Official View: Carney's pass went backwards

[Headless Chook]

I for one feel sorry for BJ. The kid knows he isn't a winger but Smith persists with him anyway. It's obvious how good he would be at centre or second row when he takes runs early each step and tramples over players and keeps an arm free. A winger like Brett Morris is made to look like a genius when he scores 20 tries a season when realistically only 5 of those tries would be attributed to his speed and finishing ability. The other 75% are free runs to the line that come about from a structured attack that wears down the middle and attracts wide defenders by using big men running good lines on the edges. Unfortunately for BJ we have done none of this in 2011 and instead he gets the ball on the touchline with no room to move. I think you would be surprised with the amount of times BJ actually stays in the field of play under immense pressure because of ridiculous short side plays often started by a number-only backrower that thinks he's a five eighth.

The kids a talent and those that think otherwise are either idiots or just plain stupid. He's still eligible for NYC but is doing his bets playin g out of position in the toughest league in the world. He will be a superstar when they finally shift him in tighter.

[Johnny Tobin]

BJ has told me he wants to play centre.

Next season that is where he will be.

[Guest]

lmfao dice, thanks i needed that laugh.

[Guest]

I for one feel sorry for BJ. The kid knows he isn't a winger but Smith persists with him anyway. It's obvious how good he would be at centre or second row when he takes runs early each step and tramples over players and keeps an arm free. A winger like Brett Morris is made to look like a genius when he scores 20 tries a season when realistically only 5 of those tries would be attributed to his speed and finishing ability. The other 75% are free runs to the line that come about from a structured attack that wears down the middle and attracts wide defenders by using big men running good lines on the edges. Unfortunately for BJ we have done none of this in 2011 and instead he gets the ball on the touchline with no room to move. I think you would be surprised with the amount of times BJ actually stays in the field of play under immense pressure because of ridiculous short side plays often started by a number-only backrower that thinks he's a five eighth.

Great post Yak.

[Cockadoodledoo]

BJ has told me he wants to play centre.

Next season that is where he will be.

Where he belongs imho..

[supermario]

I just found this article in yesterdays herald:

Refs' error didn't decide the game: Raper Glenn Jackson
July 26, 2011
.REFEREES bosses have admitted the officials erred in ruling a forward pass by Sydney Roosters five-eighth Todd Carney on Saturday night against Wests Tigers, but they won't accept that the contentious decision cost the Roosters the game.

The Roosters were denied the chance to level the scores at 18-all in their clash at Leichhardt Oval, after Carney's pass to captain Braith Anasta was ruled forward by referee Jason Robinson on the advice of a touch judge.

Anasta and Roosters coach Brian Smith were critical of the call, while Tigers coach Tim Sheens and captain Robbie Farah felt the on-field officials had made a mistake. That was also a view held by referees co-coach Stuart Raper, who yesterday said the pass was ''flat at worst''.

Advertisement: Story continues below ''The touch judge was in a really good position, at ground level, and he thought it was forward,'' Raper said. ''We reviewed it fairly closely and we think it probably should have been play-on.''

But Raper also maintained any suggestion the decision cost the Roosters a certain try was wrong.

''When Anasta got the ball, you can see a number of players near him,'' he said. ''Tim Moltzen is still at fullback and Matt Utai is coming back. When the referee blew his whistle, Anasta was only five metres past the line. I'm not saying he wouldn't have scored, but there was a lot more that could have happened after that. ''It would be very speculative to say that Anasta was going to put the ball under the posts.''

Smith had said after the match: ''That's two games in a row where we've lost on a pass that was a couple of metres forward last weekend and this week we throw one that's not. But the referee sees it as forward.''

It is also understood several officials maintained the touch judge was correct in his view that the pass was forward. Raper's co-coach Bill Harrigan also said coaches and players were too quick to blame referees when other factors were at play.

''Whenever there's a game in the balance, or a team is defeated, it seems that we always look at one or two decisions by the referee,'' Harrigan said. ''We concede that, yes, this one might have been a try, but you can also look at the try that was disallowed [to Jake Friend in the first half] because there was a player in the offside position. Who controls that?

''There are a number of plays, and decisions, and missed tackles and dropped balls, that can affect a result. It's not just refereeing decisions.''

The match, which was clinched by a Benji Marshall field goal, has proven even more costly for the Roosters, with key forward Frank Paul Nuuausala facing a two-match suspension for a dangerous throw on Tigers prop Bryce Gibbs.

Nuuausala was hit with a grade-one charge to be dealt with at the NRL judiciary.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/l...#ixzz1TGHeKI5Z

The Part in bold is Harrigans comments........He seems not to get the point.

The Friend no try is a whole different Kettle of fish, it was a no try because Jake WAS offside in front of the kicker, there is no fault in the desicion made.

It seems billy boy cannot openly admit that his referees made a desicion that affected the outcome and momentum of the game.

These refs will not get any better, the poor form of referees will continue for A LONG TIME !! and that is across rugby league as a whole, not just with the roosters

[TheLoneRooster]

Great post Yak.

Totally agree, that was a great post by Yak.

As for Tobin's post about Leilua, that is good news which raises an obvious question (with an equally obvious answer) - which of SKD or Linnett does Joseph supplant at centre? This does not bode well for Kane.

[Guest]

Kane Linnett has speed to burn. Swap him with BJ if the idiots in the head office don't buy Michael Oldfield or Peni "Sedagive"