24/2/16 SMH REPORTING ON SKD COURT CASE

[Easts75]

Wtf do you know about her mother's finances. I work with a lot of indigenous people in very well paying jobs who are flat broke because they give all their money to less well off family members and their community.

I work with a lot of indigenous people as well. The only difference is they wear green and i wear blue.

[eddie]

You are saying that the club should start dolling out cash to anyone that makes an allegation against one of their players.
Like I said. You have lost the plot.

That would set a wonderful precedent wouldn't it.
Employers become responsible for after hours domestics involving their staff?
This chick lost a lot of credibility by penning that letter I reckon.

[JAF]

Big day tomorrow in court - how long do these cases normally last for?
I think I heard somewhere that it could be a 3 day hearing? If so, that would mean that tomorrow is the final day?

[milanja]

They offered shelter at a time of need. Importantly, they declined to offer any monetary assistance, ie no one can say they provided hush money. The club did the correct thing.
Any other matters is up to the individual to decide, ie police action. It's not up to the Roosters to take a letter, of which they are unable to verify or validate to the Police.

So they don't have the need to seek professional help, but they feel the need to provide accommodation and a loan car? Very contradictory.

They should never had agreed to anything.

[chopstiks]

Calling Cath a friend while swiftly throwing her under the bus. What a piece of work.

"I intended to be an employee of the cafe". Please Temby, please pull out the text where she tells SKD he's a f**** piece of s*** F**** you c*** i'm not working in that cafe, you c*** "

[fletch]

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/c...25-gn3neu.html

[LeCoq]

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/c...25-gn3neu.html

Selective reporting again by the SMH. I don't believe they have an agenda as such it's more about the editors knowing that they have to sensationalise everything as much as possible to generate greater web traffic, clicks, shares, comments, etc and thereby maintain and increase advertising revenue - the real driver of overall revenue and potential profit.

[RoosTah]

Why?

It's this bias - in the legal system, the media, and society in general - that is the root cause of discrimination against men in legal disputes.

Why should we naturally side with the woman on issues such as domestic violence accusations and custody battles? How about we ignore gender and make decisions based purely on the facts instead...

My sister used to work in domestic violence and I can tell you now the system doesn't do women the favours a lot of blokes think it does. AVOs are pretty much useless, and women leaving abusive relationships end up dead more often than people think.

I understand that blokes get the raw end of it in legal disputes on occasion because of there being more concern for the woman, but generally speaking the system has to show more concern for the party that is vastly more likely to be the victim of murder in these scenarios.

[Horry]

From the Australian - funny how this SMH reporter has only reported some of the stuff. She has a great history with condemning NRL Players.
Sydney Roosters star Shaun Kenny-Dowall has denied physically abusing his former partner, saying violence against women is “completely unacceptable”.

The Kiwi international gave evidence at the Downing Centre Local Court, where he faces 11 charges relating to the alleged assault and stalking of ex-partner Jessica Peris.
Kenny-Dowall has pleaded not guilty to 11 charges of domestic violence against Ms Peris, the daughter of Olympic gold medallist and federal Labor senator Nova Peris.
Under questioning from his own barrister, Kenny-Dowall, 28, rejected Ms Peris’s allegations that he kicked her, threw a phone at her, headbutted her or put her in a headlock during their 14-month live-in relationship.

• MORE:NRL star ‘abused Peris daughter’

He told the court his attitude towards the question of physical violence inflicted by any man on any woman was that it was “completely unacceptable”.
The court heard that Ms Peris did not inform Centrelink of her new work conditions so she would still receive support payments while living with Kenny-Dowall.
Her finances had been in a mess in 2014 when she met the Kiwi international, the court was told, and that during the 14 months they were living together Kenny-Dowall paid the rent and the vast majority of household bills.
Ian Temby QC, appearing for Kenny-Dowall said: “His financially position was considerable more healthy than yours.”
Ms Peris remained calm and polite during almost two day’s of cross-examination.
NRL star ‘attacked’
Earlier in proceedings, Mr Temby contended that Ms Peris attacked Kenny-Dowall after he took her phone and confronted her about its contents.
Mr Temby made the claim while questioning Ms Peris about the alleged attacks.
Mr Temby ran the court through a chronology of the alleged violence.
He said on October 10, 2014, an argument broke out at the couple’s Coogee apartment over previous lovers, after which Kenny-Dowall took Ms Peris’s phone into the bathroom.
After confronting Ms Peris about its contents, Mr Temby said: “You immediately rushed toward him”
Ms Peris replied: “No”.
Mr Temby: “You were hitting him and trying to get the phone out of his hand.”
Ms Peris: “I was asking for it back.”
Mr Temby: “You attacked him physically and he then threw the phone onto the bed.”
Ms Peris: “No sir, he threw it at the wall behind me, on my direction at my face.”
Both parties agree Kenny-Dowall then grabbed her tightly and punched a wall.
The result, she said, was a bruise about the size of his hand on her left bicep.
Mr Temby said the likelihood of a bruise coming up from a Friday night incident by Sunday for the birthday lunch, when the accused is alleged to have joked about it was, “extremely improbable”.
“It had come up sir,” Ms Peris said.
Of a February 26, 2015, dog dispute in which the footballer is alleged to have kicked Ms Peris “four or five times”, and once out of bed, Mr Temby said: “I suggest to you that that never occurred.”
“No sir that’s not correct,” Ms Peris said.
Of an April 6 alleged assault which was sparked after Kenny-Dowall demanded Ms Peris came home from a night out with friends in Kings Cross Mr Temby asked: “Do you argue you were affected by alcohol and the illegal substance cocaine you had consumed?”
“Not to the point I wasn’t in control of my actions sir,” Ms Peris said.
The court was shown Nine Network footage from May 11 when Kenny-Dowall had re-signed with the Roosters.
In the interview Ms Peris described her then partner as “extremely humble”, “very kind hearted” and “very loyal”.
“We are always there for each other ... He means the world to me,” she said.
Mr Temby said: “This is after four occasions when my client had abused you. It’s nonsense isn’t it?”
Ms Peris: “No sir.”
Mr Temby said that in thousands of texts to Kenny-Dowall none accused him of physical harm.
“There were messages that identified something had happened, yes,” Ms Peris told the court.
‘Vigorous’ sex texts
Kenny-Dowall enjoyed a “vigorous” sexual relationship with former girlfriend Peris, detailed in “forthright” text exchanges between the pair, a court has heard.
Under cross-examination by Mr Temby Ms Peris agreed her sexual relationship with the player was “of a vigorous nature”, and included texts from Kenny-Dowall such as “I’ll bend you over and pull your hair”.
Ms Peris agreed she responded in a “positive” manner, replying, “pull my hair until I moan”.
She also agreed it wasn’t unusual for Kenny-Dowall to pull her hair during sex, but denied that was the only context in which he did it.
She said he also pulled her hair once on a non-intimate occasion, the court heard.
Ms Peris was asked to read some of about 40,000 text messages the pair exchanged between October 2014 and late June 2015.
Labor senator Nova Peris arrives at Sydney’s Downing Centre with daughter Jessica.

“You’re an actual c**t’, “Go and get f**ked you dog” and “You’re a f**king piece of sh*t,” she read in Sydney’s Downing Centre Local Court.
Mr Temby put to Ms Peris that in the exchange “you gave as good as you got”?
She replied: “Under those circumstances I responded in the same language.”
Ms Peris admitted using obscenities in texts to Kenny-Dowall, among them “you f**king piece of sh*t”, f**kwit, dickhead and c**t.
Ms Peris denied she had “recycled” domestic violence complaints she made in 2011 against a prior partner.
However, she conceded she tried to get material support from the Roosters NRL club before going to police with the violence allegations and Kenny-Dowall.
The court heard the club offered shelter and a car for a month, but Ms Peris wanted accommodation and a car for six months, and one months’ income.
An Instagram picture of Kenny-Dowall and Ms Peris taken while they were in a relationship.

“I’d prefer this not to become public,” she wrote in a letter to Roosters chief executive Brian Canavan on June 30, 2015.
Mr Temby quizzed Ms Peris about her statement regarding the alcoholic drink she alleges Kenny-Dowall threw over her.
He told her that in her original statement to police Ms Peris had said she had to change her clothes because she was covered in alcohol.
“But you told the court yesterday you had to redo your hair and dry your clothes,” Mr Temby said
Ms Peris was asked to read to court text messages sent between her and Kenny-Dowall.

Ms Peris replied: I took my clothes off dried them and put them back on.”
Mr Temby asked about the “considerable time gap” between the last complaint — June 25 — and the report of it to the police on July 16.
“In that time you were trying to see if you could get some material support out of the Roosters, my client or both?,” He asked.
“Yes sir,” Ms Peris replied.
“It was not until you found out that there would be no material support coming that you went to the police?” Temby asked.
Ms Peris replied: “In a sense, yes.”

[Horry]

ABC
The domestic violence trial of NRL footballer Shaun Kenny-Dowall has heard allegations the Roosters centre handed $100 bills to his former partner from a "brown paper bag".
Key points:

• Court hears Kenny-Dowall allegedly paid Peris salary in paper bag full of $100 bills
• Peris alleges she was advised by Roosters club officer to keep quiet over domestic violence allegations
• Court to continue hearing evidence on Friday

Intimate details of the relationship between Kenny-Dowall and his former partner Jessica Peris, the daughter of federal senator Nova Peris, have been trawled over in the Downing Centre Local Court in Sydney.
Kenny-Dowall is fighting 11 domestic violence charges, including assault occasioning actual bodily harm, common assault, stalking, intimidation and property damage.
He has pleaded not guilty to all charges.
The footballer entered the witness box on Thursday afternoon during the second day of the criminal trial before Magistrate Gregory Grogin.
Kenny-Dowall told the court he believed violence against women was "completely unacceptable".
Under questioning from his barrister, Kenny-Dowall told the court he had never assaulted Ms Peris, and said his former partner had physically attacked him during an argument.
Ms Peris earlier faced hours of cross-examination by the top silk hired by Kenny-Dowall, former NSW corruption commissioner Ian Temby QC.
During Ms Peris's evidence, it emerged Kenny-Dowall had paid his former partner $5,000 as a salary for helping the footballer set up a cafe in the Sydney suburb of Mascot.
The payment was detailed in a spreadsheet tendered to the court.
Prosecutor Amin Assaad attempted to ask Ms Peris about the $5,000 during re-examination at the conclusion of the 26-year-old's evidence.
"Was that a transfer?" Mr Assaad asked the witness.
"That was given to me in cash ... it was $100 bills out of a brown paper bag," Ms Peris replied.
When Mr Assaad asked Ms Peris where the money came from, Kenny-Dowall's barrister protested saying the line of questioning was irrelevant.
The magistrate agreed and refused to allow the evidence, striking Ms Peris's answer out of evidence.
It was one of a number of answers given by Ms Peris during her testimony that were struck out of evidence, as Mr Grogin took exception on repeated occasions to Ms Peris providing "commentary" or "speeches" when responding to questions from counsel.
Violence against women 'completely unacceptable': Kenny-Dowall

Another line of questioning, concerning an offer made by the Roosters' club to Ms Peris as internal negotiations with the club over the domestic violence complaint broke down, was also refused by the magistrate.
PHOTO: Kenny-Dowall is accused of stalking and assaulting his former girlfriend and destroying her phone.(AAP: Dean Lewins)

It emerged in court a lawyer acting for the Roosters offered to give Kenny-Dowall's Range Rover to Ms Peris.
The offer followed failed negotiations between the club and Ms Peris, after she approached then-Roosters chief executive Brian Canavan to detail her allegations of domestic violence.
Ms Peris told Mr Canavan in a letter dated June 30, 2015 and tendered to the court, she had been left "physically and emotionally abused" following months of alleged violence at the hands of her former partner.
Ms Peris alleged in the letter she had been advised not to report the allegations to police by a player liaison officer at the club, Cathy King.
The ABC has approached the Roosters for comment on the contents of the letter.
The court will continue to hear the evidence of Kenny-Dowall on Friday.
On Thursday afternoon, the footballer denied he ever assaulted his former partner.
Kenny-Dowall has been accused of pinning Ms Peris against the wall in a bedroom in October 2014, punching a picture frame next to her head, grabbing Ms Peris forcefully by the arm and throwing her across the room.
He told the court Ms Peris had, in fact, attacked him while trying to retrieve her phone.
"She attacked me and tried to retrieve her phone back," Kenny-Dowall said.
"She was grabbing for her phone ... pretty aggressively trying to get her phone back."
Kenny-Dowall was asked by Mr Temby: "What is your general attitude towards the question of physical violence by any man towards a woman?"
Kenny-Dowall replied: "Completely unacceptable."
The case continues.

[Johnny Tobin]

That would set a wonderful precedent wouldn't it.
Employers become responsible for after hours domestics involving their staff?
This chick lost a lot of credibility by penning that letter I reckon.

I think his team would have debated whether or not they used it. When the other side didn't they went for it. But it was a risk.

[Johnny Tobin]

Hopefully when this is all over and that mole slinks back to Darwin in disgrace the spotlight can then be shone on the actions of Maroubra Police that caused him to have a total breakdown.

[mightyrooster]

My sister used to work in domestic violence and I can tell you now the system doesn't do women the favours a lot of blokes think it does. AVOs are pretty much useless, and women leaving abusive relationships end up dead more often than people think.

I understand that blokes get the raw end of it in legal disputes on occasion because of there being more concern for the woman, but generally speaking the system has to show more concern for the party that is vastly more likely to be the victim of murder in these scenarios.

Finally! Thank you RoosTah. I like the rest of you hope SKD is completely innocent. My female gut instincts say that he is. But please domestic violence laws are there for a reason. And that reason is far too many men are violent to women and get away with it. The media of course will take a different biassed alant on this one simply because SKD is an NRL footballer who also plays for the Roosters. It is unfair that some women will drag innocent men throught the courts but it is more likely the case that violent men get way with beating women without anything being done about it. And it often involves children. The system is there to protect these women.

[player 1]

Finally! Thank you RoosTah. I like the rest of you hope SKD is completely innocent. My female gut instincts say that he is. But please domestic violence laws are there for a reason. And that reason is far too many men are violent to women and get away with it. The media of course will take a different biassed alant on this one simply because SKD is an NRL footballer who also plays for the Roosters. It is unfair that some women will drag innocent men throught the courts but it is more likely the case that violent men get way with beating women without anything being done about it. And it often involves children. The system is there to protect these women.

.....half of whom will soon be men.

[Johnny.]

I'm currently reading a completely fictional novel about a footballer who is alleged to have physically his girlfriend on numerous occasions. People within his club went out of their way to bribe the girlfriend to drop any plans of telling the cops what this footballer is alleged to have done. Those people ended up not working for the club after the attempted bribery, which made the footballer look guilty, and the case went to court.

I'm only half way through it. It will be interesting to see what happens.