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  • #16
    He and Pearce have always wanted play in the same side in senior footy and you never know it could well bring the best out of both players. If the price is right it couldn't be any worse than what we have at the moment.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Bansai Pipeline View Post
      How is he 'mentally unstable'?

      He suffers from depression. As does half of the population. It's not like he's a liability.

      And 100% of Easts fans at the moment.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Bansai Pipeline View Post
        How is he 'mentally unstable'?

        He suffers from depression. As does half of the population. It's not like he's a liability.
        Apparently also a Gambling addiction. But the two can go hand in hand.
        Roosters For Ever

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        • #19
          Originally posted by PeeGee View Post

          Apparently also a Gambling addiction. But the two can go hand in hand.
          He also has relationship problems with the mother of his two kids. Depression is quite common. It can also be very debilitating and when you're one of the best you are always in the spotlight, have media commitments and constantly speculated upon in the media. That's a pretty high risk environment for someone getting paid 50k a game.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Bigchook View Post

            He also has relationship problems with the mother of his two kids. Depression is quite common. It can also be very debilitating and when you're one of the best you are always in the spotlight, have media commitments and constantly speculated upon in the media. That's a pretty high risk environment for someone getting paid 50k a game.
            His dad is also ceo of Walmart in the u.s, family definitely not shy of $$. It's funny when people think big money means no problems in life.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Bansai Pipeline View Post
              How is he 'mentally unstable'?

              He suffers from depression. As does half of the population. It's not like he's a liability.
              Unfortunately the other half of the population do not understand the severity of depression. That's why there is such careless use of terms such as mentally unstable

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              • #22
                Are people assuming that he has had long term depression?
                I think this episode could have occurred due to the break up. I can't imagine how one would react if someone took daily access to their kids away particularly due to how young they are.

                I would take Foran in a heartbeat at a decent price. On best form BBQ wouldn't tie his shoelace.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by BUDDY View Post
                  Are people assuming that he has had long term depression?
                  I think this episode could have occurred due to the break up. I can't imagine how one would react if someone took daily access to their kids away particularly due to how young they are.

                  I would take Foran in a heartbeat at a decent price. On best form BBQ wouldn't tie his shoelace.
                  That's harsh - Maloney has proved himself top-class at 3 different clubs now.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by BUDDY View Post
                    Are people assuming that he has had long term depression?
                    I think this episode could have occurred due to the break up. I can't imagine how one would react if someone took daily access to their kids away particularly due to how young they are.

                    I would take Foran in a heartbeat at a decent price. On best form BBQ wouldn't tie his shoelace.
                    ​You are farking kidding yourself!
                    The world is full of Kings & Queens,who blind your eye's & steal your dreams!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by BUDDY View Post
                      Are people assuming that he has had long term depression?
                      I think this episode could have occurred due to the break up. I can't imagine how one would react if someone took daily access to their kids away particularly due to how young they are.

                      I would take Foran in a heartbeat at a decent price. On best form BBQ wouldn't tie his shoelace.
                      I'm not assuming anything. But no, it's definitely not within “normal” behaviour to attempt to take your life regardless of however bad his current circumstances may be. I'm not going to speculate on forans personal health but generally people don't attempt suicide and then return to normal functioning very quickly. And the greatest predictor of future suicide attempts are previous attempts.

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                      • #26
                        I truly wish him all the best and he's a fantastic player but for a mil a season he's too much of a risk for me. He's already missed two games this year and no one will know how bad it is bar keiren and that makes it difficult to negotiate a deal.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by BUDDY View Post
                          Are people assuming that he has had long term depression?
                          I think this episode could have occurred due to the break up. I can't imagine how one would react if someone took daily access to their kids away particularly due to how young they are.

                          I would take Foran in a heartbeat at a decent price. On best form BBQ wouldn't tie his shoelace.
                          Can't agree with that last statement. Firstly Foran and Maloney are completely different types of players. Foran is a game manager. Maloney is an out an out ball runner, support player. Not so much an organiser. If anything, Foran and Pearce play a similar game so I'm not sure how well they would play together.

                          If I had to choose a 5/8 to partner Pearce I would take Maloney over Foran every time. Because Maloney has what Pearce and Foran doesn't.

                          I think Foran is a very good, tough player. Nothing flashy at all. But for me Jimmy is a true 5/8 in the traditional way.
                          Embrace the Hate! JC

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by John Corey View Post

                            Can't agree with that last statement. Firstly Foran and Maloney are completely different types of players. Foran is a game manager. Maloney is an out an out ball runner, support player. Not so much an organiser. If anything, Foran and Pearce play a similar game so I'm not sure how well they would play together.

                            If I had to choose a 5/8 to partner Pearce I would take Maloney over Foran every time. Because Maloney has what Pearce and Foran doesn't.

                            I think Foran is a very good, tough player. Nothing flashy at all. But for me Jimmy is a true 5/8 in the traditional way.
                            We'll agree to disagree John. Maloney is a defensive liability. Foran is one of the toughest defending halves in the game. Foran can run the ball and support as good if not better than Maloney. He is a much better playmaker. He is a much better leader both on and off the field. If you remember many of our games, Maloney went missing. There is a reason Foran can demand more than twice the salary of Maloney. Our supporters are too fixed on our results this year and have this false belief that with Maloney in our team we would be top 4.

                            As for Foran's depression, where was it prior to one month ago? This setback is all because of a serious break up involving two young kids which he adores. His reaction would be the same as most people. Do we get rid of SKD because he went through a phase of depression. Wasn't he on suicide watch and in and out of hospital?

                            I also don't believe for a minute that Foran attempted to take his life. He overdosed on antidepressants (or whatever they were) but more by accident than intentional. And if he did attempt to take his life he wouldn't be playing again this year let alone after two weeks. His family and the club would make sure of that.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Bansai Pipeline View Post
                              How is he 'mentally unstable'?

                              He suffers from depression. As does half of the population. It's not like he's a liability.
                              Mentally stable people do not dump 75K in a two hour gambling splurge or overdoes on prescription drugs or seek help at a mental health clinic all at the same time. As with any mental health diagnosis, his actions dictate his analysis.

                              Chook.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by rwbfl View Post
                                I know we have been linked to Foran numerous times over the years. However I think now is the time to act.

                                As it stands, Hastings is out of favour. Nikorima is too young and Matterson appears to be more of a roaming lock or ball playing backrower. Either way, neither of these three options are what we currently need.

                                We lack direction. I feel Pearce has been more than solid since his return but with an 18 year old fullback (currently - perhaps Gordon) and a lack of 5/8, we are still missing direction and options in both attack and defence.

                                The Eels are a nut case. An article has been released today about half of their 2017 salary cap being tied up by 5 players (Foran, Scott, Semi, Jenko and Watmough despite his retirement), as their TPAs will reportedly be part of the salary cap. Add that to attempting to re-sign Norman and probably still attempting to chase Hayne.

                                Foran, for a vast array of reasons (not necessarily to do with the Eels club) hasn't been settled this season. Perhaps another change of scenery could be good for him. He's also good mates with Pearce which would help both on and off the field.

                                Foran is a free agent come November. I would love for us to make a play. A lot would have to align, but I wouldn't entirely discard the potential for a deal to be struck.

                                Thoughts?
                                The reason Foran is not here is because Pearce is here, those two on the town together are a disaster, it would only make things worse for the pair of them

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