Slaters shoulder charge, gooone.

[chopstiks]

Are they the same clowns who judge the CC medal ?
unbeknown to younger fans the GF mom award use to be the Dave Brown award.

It'll probably be Mal "common sense prevails" Meninga and Gordon "he didn't hurt anyone" Tallis and Laurie "Im juat happy to be here and dont have a thought of my own" Daley.

[Frozen Chook]

I am in my 5th decades of watching this game and a big consumer of the game over the years playing, coaching and refereeing, whether in Sydney suburban grounds or country ovals across the state. For many years each week I would watch a combination of a CRL game, local juniors and more than half of the week's NRL including a live Easts game.

My confidence in the NRL’s integrity and ethics in decision making and game officiating is at an all time low.

i am not interested in this "product" people keep referring to. This decision is the ugly side of the turning of the game into a “ product”.

Given the intrinsic strength of our game it takes a high level of ineptitude, greed and mismanagement to allow for it to be overtaken by other sporting codes

Todd Greenberg this is your legacy.

[Louis N]

Thats it Louis.

And I will take that a step further and say if he WAS suspended for the GF, the pendulum swings to them in the attitude/desire stakes, and we would have mentally relaxed a little.

Now we maintain or perhaps even intensify that desire.

They have no excuses .....Perfect.

It's always better being the outsider Jack and we can't be complacent now. Billy will be under more pressure than anyone on that field. He knows that he lied through his teeth at that judiciary hearing and that he shouldered Feki into touch. No risk about it. But I'm glad he's in there. Everyone saying that Slater can win it for the Storm. I now view him as a possible weakness. Sounds crazy I know but the pressure is all on him.

Friend (apart from his kick out on the full) gave good service last week and did his usual cleaning up, I think our pack is hugely under rated as we have some really big hitters. Not only Napa, but also Tetevano and Radley, JWH knows how to put a big hit on, plus Latrell enjoys going in hard too as does Fergo. And Aubbo's timing has really stood out with his defence in 2018.

For mine it's the guys who don't get recognised as much that will prove the difference. I had huge faith in Joey Manu before this finals series and said so here and he hasn't put a foot wrong. Matterson is hugely under-rated. He kept Munster on the bench for the Australian schoolboys in the halves a couple of years back. Bulked up and slowed down now but is a really solid defender and made a couple of real ground gainers last week when we were under the pump. It's his last game as a Rooster and he'll be giving it his all. They all will.

As long as we can fly under the radar and don't get spooked by the occasion, I think we'll win and win well. The Storm have to crack soon. I don't think they are the team they were last year and we are a much better side that last year. If we can contain their wings I think we can take them out. The key will be how we go without our little general Cooper. If so, the boys have to lift. We can't have a premiership decided by injuries and lucky judiciary decisions. The Storm were fortunate to meet a depleted and tired Cronulla side. The Roosters however are cock-a-hoop at being there and have a lot of players in their prime. I think we have more ammo than our opposition.

[Frozen Chook]

Yes all a fair assessment of where we sit LouisN

GO EASTS

[Rooster_6]

What are your thoughts on the NRL using their 3rd choice prosecutor for this? A rookie at NRL judicial hearings in charge of the biggest hearing in history.

That stinks to its core.

Hard for me to comment, I don't know who the 3 prosecutor's are.

It's a very poor decision, to say it wasn't a shoulder charge beggars belief but I don't believe we should confuse incompetency with corruption.

[Random Rooster]

Hard for me to comment, I don't know who the 3 prosecutor's are.

It's a very poor decision, to say it wasn't a shoulder charge beggars belief but I don't believe we should confuse incompetency with corruption.

Judiciary decision imminent

All parties and media have been asked to leave the room as the judiciary panel deliberate on Slater’s guilt or innocence.

It comes after a 10-minute address from judiciary chairman Geoff Bellew has told panel members emotion around Slater’s and the grand final is irrelevant in their determination.

Bellew also said there are two questions for the panel to deliberate on:

1. Was there forceful contact with the shoulder or upper arm? Bellew says if your answer is no, then he is not guilty.

If you answer yes you need to consider:

2. Was the forceful contact made without Slater using or attempting to use both his arms including his hands to tackle or otherwise take hold of the opposing player.


So lets answer question 1. Obviously there was forceful contact with the shoulder.....its black and white. Lets move on to question 2. Obviously Slater didn't attempt in any way to use either of his arms to take hold of the opposing player....its also black and white.

So my question is why did the panel completely ignore the judiciary chairmans 2 questions to deliberate on??? Sean Garlick is a successful businessman in his own right, Bob Lindner is a university educated optometrist, Mal Cochrane is a ex cop.....these guys aren't stupid and are ex first grade players so lets rule out incompetency. What are we left with?

[Roosters1908]

Sean Garlick is a successful businessman in his own right, Bob Lindner is a university educated optometrist, Mal Cochrane is a ex cop.....these guys aren't stupid and are ex first grade players so lets rule out incompetency. What are we left with?

None of this rules out incompetence, but I get your point; it’s incompetence on a monumental scale or arrogant corruption without fear of reprisal. Neither is a happy thought.

But on the positive side, last week it was Burgess and his escape from justice, and we ended up beating Souths all over the park. And that was without Latrell, who I still think should never have been rubbed out, and Napa, who could have used Slater’s lawyer. This week it’s Billy the grub. Let’s hope the pattern of winning despite the fairytale engineering continues.

[Rooster_6]

Judiciary decision imminent

All parties and media have been asked to leave the room as the judiciary panel deliberate on Slater’s guilt or innocence.

It comes after a 10-minute address from judiciary chairman Geoff Bellew has told panel members emotion around Slater’s and the grand final is irrelevant in their determination.

Bellew also said there are two questions for the panel to deliberate on:

1. Was there forceful contact with the shoulder or upper arm? Bellew says if your answer is no, then he is not guilty.

If you answer yes you need to consider:

2. Was the forceful contact made without Slater using or attempting to use both his arms including his hands to tackle or otherwise take hold of the opposing player.


So lets answer question 1. Obviously there was forceful contact with the shoulder.....its black and white. Lets move on to question 2. Obviously Slater didn't attempt in any way to use either of his arms to take hold of the opposing player....its also black and white.

So my question is why did the panel completely ignore the judiciary chairmans 2 questions to deliberate on??? Sean Garlick is a successful businessman in his own right, Bob Lindner is a university educated optometrist, Mal Cochrane is a ex cop.....these guys aren't stupid and are ex first grade players so lets rule out incompetency. What are we left with?

Incompetence isn't the same as incapable. I'm not questioning their credentials but there is a human element to all of this, an emotional argument to let a retiring legend of the game play his last game in a grand final.

It's not right and they were told not to factor it in but it's near impossible not to given the coverage it received this over the last 3 or 4 days.

There's no evidence to suggest corruption other than an extremely poor decision. Millions of poor decisions are made every day at an individual and group level, just because someone was capable of making a better decision doesn't mean that they were corrupt in not doing so... it's not that simple.

I think it's a huge leap to assasinate someone's chatacter in such a fashion without any shred of evidence.

[bondi.boy]

http://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/rugby...&OCID=AVRES000

"I'd like to thank the judiciary members for a fair hearing," Slater said.

"It was important for me tonight to get my point across and what my intentions were in this incident.

"My preparations for the game starts now. I am grateful for all the support the club has shown me."

The Storm's legal team had argued Slater was trying to brace for the impact of the collision with Feki and he found himself in what he described to the judiciary panel as a "vulnerable position".

Slater, who was joined by Storm coach Craig Bellamy at the hearing, claimed he had to protect himself "slightly" with his left shoulder but had always intended to make the tackle by trying to wrap his right arm around Feki.

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LOL

Oh please.

One arm is not enough, you have to have two arms and two hands.

Yes, and Latrell's intention was not to crusher tackle Inglis...and Napa's intention was to tackle around the chest.
No mercy for them.

It's a cruel world.

[zac]

Obviously the decision was wrong and Melbourne are the undeserving beneficiaries. Still, it would have been just luck for us for him to have been out. The real losers from the tackle were the Sharks, who would normally have expected to be playing against 12 men for 10 minutes. Also, Slater's illegal tackle probably did damage to Feki's shoulder and contributed to him exiting the game when he got another knock on the tackle.

[zac]

another knock on the shoulder

[zac]

Bellamy's come out saying that while he's happy with the result from the judiciary, he would have preferred if the hearing had been 24 hours earlier …

Cheeky prick.

[roosterchook]

None of this rules out incompetence, but I get your point; it’s incompetence on a monumental scale or arrogant corruption without fear of reprisal. Neither is a happy thought.

But on the positive side, last week it was Burgess and his escape from justice, and we ended up beating Souths all over the park. And that was without Latrell, who I still think should never have been rubbed out, and Napa, who could have used Slater’s lawyer. This week it’s Billy the grub. Let’s hope the pattern of winning despite the fairytale engineering continues.

So when it’s Burgess or slater it’s let go but if it’s Pearce or Mitchelk or Napa or JWH the book is thrown at them! Can’t you see the outright bias? The win is irrelevant.Pearce was out fir what 8 weeks, ruined our season. We are continually being disadvantaged when others are let go free- why?

[B-bb-gark]

Yep same thing used to happen if Matai ran anywhere near Slater he was on report ... and NRL destroyed Bret Stewart's career .... Melbourne & Broncos are Greenturds untouchable darlings

[Random Rooster]

There's no evidence to suggest corruption other than an extremely poor decision. Millions of poor decisions are made every day at an individual and group level, just because someone was capable of making a better decision doesn't mean that they were corrupt in not doing so... it's not that simple.

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I guess OJ Simpsons acquittal in the trial of the century was also a extremely poor decision.
If it looks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck then you can be pretty bloody sure its a duck! It took the judiciary 12 minutes to decide in denying Latrells appeal. It should have taken the same judiciary no more than 12 minutes to decide on Slaters appeal. If i ever commit a felony id love the same 3 dingbats to be on the jury.....because you can be pretty sure that the right person/organisation can sway their decision in your favour by overlooking the evidence in front of them.
In the end the decision is made. Slater will play.Its only a game of footy and we move on......but the stench and fallout of that decision will linger for some time yet