Reality - We're farked

[PeeGee]

Answering a question from another post.

NO we are not a chance, absolutely no farking chance. No top 4 and possibly miss the 8.

We have played 1 game ALL YEAR for the entire 80 mins - parra. Thats it.

This year it's between the following:

1. storm
2. Sharks
3. Manly
4. Broncos


The rest just arent tough enough, fast enough, or just plain good enough.

Been saying it for months. that the origin period combined with a really tough run home would kill us. Well its well and truly begun.

We've been smashed 2 weeks in a row - nearly all our points against the run of play. Yes Cronulla played the perfect game of footy, and Melb did last night. We looked like amateurs out there today. kids in the centres missing tackles and general bad reads in defence. Kicking game sucked. Forwards were out muscled and out enthused as was our whole team. No Gordon today and they would have easily gone well over 50. They were just playing with us - Don't wanna risk injury for origin.

Lets get serious here, we all knew 2017 was gonna be 2016 just added with more wins by under 4 points than losses. No go forward (ALL YEAR). Liu is sleep walking. Well Guerra is Guerra. Evans is a marshmallow, JWH no discipline, NAPA obviously purely an origin player now. Friend has no farking idea.

WHY DO WE STRUGGLE TO REACH OUR 30 /40 PLAYING A SET OFF OUR LINE (because opps have line speed. Has anyone noticed our line speed - exactly none cause we are happy to allow teams to eat 10 or so metres with every play. We have no line speed.

WE ARE GOOOOONNNNNEeeeeeeee. An absolute farking nightmare. The knights will lift and beat us on the back of SKD emotion.

I've been attacked for saying this but it's a fact. Liu is playing like hes on horse sedatives.

WORST OF ALL - OUR COACH STRONGLY FEELS THAT CORDNER DESERVES TO PLAY ORIGIN 3, EVEN IF ONLY 70-80% fit. What the fark. We could lose him for another 4-6 weeks. He could fark up his ankle over compensating for a farked calf.

[Guest]

complete over reaction here

[Mickie Lane]

Ive never thought for a moment that the Chooks could win the comp but they are not farked. The Tigers are.

[mightyrooster]

To quote my teenage daughter OMG.. I finally get back on the chookpen after it being down again for the past few days and this is the first post I read. A typical Chookpen reaction to a loss. The two top teams are easily Melbourne and Cronulla. I think we're just as good a chance as Manly and the Broncos. So the Broncos get smashed by the Storm and they're still in with a shot? But we aren't?

[PeeGee]

Anyone watch the presser. Robbo is in denial. Great tone, great avoidance of stating facts, Must know that we are in deep shyte.

Missing 2 forwards does not excuse how we've played the last 2 weeks (and in patches, all year).

Anyone see the Broncos season last year during and after Origin. It was over. They never recovered. THAT'S US THIS YEAR.

Also, suddenly I'm concerned about 2018. We've lost a heap of players and will lose more. Teddy is the best fullback in the world IMO, but he won't save us. IT HAS BEEN WELL OVER A YEAR AND WE HAVE NOT ADDRESSED OUR GLARING WEAKNESSES. LITTLE OR NO IMPACT OFF THE BENCH - I.E. WE ARE SHORT 1 OR 2 BIG STRONG EXPERIENCED PROPS. WE HAVE KIDS IN THE CENTRES WHO HAVE GLARING WEAKNESSES. MANU CANNOT DEFEND AT 1ST GRADE STANDARD, AND LATRELL'S READS ALSO VERY SUSPECT, AND HE LOOKS UNFIT AND SOMETIMES, FLAT-OUT, UNWILLING.

NO, I haven't been waiting for a big loss to have a rant as I've been saying the above all year, and 'obviously' 2016.

As has been said by many 'experts' out there, this year there is the Storm, Sharks and then everyone else can fight for the scraps. But,I'd also throw Manly and possibly Brisbane into the mix.

[Tommy Smith]

Settle down... we're clearly miles behind the Storm and Sharks but if the planets align we are capable.

16-8 will surely be good enough for the top 8 so I maintain that we need to take of business and win these actual home games:

v Knights
v Cowboys
v Tigers
v Titans

and then we need to win one more for 16.

If we beat Souffs this week we make the top 4. If we lose then we're walking a tight rope with away matches vs Storm Sharks and Manly to fill out thr schedule..

And from the top 4 we're a punchers chance; which is the best we could have hoped for this year.

One thing I agree on is our inability to play, as Robbo puts it, "our best footy".

We've done it once this year. And abour half a dozen times combined in 2014/2015. We're just so dumb.

Should change our name to the Sydney Boneheads.

But when it does click once every Haley's Comet sighting like vs the Eels we are brilliant.

[Mickie Lane]

Anyone watch the presser. Robbo is in denial. Great tone, great avoidance of stating facts, Must know that we are in deep shyte.

Missing 2 forwards does not excuse how we've played the last 2 weeks (and in patches, all year).

Anyone see the Broncos season last year during and after Origin. It was over. They never recovered. THAT'S US THIS YEAR.

Also, suddenly I'm concerned about 2018. We've lost a heap of players and will lose more. Teddy is the best fullback in the world IMO, but he won't save us. IT HAS BEEN WELL OVER A YEAR AND WE HAVE NOT ADDRESSED OUR GLARING WEAKNESSES. LITTLE OR NO IMPACT OFF THE BENCH - I.E. WE ARE SHORT 1 OR 2 BIG STRONG EXPERIENCED PROPS. WE HAVE KIDS IN THE CENTRES WHO HAVE GLARING WEAKNESSES. MANU CANNOT DEFEND AT 1ST GRADE STANDARD, AND LATRELL'S READS ALSO VERY SUSPECT, AND HE LOOKS UNFIT AND SOMETIMES, FLAT-OUT, UNWILLING.

NO, I haven't been waiting for a big loss to have a rant as I've been saying the above all year, and 'obviously' 2016.

As has been said by many 'experts' out there, this year there is the Storm, Sharks and then everyone else can fight for the scraps. But,I'd also throw Manly and possibly Brisbane into the mix.

Do you think Robbo thinks that?
There are at least 10 other teams that have more than just those problems.
Where not going to win the comp but they will make the semis. Better than last year.

[PeeGee]

complete over reaction here

No way, no chance, now how. We have been smashed by the sharks at Full Strength (minus a recognised hooker of course).

The club has not had quality centres for a long time now. Manu cannot tackle, SKDs we was SKDs, Fergo can read anything coming his way, and Latrell looks tired and like he could not e bothered in defence.
Don't get me started on PROPs, cause we have NO decent impact players off the bench, and we are certainly 1 or 2 big props short. NAPA is a defensive prop only, he is slow and makes bugger all yards. JWH is awesome when he wants to be, otherwise he's busy giving away penalties.

Centres and Props. Why has the club not addressed this. We've gone risky and cheap in forward recruitment. Again the club is waiting on kids to come of age. (Latrell, Connor, Niko, Manu, Butcher, etc

[Parkway_Drive]

We probably won't win the comp but we sure are not as bad as the opening poster is making out. Today was a shit day at the office, nothing more, nothing less.

To put it into perspective, this is another thread from a poster who said we would be lucky to win another game after we got flogged by the Broncos.

[PeeGee]

To quote my teenage daughter OMG.. I finally get back on the chookpen after it being down again for the past few days and this is the first post I read. A typical Chookpen reaction to a loss. The two top teams are easily Melbourne and Cronulla. I think we're just as good a chance as Manly and the Broncos. So the Broncos get smashed by the Storm and they're still in with a shot? But we aren't?

Fair point but I'm being realistic. No worries, pull the broncos out of my 'most likely' list. We have absolutely no chance of beating the Storm, and/or Sharks at full strength. Throw in Manly because they also look extremely strong in attack and defense at full strength. All these sides seem to have great depth, and impact off the bench. We don't.

[PeeGee]

We probably won't win the comp but we sure are not as bad as the opening poster is making out. Today was a shit day at the office, nothing more, nothing less.

To put it into perspective, this is another thread from a poster who said we would be lucky to win another game after we got flogged by the Broncos.

It wasn't me who said that. But we have a weak bench, and even weaker depth. Tell me how you think we can match or even beat the best sides (taking into account our obvious weaknesses?

[Steakface]

Answering a question from another post.

NO we are not a chance, absolutely no farking chance. No top 4 and possibly miss the 8.

We have played 1 game ALL YEAR for the entire 80 mins - parra. Thats it.

This year it's between the following:

1. storm
2. Sharks
3. Manly
4. Broncos


The rest just arent tough enough, fast enough, or just plain good enough.

Been saying it for months. that the origin period combined with a really tough run home would kill us. Well its well and truly begun.

We've been smashed 2 weeks in a row - nearly all our points against the run of play. Yes Cronulla played the perfect game of footy, and Melb did last night. We looked like amateurs out there today. kids in the centres missing tackles and general bad reads in defence. Kicking game sucked. Forwards were out muscled and out enthused as was our whole team. No Gordon today and they would have easily gone well over 50. They were just playing with us - Don't wanna risk injury for origin.

Lets get serious here, we all knew 2017 was gonna be 2016 just added with more wins by under 4 points than losses. No go forward (ALL YEAR). Liu is sleep walking. Well Guerra is Guerra. Evans is a marshmallow, JWH no discipline, NAPA obviously purely an origin player now. Friend has no farking idea.

WHY DO WE STRUGGLE TO REACH OUR 30 /40 PLAYING A SET OFF OUR LINE (because opps have line speed. Has anyone noticed our line speed - exactly none cause we are happy to allow teams to eat 10 or so metres with every play. We have no line speed.

WE ARE GOOOOONNNNNEeeeeeeee. An absolute farking nightmare. The knights will lift and beat us on the back of SKD emotion.

I've been attacked for saying this but it's a fact. Liu is playing like hes on horse sedatives.

WORST OF ALL - OUR COACH STRONGLY FEELS THAT CORDNER DESERVES TO PLAY ORIGIN 3, EVEN IF ONLY 70-80% fit. What the fark. We could lose him for another 4-6 weeks. He could fark up his ankle over compensating for a farked calf.

Settle Down.

We are missing Cordner and SST - both critical players in terms of defence and making meters + the Sharks literally completed 100% of their sets and had every iota of possible luck go their way.

Once those two are back + we've snagged another meter eating prop (the sooner Evans gets the fk out the better), we'll easily be in the 8 come finals time.

Also, taking into account how poor last year was, i'm bloody over the moon at where we are sitting right now.

You've got to have losses sooner or later mate.

Settle Down.

[Guest]

you are not talking like somebody who thought this season would be a repeat of last season i am on record saying i thought we would not make the top 8 and i am pleasantly surprised enjoying the season today was bad but next week is another game to play and it moves on the team was never going to be a title contender because we added keary and gordon to the team

[Bmw06i]

Settle down, we can't be blaming the coach.

Roosters played well, it was due to the Refs we lost

[Kentucky_Fried_Rooster]

I did the predictor on the NRL website and have us playing Manly in the grand final.
I have us finishing 4th.
At the moment the only team in the top 8 that has had 2 byes is Manly, so with that adjustment, we are still 3rd.
We still have a couple of losses in the regular season like every other team,
It shits me when we have a loss all the dooms-dayers come out blaming Robbo or the Refs, no team is ever going to go from round 1 to win the grand final without losing games in the modern game.