Latrell 0% chance of being at the club in 2021

[Jacks Fur Coat]

Firstly, the weren’t killed because of their skin colour - what a ridiculous conclusion to draw. They were killed at the time because the settlers saw it as an opportunity to claim land over an inferior group (in terms of weaponry and resources). They could’ve been black, white, yellow, red or bloody purple, they were going to be invaded.

Secondly, for how long are a select few going to continue playing the victim card? Whitlam returned the land to Mabo (I think), Rudd apologised on behalf of the Australian people, and we’ve introduced a “Welcome to Country” speech just to name a few things.

Well said Kegs.

You have to move on ...crickey . C'mon Zac were over here.

[Old Man Rooster]

Mods it may be time to close this thread before it gets ugly.

No need to close it. We can discuss this without resorting to name calling.

[Old Man Rooster]

Firstly, the weren’t killed because of their skin colour - what a ridiculous conclusion to draw. They were killed at the time because the settlers saw it as an opportunity to claim land over an inferior group (in terms of weaponry and resources). They could’ve been black, white, yellow, red or bloody purple, they were going to be invaded.

Secondly, for how long are a select few going to continue playing the victim card? Whitlam returned the land to Mabo (I think), Rudd apologised on behalf of the Australian people, and we’ve introduced a “Welcome to Country” speech just to name a few things.

Yeah and forget about the genocide and destruction and denial of culture for over 200 years. No need to mention the Indigenous resistance to the Colonial forces. No need to remember that they were treated as animals due to the fact that the Europeans denied they had writing as they did not have an alphabet. Yeah Keggs, nothing to worry about mate. How about those stolen generations??

[keggs1]

Yeah and forget about the genocide and destruction and denial of culture for over 200 years. No need to mention the Indigenous resistance to the Colonial forces. No need to remember that they were treated as animals due to the fact that the Europeans denied they had writing as they did not have an alphabet. Yeah Keggs, nothing to worry about mate. How about those stolen generations??

What’s with the straw man argument? I never said there was nothing to worry about.

Because you need clarification, I’ll oblige. My point is that there is no changing what happened in the past. The best thing to do is to acknowledge what has happened and where we have come from, apologise and learn from our wrong doings, and teach so that it never happens again.

Playing the victim card gets you nowhere.

[Vasco]

I don't believe anyone at the club would release information regarding the meeting yet.
Like most of the stuff printed about LM I take it with a grain of salt.

Exactly.

[Team Evil]

We are young and free, our country came together as a nation in 1901. We are a young country, before that we were a bunch of British colonies and before that we were a bunch of tribes.
Advance Australia fair, what is wrong with that? Are the indigenous people saying that the song is insinuating that we are trying to make Australia white? Its a song about a stupid Fair or is it about being equal, you make your mind up.I tried googling but could not find a definitive answer.
People just love to be offended. I really never liked the song but not because it is insulting to our indigenous people but because I thought it is not really inspiring.
I have no issue if people don't sing the song, lots of people don't sing the song, some people just stand and take in the moment.
It was horrific what happen to Australia's indigenous people, it is horrific what happen to all indigenous people around the world. Horrific stuff has always happen in history. I'm really not sure what this generation has to do with it. We can acknowledge it, and try to move on as a country.
If Australia day and the Anthem are really so insulting then change Australia day to the day of Federation and someone write an inclusive and inspiring song. But I have a feeling that people will always find something to be offended by.
Again just to state, I have no issues with Trell not singing but I think his motives are misguided.

[Paddo Colt 61]

Mmmm....lotta the usual suspects on shaky ground here. Not a few from the Johnny Howard school of Tolerance - he who did everything in his power to scuttle Mabo on behalf of the descendants of the very class that was responsible for the genocide back in the day. Aboriginal society and culture has consistently and steadfastly refused to embrace the dominant culture - they don't go in for the dog eat dog stuff. Theirs is something far more beautiful - they share everything, no one is superior and everyone, no matter how far fallen, is respected and supported come what may. They respect the environment as we should - why do we not reject the powerful and the greedy who despoil for short term gain? If someone likes Trell strikes it rich, everyone in the "family" gets a cut - you won't find him in some McMansion counting his money. They display "mateship" in its purest form, not the bullshit form that the Libs go in for - the one where workers' wages are stolen, the poor among us victimised through the Robodebt rort, where our children won't be able to buy a house and where tax rorts and legislated privilege gives their lot the lion's share of the pie. Nah, some of us are critical of the wrong people.

[bondi.boy]

“They never picked me for origin because of my skin colour” - Mundine, who wasn’t good enough to play origin.

“They booed me because of my skin colour” - Goodes, who was booed because he was an opposition player.

“They dropped me because of my skin colour” - Mitchell, who was dropped for two poor performances.

Goodes got upset because that young girl in the crowd called him an 'ape'? That was the 'last straw' for him?

[zac]

Firstly, the weren’t killed because of their skin colour - what a ridiculous conclusion to draw. They were killed at the time because the settlers saw it as an opportunity to claim land over an inferior group (in terms of weaponry and resources). They could’ve been black, white, yellow, red or bloody purple, they were going to be invaded.

Secondly, for how long are a select few going to continue playing the victim card? Whitlam returned the land to Mabo (I think), Rudd apologised on behalf of the Australian people, and we’ve introduced a “Welcome to Country” speech just to name a few things.

Oh well, so long as they were only killed because they were in the way and because they were inferior. If you put it like that who could complain?

[bondi.boy]

We are young and free, our country came together as a nation in 1901. We are a young country, before that we were a bunch of British colonies and before that we were a bunch of tribes.
Advance Australia fair, what is wrong with that? Are the indigenous people saying that the song is insinuating that we are trying to make Australia white? Its a song about a stupid Fair or is it about being equal, you make your mind up.I tried googling but could not find a definitive answer.
People just love to be offended. I really never liked the song but not because it is insulting to our indigenous people but because I thought it is not really inspiring.
I have no issue if people don't sing the song, lots of people don't sing the song, some people just stand and take in the moment.
It was horrific what happen to Australia's indigenous people, it is horrific what happen to all indigenous people around the world. Horrific stuff has always happen in history. I'm really not sure what this generation has to do with it. We can acknowledge it, and try to move on as a country.
If Australia day and the Anthem are really so insulting then change Australia day to the day of Federation and someone write an inclusive and inspiring song. But I have a feeling that people will always find something to be offended by.
Again just to state, I have no issues with Trell not singing but I think his motives are misguided.

Indigenous protesters say Australia is 40,000 years old, with their people the original inhabitants/ First People...and so object to "young and free".
One rational group said changing "young" to "one" would be the solution..."one and free".

I seem to remember some folk being offended about "Fair" [fair skin, fair hair etc or the like].

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It was 1788. [It'll be 2088 before we know it].
It was a long time ago. [Black people in Africa, sold other Black people in Africa, to slave traders.]
It was 'dog eat dog', make no mistake.

Here, guns beat spears, unfortunately for our Indigenous people.
Had a gun, you took what you wanted, did what you wanted.

1888...not much better.

Fast forward to 1965...
The Freedom Ride...Charles Perkins and White students including girls from Sydney University went on a bus tour of country towns to fight against discrimination of Indigenous People.
Among them Jim Spigelman, who would later become Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of NSW.
The students were verbally abused and physically assaulted.

https://indigenousrights.net.au/civi...dom_ride,_1965

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Then came the 1967 referendum...where people [mostly White people the population then], having been awakened to what was actually going on in country towns, voted 90% to abolish discrimination, etc, of Indigenous people.

Since then many White people/non-Indigenous people have worked very hard to improve the lives of Indigenous people in Australia.
So, our national anthem Advance Australia Fair should be played at the All Stars game.
Ray Hadley on 2GB this morning suggested that as well, the KARI [Indigenous]Youth Choir could/should be asked/allowed to sing Advance Australia Fair in 'language'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9WLVkLed_4
Raise bridge Flags while Kari Choir sing Anthem in Dharawal & English

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Australians ALL!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSP8F_uByBE

[Old Man Rooster]

Bondi Boy nice trolling Johnny. No person with an IQ over 50 would quote farking Ray Hadley.

[ConGa]

After all, L's the best centre in the game and being dropped after one bad performance was controversial (even if Freddy was vindicated by a series win).

it was two actually, they reviewed last yr dead rubber and this yr first game. They've came to conclusion his efforts are not there

[Tedley]

Mmmm....lotta the usual suspects on shaky ground here. Not a few from the Johnny Howard school of Tolerance - he who did everything in his power to scuttle Mabo on behalf of the descendants of the very class that was responsible for the genocide back in the day. Aboriginal society and culture has consistently and steadfastly refused to embrace the dominant culture - they don't go in for the dog eat dog stuff. Theirs is something far more beautiful - they share everything, no one is superior and everyone, no matter how far fallen, is respected and supported come what may. They respect the environment as we should - why do we not reject the powerful and the greedy who despoil for short term gain? If someone likes Trell strikes it rich, everyone in the "family" gets a cut - you won't find him in some McMansion counting his money. They display "mateship" in its purest form, not the bullshit form that the Libs go in for - the one where workers' wages are stolen, the poor among us victimised through the Robodebt rort, where our children won't be able to buy a house and where tax rorts and legislated privilege gives their lot the lion's share of the pie. Nah, some of us are critical of the wrong people.

What is this, a whole bucket of shit from someone with the name Paddo Colts. Why am I not surprised.
Nice of you to take time off killing the Eastern suburbs junior competitions.

[bondi.boy]

What does 'unapproved' mean?
that post of mine is in green...says 'unapproved'.

[IRoosterManI]

when I was 8 years old in the early 90s the school made all us kids sign a “I’m sorry” card they passed around to all the classes and it was sent to the aboriginal communities... not sure why they had us kids say sorry for something we didn’t even know about but the bottom line is that this victim mentality will never end no matter what this country does.. it’s just how it is.. yes they got ****ed but in the thousands of years of history that has been happening.. not just to black people but people from all races ... it’s a sad part of life but it’s not unique to the aboriginals... not sure changing the anthem or flag will do anything to make people feel better... seems like a bandaid solution to me.