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  • #46
    I would rather wing over toops any day.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Vasco View Post
      Agreed. According to others however he's "busted", "over the hill", a "vermin" or "past his best".

      Jake Friend or Craig Wing?

      Simple answer really.
      Vasco,

      You're pretty spot on most times, but this one......

      Friend for sure. Stick with youth. You watch Pearce, Friend and Ferrett in the next 2-3 years. They'll be our cornerstone from which we'll rise from this darkness.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Samwise View Post
        Vasco,

        You're pretty spot on most times, but this one......

        Friend for sure. Stick with youth. You watch Pearce, Friend and Ferrett in the next 2-3 years. They'll be our cornerstone from which we'll rise from this darkness.

        Friend will not be a above average FG player. Wing brings an X factor to teams.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by supermario View Post
          Coggy you should change your name to Mr Hindsight !

          Last year you would have had little clue who winterstein was and you also spent most of last season calling toops useless.
          Mario it's not about my hindsight it's about the people in the club who's job it is to recognise talent. It seems that we have no one with any idea. Why do you think Brisbane signed him? Here is a club who hasn't missed the semis for 20 years and have won 6 premierships in that time, they're doing something right. I'd say The Broncos are a thousand times smarter than the Roosters, wouldn't you? and also don't presume that I was bagging Tupou last year, I was always a fan. He was the best forward we had by a long way and I was extremely pissed off when he was allowed to leave. I knew we were in for a crap year, you just had to look at the team to see that.
          Last edited by Rooster Cogburn; 06-11-2009, 08:07 AM.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Rooster Cogburn View Post
            Mario it's not about my hindsight it's about the people in the club who's job it is to recognise talent. It seems that we have no one with any idea. Why do you think Brisbane signed him? Here is a club who hasn't missed the semis for 20 years and have won 6 premieships in that time, they're doing something right. I'd say The Broncos are a thousand times smarter than the Roosters, wouln't you?


            Brisbane signed him because he was off contract and needed back up players. The cards have fallen into place for him and he is playing good football. With the way our team is playing, do you really think we would get the same performace from winterstein as brisbane are getting???

            Being close to family would have sweetened the deal for him to go to Brisbane.

            When he played in our under 20 side, he was not performing well, at the start of this season, thie wing spot was contested between wintersten and Yao Yhe, if Yao Yeh had of played better in the first couple of games, the story could have been differet.

            it is not as easy as saying, "he is an ex rooster, he is killing it somewhere else, we should have kept him"

            In reality, as i said earlier, the way we are going at the moment, would winterstein have made a difference and secondly would he be playing this good if he was in our side at the moment??

            the Answer to both is NO. and in reality, if wif we were winning, you would not even be considering Winterstein to return.

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            • #51
              It's obvious to anyone with at least half a brain that Brisbane signed him because they recognised some massive potential, something that our stupid club couldn't spot.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Rooster Cogburn View Post
                It's obvious to anyone with at least half a brain that Brisbane signed him because they recognised some massive potential, something that our stupid club couldn't spot.

                Maybe but to some extent a winger is only as good as the men inside him - Wallace, Lockyer, Folau, Hodges as well as Hunt at 1.

                Pretty hard to compare. Just about any winger would be starring as part of that backline (Todd Byrne notwithstanding)

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Samwise View Post
                  Vasco,

                  You're pretty spot on most times, but this one......

                  Friend for sure. Stick with youth. You watch Pearce, Friend and Ferrett in the next 2-3 years. They'll be our cornerstone from which we'll rise from this darkness.
                  Fair enough mate. I guess I'm just frustrated like all of us.

                  Whilst it's nice to show faith in Friend, we need to ask ourselves whether he will be the answer to our dummy half woes. The player wearing the no.9 these days must be dynamic as well as a good footballer. Friend has the football skills but does he have the speed?

                  He is still young which is in his favour, but can he find a few extra yards of pace?
                  Born and bred in the eastern suburbs.

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                  • #54
                    Never was it mentioned here that Winterstein was a goer last year...(or Tamou)..

                    Nobody even commented when he left...

                    And SKD would have scored twice the tries Winterstein has for the Broncos...

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Vasco View Post
                      Fair enough mate. I guess I'm just frustrated like all of us.

                      Whilst it's nice to show faith in Friend, we need to ask ourselves whether he will be the answer to our dummy half woes. The player wearing the no.9 these days must be dynamic as well as a good footballer. Friend has the football skills but does he have the speed?

                      He is still young which is in his favour, but can he find a few extra yards of pace?
                      He is quick enough. You don't have to be a fast runner, to play fast!

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Pass the Ball View Post
                        Never was it mentioned here that Winterstein was a goer last year...(or Tamou)..

                        Nobody even commented when he left...

                        And SKD would have scored twice the tries Winterstein has for the Broncos...
                        Exactly! Everyone is saying how stupid we were for releasing them. I never heard about them before this season

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                        • #57
                          Obviously the Brisbane talent scouts knew something that the Easts guys didn't. Given our crap backline Winterstein would've come in very handy.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Rooster Cogburn View Post
                            Obviously the Brisbane talent scouts knew something that the Easts guys didn't. Given our crap backline Winterstein would've come in very handy.
                            not really, he needs quality players inside him.
                            Look at Hunt when you take Lockyer away, he is rubbish
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Rooster Cogburn View Post
                              Obviously the Brisbane talent scouts knew something that the Easts guys didn't. Given our crap backline Winterstein would've come in very handy.
                              Winterstein looks good because he is playing on the end of the Brisbane backline. Throw any of our wingers onto the end of that backline, and they will score tries. Yes, even Sonny

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                              • #60
                                Sometimes players leave beacuse they want to. Occassionaly it is their choice and not the clubs to go to another team. There have been examples where there is no mention of a players potential until he has moved to another club and IF he performs there is a cry that we should not have let him go.

                                It would be interesting to list the amount of players that played with the Roosters in the last 5 years, that have now gone to other clubs and how they are performing. I am not just talking about entrenched first graders, but all the juniors as well.

                                I had never heard of Winterstien till this year either.

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