Watson 1:1 strip

[The Lip]

Boyd Cordner in the first half. I am probably in the minority here but I thought the pass was forward, I remember saying to a mate before the try was disallowed that we're lucky to get away with the pass but then Cummins called it forward, even on the big screen I thought it was forward.

Sorry Horrie I was asking Kingbilly which try we got awarded last week was off a "huge forward pass" I only saw the game live and didn't notice any try we scored off a forward pass other than the one that was disallowed,

[roosterproud]

there was at no stage 2 men in the tackle. Connor started the tackle and kane stood back watching the strip. cummonyaface blew it again simple. The rules of the game state if there are 2 guys in the initial tackle , that will be deemed a 2 man tackle. If 1 tackles and then falls of the player and the second one come in and he strips thats fine. one on one

[Tommy Smith]

A Titans player was 5m offside from the kickoff after we scored to make it 12-16.

The ref was RIGHT THERE.

Unbelievable.

[Johnny Tobin]

technically, it was the correct call, all a second defender has to do is brush the player, and technically, it is a two man tackle.

Yes but every other time it has been allowed a try. I can't recall ever seeing one like that disallowed.

[horrie hastings]

Sorry Horrie I was asking Kingbilly which try we got awarded last week was off a "huge forward pass" I only saw the game live and didn't notice any try we scored off a forward pass other than the one that was disallowed,

No problems, I didn't read Kingbilly's post, I only read the post from Jacks Fur Coat who was talking about a forward pass call against us.

[Kingbilly]

Sorry Horrie I was asking Kingbilly which try we got awarded last week was off a "huge forward pass" I only saw the game live and didn't notice any try we scored off a forward pass other than the one that was disallowed,

The one that we scored in the corner, either Gordon passed it or recieved it..

I am not so sure about Evans touching Hayne, I thought he might have only touched Watson

[TheLoneRooster]

The one that we scored in the corner, either Gordon passed it or recieved it..

I am not so sure about Evans touching Hayne, I thought he might have only touched Watson

Gordon reaching back for the ball whilst being in front of Manu makes it look forward. Line ball that one, just like Cordner's in the first half.
As for the one on one strip, what roosterproud writes in post #17 is how I thought the rule worked - Kane was not involved at the point of the strip as he had technically fallen off the tackle.

[Guest]

cummonyaface blew it again simple.

Yo this offends me you know what Im sayin. Yo is you some kind of caveman you know what Im sayin. You know this is 2017 yo?

I thought Kane maybe just got a hand in there you know what Im sayin. Agree that the pass to Corder was slightly forward yo butI still cant believe the reaction to Tets. I call it clean yo

[The Lip]

The one that we scored in the corner, either Gordon passed it or recieved it..

I am not so sure about Evans touching Hayne, I thought he might have only touched Watson

That wasn't forward KB no way. Watch it again. I applause your efforts to stay objective but you seem to have gone too far. The cordner one that was disallowed as well he would have let go 95% of the time - just not the 5% when he refs us. I can say it was marginally forward though but he wouldn't of pulled it back for the tits. Check out our stats for penalties for and against under cummins - they are that far from the average of the stats for all other refs including cummins.

If if you google roosters record under cummins it's the first site google throws up - its shocking.

[Johnny Tobin]

Here are the Rules:

https://www.nrl.com/portals/nrl/RadE...ook%202016.pdf

And here is the part to do with this:

Where a player steals the ball from a player on whom he is effecting a tackle, play will be allowed to continue. Where two or more players are effecting the same tackle - irrespective of whether all but one “drops off” the tackle, and the ball is subsequently taken from the tackled player, a penalty will be awarded against the player or players effecting the tackle unless the tackled player is attempting to ground the ball for a try

So it depends on whether the other player who drops off was "effecting a tackle" first. Cummins' interpretation that Evans was "effecting a tackle" is more of the same crap that we have been copping since he was appointed to first grade.

[PeeGee]

If if you google roosters record under cummins it's the first site google throws up - its shocking.

Awesome stats, but they end in 2016.................I'd love to know what the stats are updated !!

[ism22]

Here are the Rules:

https://www.nrl.com/portals/nrl/RadE...ook%202016.pdf

And here is the part to do with this:

Where a player steals the ball from a player on whom he is effecting a tackle, play will be allowed to continue. Where two or more players are effecting the same tackle - irrespective of whether all but one “drops off” the tackle, and the ball is subsequently taken from the tackled player, a penalty will be awarded against the player or players effecting the tackle unless the tackled player is attempting to ground the ball for a try

So it depends on whether the other player who drops off was "effecting a tackle" first. Cummins' interpretation that Evans was "effecting a tackle" is more of the same crap that we have been copping since he was appointed to first grade.

Yeah but read it again...

'irrespective of whether all but one “drops off” the tackle, and the ball is subsequently taken from the tackled player,'

Did 'all but one' drop off? I think he broke the tackle completely then ran back at Watson (because there was no space to his right) and the ball was stripped during a 2nd, single man tackle. That's why it looked so damn awkward.

I accept that this is clearly not how Cummins saw it.

[Johnny Tobin]

Yeah but read it again...

'irrespective of whether all but one “drops off” the tackle, and the ball is subsequently taken from the tackled player,'

Did 'all but one' drop off? I think he broke the tackle completely then ran back at Watson (because there was no space to his right) and the ball was stripped during a 2nd, single man tackle. That's why it looked so damn awkward.

I accept that this is clearly not how Cummins saw it.

It says irrespective, which means it doesn't matter if all but one dropped off.

Cummins is saying he thought the other player who "dropped off" was "effecting a tackle" before he dropped off. Ridiculous to anyone but Cummins - but sadly true. I mean, he didn't even drop off let alone effect a tackle. He put a finger on him.

[Johnny Tobin]

I can't see us getting Cummins again as the main referee for the rest of the year. With only two games per week the best that clown could hope for would be a pocket role.

[The Lip]

What about this ripper from Benny C