You don't just throw that away...

I feel my response to the brushing of Cordner to be more than proportionate, you and cockadoodledo need a good slap around the head.

I'm not saying he isn't an asset, he's still overrated though.

You also don't throw away once in a generation freaks like Jennings who has won us more then one match and is one of the best attacking and defensive centres in the comp.

You feel your own response to be proportionate? Well isn't that dandy.

[Rooster_6]

I'm not saying he isn't an asset, he's still overrated though.

You also don't throw away once in a generation freaks like Jennings who has won us more then one match and is one of the best attacking and defensive centres in the comp.

You feel your own response to be proportionate? Well isn't that dandy.

Jennings is once in a generation? Really?

If someone asked me who the centre of my generation was it'd surely be Greg Inglis hands down with a shout out to Jamie Lyon.

Jennings is an extremely good finisher but he hasn't even done that very well over the past 2 seasons and it's what he gets paid for... 21 tries in 2 seasons is nothing to write home about.

[roostersrule2]

Jennings is once in a generation? Really?

If someone asked me who the centre of my generation was it'd surely be Greg Inglis hands down with a shout out to Jamie Lyon.

Jennings is an extremely good finisher but he hasn't even done that very well over the past 2 seasons and it's what he gets paid for... 21 tries in 2 seasons is nothing to write home about.

Jennings is a freak athlete, he's a different style of player to Inglis and Lyon. His acceleration, footwork, strength and athleticism lead me to believe he's one of the premier centres in the game.

Over the last two seasons he's still averaged over 10 tries, which isn't anything to scoff at. He's hardly just a finisher either, he's a game breaker.

[dice]

With Jennings, RTS, and Maloney all gone we have reverted to one of the slowest backlines in the competition.

I am not looking forward to watching the likes of Walker/Roberts/Lyons/Jennings taking two steps to get on the outside of our oversized centres.

[Tommy Smith]

If we go from a centre pairing of Fergo and Jennings to Copley and SKD then I'll cry.

Essentially, that's why we shouldn't cave in and overpay Cordner.

There has to be another way to find that extra slice of salary cap.