Have you ever wondered why we cannot vote??

[Guest]

Yes but democracy allows you to vote and have a say.

If for example the board decided to change the clubs name, colours or location, at present the greater majority of us wouldn't be able to vote on our preferences on such contentious issues.

And in a democracy FoFF may make a comeback and may new party the POP's(Piss off Pearce) would get a say, how fantastic would that be, sign me up

[Kingsgrove-Loiner]

Don't Parra fans get a vote?

I can't imagine why we wouldn't want to go down that road, it seems to work so well for them......

[Jacks Fur Coat]

That's why we are referred to as 'fans'. I'm often amazed at times by the self importance of some fans. Not to mention the pessimistic attitude.

We have had one poor year in the last 4 , yet we should all have no faith in the people that gave us that. We need a voice!

No we don't. We just need to be fans and support our team through the good times and the bad.

Brilliant Mr Corey.

Ive been singing that tune for quite a while but it doesnt sit well with some.

[redrooster]

It would be impractical and would thwart a heap of high-profile signings if every decision had to go to club members.

You speak of the board, not 'members' when you speak of voting. Sure it's a club but what's news? When you're making as much money as guys like Nick Politis and Mark Bouris (and have the business smarts/influence) then maybe you'll get an invite. Every club have their board and boards are exclusive for a reason. Pretty sure if (for example) Bill Gates decided to join the Roosters then a board membership invite would be attached to his membership letter.

Politis' Ford dealership was the club's major sponsor for a long time. Rightly or wrongly, this earned him significant control over the board. Again... I'm sure that if you owned Steggles then you'd get more of a say about who we sign because you'd be backing up your opinion with big $$$.

Club members never have a say in which player is recruited or let go. So it would not interrupt recruitment.

The current system is not setup to give a former sponsor some say its setup to give protection and control to one man

Some people like this, but the club has lost many great rugby league people over the years just because they had a different opinion to the he who shall not be named.

The man deserves a say and input, but I disagree that he deserves the current control he has at the club.

If anything happens to the one in complete control, we have no contingency and unlike every other club would be in total disarray.

I got nothing against any of them. And this has nothing to do with our terrible season this year or the premiership in 2013.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[Johnny Tobin]

I think a benevolent dictator is better than Steve Sharp.

[Chook]

Don't be a supporter, problem solved.

Chook.

[Guest]

And in a democracy FoFF may make a comeback and may new party the POP's(Piss off Pearce) would get a say, how fantastic would that be, sign me up

Like a spring roll?

[eddie]

And in a democracy FoFF may make a comeback and may new party the POP's(Piss off Pearce) would get a say, how fantastic would that be, sign me up

poor analogy , the foff movement was motivated by more than just ruffling a few feathers , they were completely correct in their one agenda.
But I get your point.
No successful league team has ever operated under the true meaning of democracy.

[eddie]

I think a benevolent dictator is better than Steve Sharp.

He did fit the Jack Gibson coaching philosophy of "simple plays for simple players".

[redrooster]

We have had one poor year in the last 4 , yet we should all have no faith in the people that gave us that. We need a voice!

Well its got nothing to do with results on the field.

the club could win a premiership every year for the next 10 years and the many people , and yes the list is very long, would still want the clubs voting and board structure to be transparent and operate in a way that is like all companies and football clubs. Where all appointments are made in the light of day.

Board members should be selected in a transparent fashion not just on the basis of being friends with the one that matters.

The way the club is run and structured at the moment serves only one purpose and that is only to protect those on the board and keep them in power and only appoint the people they want.

Ive got nothing against any of them but the club is run as a rich mans plaything. The only difference is the powers that be dont want to openly privatise it and pay the really big dollars to do so eg like Souths. So what theyve done is they have unofficially privatised it by the constitution which doesnt allow any changes unless they approve. So they will remain in power until they decide theyve had enough or until their death.

[eddie]

Ive got nothing against any of them but the club is run as a rich mans plaything. The only difference is the powers that be dont want to openly privatise it and pay the really big dollars to do so eg like Souths. So what theyve done is they have unofficially privatised it by the constitution which doesnt allow any changes unless they approve. So they will remain in power until they decide theyve had enough or until their death.

Crap.
And garbage.

Ask George Piggins what the true difference is.

[redrooster]

Crap.
And garbage.

Ask George Piggins what the true difference is.

Could give you an even longer list of past players at our club that have been lost forever because of not seeing eye to eye with ....

ive got nothing against any of them though but if you think the club is setup in this way for any other reason than to protect those currently in power your simply wrong

Im not saying privatisation is the way to go , I would.be against that, but we are unofficially privatised as it stands currently as nothing can change unless 1 person agrees to it..

[eddie]

Could give you an even longer list of past players at our club that have been lost forever because of not seeing eye to eye with ....

Do you have a personal agenda with Polites?

[redrooster]

Do you have a personal agenda with Polites?

Ive got nothing against him or any of the current board members ..
This thread is about how and why the football club is structured in the unique way it currently is

[eddie]

Ive got nothing against him or any of the current board members ..
This thread is about how and why the football club is structured in the unique way it currently is

Sorry.
Your previous posts on this thread could be read that way.

I'm a bit out of the loop these days , so to speak, but as supporters we have to have some understanding of where our bread is buttered.
Big statement to say that anyone who thinks our club is set up just to protect those currently in power, and to give the impression that privately owned rich mans toys like souffs are somehow more transparent than our model..........kinda hurts.

I am an uncle Nick defender in some fashion, because I know how much he cares about us as a sporting team with a long history, and I sometimes worry where we'd be now without him.

Saying that we are unofficially privatised is gonna rub some supporters up the wrong way.

Goodnight , don't feel well atm