Heighington...yes or no?

[Guest]

Anasta is not a forward, he only comes in handy if Carney is out, injured, there must be a few teams interested in his signature though as he has always been good with the No. 6 on his back.

he's hardly been good with the number 6 on his back.

[Guest]

I can see Anasta at Penrith.

He will play outside a capable Walsh and behind a massive forward pack.

Make it happen Gus!

[melon....]

I can see Anasta at Penrith.

He will play outside a capable Walsh and behind a massive forward pack.

Make it happen Gus!

And win a second premiership.

[Guest]

For someone who praises the under 20s and Newtown so much, over doing it like a love sick mum, you have not mentioned even one of our own except to protect them like a brooding hen. if Cordner , Tasi and co are as good as you say, then they are the ones to fill in the spots. End of story. Do or die. Now or never. If it means we face 3-5 years of soul searching whilst they mature, the rewards await. But even you cant see it. Yep lets buy some other club's nuffies.


This is what is wrong with Eastern Suburbs. From the Chair to the fan.Opposition Players hate Easts and would hate to sign up with a pussy club like ours - its only about tehmoney at Easts....it always was.

you are completely missing the point. my point in discussing our juniors is to try and go against the typical roosters way of getting out the cheque book instead of giving some of the younger guys a go who often end up better players anyway. look at our 20s side from 2008. they ran last yet would have almost the most graduates to consistent NRL compared with all the other 20s teams. my point has always been to try and advocate a more balanced recruitment strategy - ie try and fill as many spots as you can with your own and only enter the market to complement what you have.

how does me saying we need someone like heighington for a couple of years for some leadership and experience to help transition our young forwards into grade suddenly defy logic? the main reason i would have him over say bolton is the fact that he will not get in the way of the progression of the younger guys in the long run but instead help stabilise the side in the interim. Masoe, Tasi, Cordner, Lowe are all still very raw. masoe has a poor workrate imo, tasi is only 2 games into first grade and cordner has had more injuries and interupted football than you can poke a stick at. of course i think they have what it takes but you would have to be mad to decide to get rid of ryles, myles, anasta, piggy, watts and replace them with no one in the hope that the young guys will miraculously become top draw first graders over night. For next year id like to see:
8. JWH
9. Friend
10. Kennedy
11. Maubs
12. Guerra/Cordner/Lowe
13. Heighington

14. Symonds
15. Ryles/Ross/Gibbs/Poore
16. Tasi/Masoe
17. FPN/Cherrington

you can see that there is depth and a good mix of youth and experience which every side needs. by the time ryles/ross and heighington retire, slowly we will be able to bring through the younger guys.

[melon....]

you are completely missing the point. my point in discussing our juniors is to try and go against the typical roosters way of getting out the cheque book instead of giving some of the younger guys a go who often end up better players anyway. look at our 20s side from 2008. they ran last yet would have almost the most graduates to consistent NRL compared with all the other 20s teams. my point has always been to try and advocate a more balanced recruitment strategy - ie try and fill as many spots as you can with your own and only enter the market to complement what you have.

how does me saying we need someone like heighington for a couple of years for some leadership and experience to help transition our young forwards into grade suddenly defy logic? the main reason i would have him over say bolton is the fact that he will not get in the way of the progression of the younger guys in the long run but instead help stabilise the side in the interim. Masoe, Tasi, Cordner, Lowe are all still very raw. masoe has a poor workrate imo, tasi is only 2 games into first grade and cordner has had more injuries and interupted football than you can poke a stick at. of course i think they have what it takes but you would have to be mad to decide to get rid of ryles, myles, anasta, piggy, watts and replace them with no one in the hope that the young guys will miraculously become top draw first graders over night. For next year id like to see:
8. JWH
9. Friend
10. Kennedy
11. Maubs
12. Guerra/Cordner/Lowe
13. Heighington

14. Symonds
15. Ryles/Ross/Gibbs/Poore
16. Tasi/Masoe
17. FPN/Cherrington

you can see that there is depth and a good mix of youth and experience which every side needs. by the time ryles/ross and heighington retire, slowly we will be able to bring through the younger guys.

My point, is you overstate Chris' influence and over rate our depth. FPN shouldnt be here. Poore Gibbs Ryles....where are you going? These guys would be/are transit lounge whores on the superannuation tour. Take them rightly off teh list and we have no depth.

Which means one thing. Baptism of fire. I reckon we test your ratings and churn and burn the youth. The good ones will make it the rest can be pissed off. We need a 5 year plan not a 12 month one. The club has no valid vision for development or long term strategy.

We want success and we want it now....thats why we NEVER GET IT.

[Guest]

My point, is you overstate Chris' influence and over rate our depth. FPN shouldnt be here. Poore Gibbs Ryles....where are you going? These guys would be/are transit lounge whores on the superannuation tour. Take them rightly off teh list and we have no depth.

Which means one thing. Baptism of fire. I reckon we test your ratings and churn and burn the youth. The good ones will make it the rest can be pissed off. We need a 5 year plan not a 12 month one. The club has no valid vision for development or long term strategy.

We want success and we want it now....thats why we NEVER GET IT.

thats what we should do this year if anything. so what you are essentially proposing is get rid of all the experienced guys and put the 20s on the field next season and see who sinks and swims essentially wasting a year imo. my opinion is that every year you should plan to win the comp. that doesnt mean you have an equal chance every year or you dont take more risks some years as opposed to others but your logic is fundamentally flawed. if its about testing the kids out, give them a run now, this year considering the season hangs in the balance atm anyway. that would give us enough of a gauge of potential imo. and on poore/ross/ryles/gibbs, fact of the matter is that we need another workhorse and experience prop to go with masoe/tasi, kennedy and JWH. a frontrow rotation of Kennedy, JWH, masoe and tasi not only lacks depth but lacks experience and also work rates. its all impact bar kennedy. compare it to the dragons or the cowboys. even as a short term option, one of those other guys would be invaluable while the other guys continue to develop and find their feet.

[Guest]

Back in 1995, Gus Gould came here along with Freddy and Sing. It took 7 years and three coaches to get a grand final win.

That's the long term plan that should be in place, barring the turnover of coaches.

I envision Todd Carney, if he stays sober, leading the Roosters to a grand final win in 2016 at the earliest.

[Funky Chicken]

JWH, Friend, Kennedy, Tasi, Cherrington, Symonds, Aubusson, Cordner, Mataka, Arona, Guerra are an excellent core group of talented young forwards who we should stick with before going out and buying a heap of players.

When FPN actually wants to play he can be the ball playing, hole running 2nd rower that we need - but at present he seems to have an acute case of Anastyphillis which sees players become lethargic, lacking energy, become obsessed with counting money and a serious shrinking of the heart muscle. Mose is another that can be devastating, but lately seems to put more effort into becoming the next BA Barracus rather than a dominating Roosters prop.

Young guys bring hunger and enthusiasm to a team, sure they make mistakes but only because they are having a go. Unlike some of the overpaid, underachieving senior players who mistakes because they don't give a shit as long as they get paid.

In reality we need an prop who can make 100+ metres each and every game, a fullback to eventually replace Mini, as well as a couple of really quick outside backs (who preferably can also tackle and catch a high ball). It also wouldn't hurt to bring in an attacking back up hooker who can ensure that Friend gets a decent rest each game and can come on at the back end of each half and try and exploit tired forwards from the opposition. I wouldn't mind seeing what Dumbrell has to offer, before we go looking outside.

[Vasco]

Save the money for a fullback and a decent winger.

Nothing wrong with our back row at full strength.

[Johnny Tobin]

Heighington no.

New fullback yes.

[Guest]

Heighington - NO!

Oldfield - Yes

Locke - Yes

Tariq Sims - Why not?

[Guest]

A replacement for Braith yes, different player to Myles though... If Braith seriously bulks up I reckon he could play lock quite successfuly, there were dime good sign on Saturday imo.

Yes. I to think braith needs to bulk up, he would be better for it...

[stephenj]

depends on the price, notice he has no ink...yet?

[crikey chris]

No to Heighington, we should not be topping up his super fund. He is dumb as dog shit.

No more backrowers. Just one prop.

[Guest]

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