More salary cap rorts

[Kentucky_Fried_Rooster]

Don't know how reliable this bloke is but he is saying 3 high profile clubs are about to be caught out.

https://twitter.com/ReadingThePlay/s...503297/photo/1

Most likely a click-bait article but more and more clubs will get caught, just get rid of the salary cap. Why should clubs like ours be held back because others can't fund there way.
I'm guessing Storm, Broncos & Souths.
Why can't these clubs look how uncle Nick runs a club, under budget, attracts the stars without cheating.

[Random Rooster]

Well read the following to get a gauge on how reputable this fellas reputation is........

https://twitter.com/ReadingThePlay/s...86718370533377

His confidence in some of his replies " get back to me when it all comes out" & " i don't make things up"......and even has the nerve to say the Roosters are showing Cordner no loyalty and have zero class.
Even better is some of the morons basking in any negative Rooster news.....even when it's made up by this dart thrower

[stephenj]

i call bs fake news

[Kingbilly]

One of the un "great" things about social media, You can call your self and expert and just make shit up.
I prefer the old method of just making shit up and not calling yourself and expert

BTW anyone that thinks clubs are not doing some stuff outside the normal parameters are kidding themselves its only the idiots that get caught

[TumutChook]

Agreed Kingbilly.
All clubs are doing something dodgy ,no matter what the capacity it may be.And im as 100% biased as any Chooks fan but nothing surer than the fact that you can't assemble the list we have while being compliant.The players are getting kickbacks,hand outs or other somewhere down the line.I mean a player may want to play for a club for say 100k a year over a garbage club or over moving states but anymore than 100k i dont believe.

[ism22]

Agreed Kingbilly.
All clubs are doing something dodgy ,no matter what the capacity it may be.And im as 100% biased as any Chooks fan but nothing surer than the fact that you can't assemble the list we have while being compliant.The players are getting kickbacks,hand outs or other somewhere down the line.I mean a player may want to play for a club for say 100k a year over a garbage club or over moving states but anymore than 100k i dont believe.

A few numbers for thought:
- Minimum wage is $100k.
- Salary cap is $9.6 million for 30 players.
- Average salary is $320 a year.
- Cronk and Teddy are on $1 million a year so in reality it's $7.6 million being divided amongst 30 players (with 2 captains in there, Crichton, Keary, JWH..etc who I'd suggest are probably all on more than $600k a season).

My opinion:
- A lot of good players are on somewhere between $100k and $200k so an offer of a $100k pay rise would be big. Playing Origin and playing for Australia could offset this amount easily though.
- The Roosters don't seem to salary match. For example with RTS, Fergo, Napa, Matto...etc we just shrugged and released them. Good budgeting like this mitigates the risk of going over the cap.
- A regular 1st grader isn't gonna wanna play for much less than $250k a year given the pressures involved. A keen fringe player will. Thus, competition brings down people's salary expectations (e.g. Morris, Hall, Lewis and Ikuvalu probably cost less combined than what Fergo's getting at Parra).
- There's a lot of stuff that legitimately doesn't count under the cap. Much of this wouldn't have a dollar value either (e.g. a commerce degree + beers with Bouris and his banking mates every Friday night - PRICELESS!)
- Success breeds success. If I were 18 and super talented, I'd be prioritising the Roosters and Storm because I reckon they'd give me the best opportunities, regardless of salary.

[Headless Chook]

A few numbers for thought:
- Minimum wage is $100k.
- Salary cap is $9.6 million for 30 players.
- Average salary is $320 a year.
- Cronk and Teddy are on $1 million a year so in reality it's $7.6 million being divided amongst 30 players (with 2 captains in there, Crichton, Keary, JWH..etc who I'd suggest are probably all on more than $600k a season).

My opinion:
- A lot of good players are on somewhere between $100k and $200k so an offer of a $100k pay rise would be big. Playing Origin and playing for Australia could offset this amount easily though.
- The Roosters don't seem to salary match. For example with RTS, Fergo, Napa, Matto...etc we just shrugged and released them. Good budgeting like this mitigates the risk of going over the cap.
- A regular 1st grader isn't gonna wanna play for much less than $250k a year given the pressures involved. A keen fringe player will. Thus, competition brings down people's salary expectations (e.g. Morris, Hall, Lewis and Ikuvalu probably cost less combined than what Fergo's getting at Parra).
- There's a lot of stuff that legitimately doesn't count under the cap. Much of this wouldn't have a dollar value either (e.g. a commerce degree + beers with Bouris and his banking mates every Friday night - PRICELESS!)
- Success breeds success. If I were 18 and super talented, I'd be prioritising the Roosters and Storm because I reckon they'd give me the best opportunities, regardless of salary.

Probably your best post ever mate

[HEGtheROOSTER]

A few numbers for thought:
- Minimum wage is $100k.
- Salary cap is $9.6 million for 30 players.
- Average salary is $320 a year.
- Cronk and Teddy are on $1 million a year so in reality it's $7.6 million being divided amongst 30 players (with 2 captains in there, Crichton, Keary, JWH..etc who I'd suggest are probably all on more than $600k a season).

My opinion:
- A lot of good players are on somewhere between $100k and $200k so an offer of a $100k pay rise would be big. Playing Origin and playing for Australia could offset this amount easily though.
- The Roosters don't seem to salary match. For example with RTS, Fergo, Napa, Matto...etc we just shrugged and released them. Good budgeting like this mitigates the risk of going over the cap.
- A regular 1st grader isn't gonna wanna play for much less than $250k a year given the pressures involved. A keen fringe player will. Thus, competition brings down people's salary expectations (e.g. Morris, Hall, Lewis and Ikuvalu probably cost less combined than what Fergo's getting at Parra).
- There's a lot of stuff that legitimately doesn't count under the cap. Much of this wouldn't have a dollar value either (e.g. a commerce degree + beers with Bouris and his banking mates every Friday night - PRICELESS!)
- Success breeds success. If I were 18 and super talented, I'd be prioritising the Roosters and Storm because I reckon they'd give me the best opportunities, regardless of salary.

Spot on.

The real talent in football these days is list management, and whilst nobody is perfect, we are pretty good at it...

[RoosterChick]

A few numbers for thought:
- Minimum wage is $100k.
- Salary cap is $9.6 million for 30 players.
- Average salary is $320 a year.
- Cronk and Teddy are on $1 million a year so in reality it's $7.6 million being divided amongst 30 players (with 2 captains in there, Crichton, Keary, JWH..etc who I'd suggest are probably all on more than $600k a season).

My opinion:
- A lot of good players are on somewhere between $100k and $200k so an offer of a $100k pay rise would be big. Playing Origin and playing for Australia could offset this amount easily though.
- The Roosters don't seem to salary match. For example with RTS, Fergo, Napa, Matto...etc we just shrugged and released them. Good budgeting like this mitigates the risk of going over the cap.
- A regular 1st grader isn't gonna wanna play for much less than $250k a year given the pressures involved. A keen fringe player will. Thus, competition brings down people's salary expectations (e.g. Morris, Hall, Lewis and Ikuvalu probably cost less combined than what Fergo's getting at Parra).
- There's a lot of stuff that legitimately doesn't count under the cap. Much of this wouldn't have a dollar value either (e.g. a commerce degree + beers with Bouris and his banking mates every Friday night - PRICELESS!)
- Success breeds success. If I were 18 and super talented, I'd be prioritising the Roosters and Storm because I reckon they'd give me the best opportunities, regardless of salary.

Totally agree. Only question mark, I was of the assumption that Teddy signed on for a great deal less than $1 million. As I recall his main aim was to play finals football and coming from a family who was not short of a quid, money was not the incentive.
But yeah, having good money management when it comes to the cap and shedding players of caliber if need be to stay cap compliant is what makes the difference between us and the rest of the competition.

[Spirit of 66]

This says it all:

Sydney Roosters chairman Nick Politis defends Angus Crichton deal: 'We run our salary cap better than most clubs'

If South Sydney decide to reprint the Book of Feuds, there's a new chapter that must be included on the simmering hostility with the Roosters over Angus Crichton.

The 21-year-old back-rower told the Rabbitohs at the weekend he had joined their foundation club arch rivals on a three-year deal from 2019. It was a considerable body blow to the Redfern club. Crichton this year played strong, done fine, as former Souths and Roosters coach Jack Gibson might say.
Souths reckon Crichton's deal is worth about $1 million a year, and they just couldn't match it. The Roosters say that's bullshit: more like $700,000 a year, which is slightly more than Souths' offer and around the same that Cronulla put on the table.

All-powerful Roosters chairman Nick Politis doesn't want to talk too much about Crichton before his deal is done. An announcement is expected in days, though.

But he bristled at claims of the million-buck deal, even though that seems to be the asking rate for a young player who has strung together a couple of man-of-the-match performances.

"The numbers that have been quoted are totally wrong," Politis said bluntly.

The Roosters suspect Souths are floating the exorbitant figures to divert attention from their losing one of their hottest players to the club their fans abhor the most, with the possible exception of Manly. Souths were on the front foot on Monday morning, sending an email to members saying they couldn't keep up with another club's offer.

At face value, $1 million for a player of Crichton's ability and experience seems way too much, regardless of how well he played in 2017 and how well he'll play in years to come, according to better judges than this one.

Roosters and NSW captain Boyd Cordner is off contract at the end of next year. He'll be lucky to touch the magical million-buck mark, too, even if he deserves it as much as any other forward in the game. He's only 25 but his body knows how to find an injury, so he could take less in exchange for the security of a longer-term deal.

Crichton had reasons to join the Roosters other than money. He's said before he was a Roosters fan as a kid growing up in Young, adoring the likes of Brad Fittler and Craig Fitzgibbon.

He played four matches for their SG Ball side in 2014 and was coached by Adam Hartigan, who is now the Roosters' recruitment manager. "He's been a Rooster since he was a kid," Politis said.

What Politis and the Roosters also find bemusing are constant potshots, theories and suspicions about the salary cap, and whether they adhere to it. The pub test would suggest they do not, unless that pub was Ravesis on Bondi Beach.

Clubs don't have to convince the pub but the NRL, and on that score, not a single eyebrow was raised at headquarters when news broke on Monday about Crichton's deal.

Presumably, the NRL's salary cap auditors agree with the Roosters' argument that they have turned over a stack of players since they won the 2013 grand final and their only significant signings since then have been James Tedesco and Cooper Cronk.

Since 2013, the club has lost the likes of Sonny Bill Williams, Anthony Minichello, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck Michael Jennings, James Maloney, Aidan Guerra, Shaun Kenny-Dowall, Dale Copley, Jackson Hastings, Connor Watson, Kane Evans, Michael Gordon and Jayden Nikorima …

Oh, and Mitchell Pearce.

"We plan five years ahead with our recruitment," Politis said. "We run our salary cap better than most clubs. We don't back-end contracts, we don't put in ratchet clauses that stymie some clubs. We don't have many third-party agreements. We make some hard calls. We don't always get it right but we correct them quickly.

"The bottom line is there are 10 to 12 players we let go in the last 12 months, and one very expensive one was Pearcey, who covers Cronk. We also had $600,000 left from 2016."

Politis also points out the salary cap jumps from $7 million in 2017 to $9.4 million next year and more than $10 million in 2022.

"The salary cap went up by $2 million — you don't have to be Einstein to work it out," he said. "Every club should have spare cash. It was a fair increase. I don't understand how some clubs don't have enough left."

Doubtless, all of this will fall on the deaf ears of rival fans, not just those of South Sydney.

The Roosters have become the New York Yankees of the NRL: the glamour club from the most glamorous city in the country that has an uncanny ability to snaffle all the glamour players.

Comparisons can be drawn between Politis and late Yankees owner George Steinbrenner (the real one, not the one portrayed on Seinfeld) because he's hands-on and chases down big-name players like it's a business deal.

In 2002, former Boston Red Sox CEO Larry Lucchino said of his side and Yankees: "We are like the Jedi Knights taking on the Evil Empire in Star Wars."

South Sydney are certainly trying to position themselves as Jedi Knights – the battlers from the rough side of Anzac Parade who just so happen to be part-owned by a Hollywood star and a businessman worth close to $5 billion.

Politis, also worth many more hundreds of millions than you and me, chuckles his trademark "He, he, he" chuckle when you ask why other clubs keep hating on the poor old Chooks.

"We're the high-flyers from the eastern suburbs," he grinned. "History has always been against the Roosters. They moved the boundaries and brought in the 13-import rule to slow us down. Easts were always the glamour team, with the likes of Perc Galea and Jack Gibson and others involved. They all had that connection. Everyone is jealous of the Roosters. This has been going on for 50 years."

And counting.

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Souths co-owner Russell Crowe commissioned Rabbitohs tragic Mark Courtney about 10 years ago to write the Book of Feuds, detailing the club's rivalries with other clubs. It needs another chapter.

May this feud never, ever end.

[Mickie Lane]

I have no idea what the Roosters are up to in regards to managing the salary cap but I do know they have a brilliant operator in Nick Politis. You dont become a billionaire unless you are a very smart business man.