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  • Originally posted by Pablo Escobar View Post

    need to make top 4 first.
    As I posted on any post I think Parra/Penrith with easier draws and Storm are top 4 certs leaving 1 spot left - Chooks have one of or the toughest second half of season draws of any of the top 8 chances - injuries are piling up - Crichton tonight adding to the list(MCL)- the Morris Bros didn't look too flash either

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    • Originally posted by Grant Hedger View Post
      Soft under belly exposed. Collins poor hands and statue in defence. Friend and Liu back to old form. Manu’s got to do more. Aubo has to be more than fill in player. We are depending too much on Keary and Teddy to win us games. Next 3 games should be big wins but only if we cut out mistakes. The best we can hope for is 4th, and then play our semi final style football. But even 4th will take a big effort.
      Not sure about big wins Warriors/Titans/Dragons wont be push overs - Chooks were supposed to win big tonight- JWH was playing like a second 5/8 at times - The main thing is and it has been exposed in other games is when teams move the ball from side to side and back through the middle the Chooks defence doesn't adjust and the middle defenders are exposed for their lack of lateral movement and laziness

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      • Originally posted by King Salvo View Post

        As I posted on any post I think Parra/Penrith with easier draws and Storm are top 4 certs leaving 1 spot left - Chooks have one of or the toughest second half of season draws of any of the top 8 chances - injuries are piling up - Crichton tonight adding to the list(MCL)- the Morris Bros didn't look too flash either
        Our draw really isn't that bad. We play Warriors, Titans, Dragons and then Storm at home. That's our banana skin game. If we can win those 4, we then play Tigers and Broncos. That could be potentially 6 in a row leadinmg into Raiders aways, and Knights and Sharks at home.

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        • Originally posted by Pablo Escobar View Post

          need to make top 4 first.
          Even if we finish 5-8, no one would like playing us..
          ..it’ll be interesting to see

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          • Originally posted by The Skeez View Post

            Even if we finish 5-8, no one would like playing us..
            Given the short season I think you can finish top 6 and still win the thing, you just need to get there with the majority of your squad intact. That could be our biggest issue at the moment

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            • In the 2 losses since season restart chooks looked the better team in attack (I know munster was out) problem has been they don't nail the opportunites - dropped balls/forward passes/wrong options etc cruels these and although It puts pressure back on the defence I don't think Robbo will tone down the attack- maybe the players need to be more game aware and not try so hard - take the tackle and go again

              Defence really has to step up as does the coaching staff as they should know what the problems are and they need to fix these pretty quickly. The last 3 games has exposed this- need to work out who will play lock and what players roles are. Way too many tries through the middle- it seems teams have worked out to expose this weakness is to move the ball across the field either side and then come back through the middle - defenders in this area are either not adjusting to the situation or reading the game or are having a rest there as they are certainly not working as a unit- moving the ball across field either side also moves Tedesco around as well.

              JWH at times was playing like a second 5/8 - they seem to be searching for someone to take on Radley's role and are all having a go at it instead of concentrating on what they do best -SST is a prop not a lock as is JWH they have to play as that not another role.

              Crighton will be out for a few games it seems with an MCL and Butcher has rib issues still- Liu has too So Farmer will come back into the team one suggest
              Last edited by King Salvo; 07-17-2020, 01:17 AM.

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              • Originally posted by King Salvo View Post
                In the 2 losses since season restart chooks looked the better team in attack (I know munster was out) problem has been they don't nail the opportunites - dropped balls/forward passes/wrong options etc cruels these and although It puts pressure back on the defence I don't think Robbo will tone down the attack- maybe the players need to be more game aware and not try so hard - take the tackle and go again

                Defence really has to step up as does the coaching staff as they should know what the problems are and they need to fix these pretty quickly. The last 3 games has exposed this- need to work out who will play lock and what players roles are. Way too many tries through the middle- it seems teams have worked out to expose this weakness is to move the ball across the field either side and then come back through the middle - defenders in this area are either not adjusting to the situation or reading the game or are having a rest there as they are certainly not working as a unit- moving the ball across field either side also moves Tedesco around as well.

                JWH at times was playing like a second 5/8 - they seem to be searching for someone to take on Radley's role and are all having a go at it instead of concentrating on what they do best -SST is a prop not a lock as is JWH they have to play as that not another role.

                Crighton will be out for a few games it seems with an MCL and Butcher has rib issues still- Liu has too So Farmer will come back into the team one suggest
                Robbo was highly critical of the defence in the presser. You would imagine that will be the priority over the next month

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                • Originally posted by bondi.boy View Post
                  Raiders were ...too big, too strong, too fast.
                  Maybe we need a bigger, more muscular player than Crichton partnering Cordner.
                  Someone like that English player the Dogs bought.
                  Big is better, our team is too small.
                  good to see a Roosters loss has bought you back to life.

                  FVCK CANCER

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                  • Originally posted by bondi.boy View Post
                    Raiders were ...too big, too strong, too fast.
                    Maybe we need a bigger, more muscular player than Crichton partnering Cordner.
                    Someone like that English player the Dogs bought.
                    Big is better, our team is too small.
                    If anything, our starting pack was too big. JWH, Collins and SST all started. If the game was about hit ups then we win easy.

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                    • Uncharacteristic errors are killing us at the moment. Toops dropped ball vs the Storm and Ikavalu last night dropping it before big Papali scores. Some of them look off the pace or injured. JWH's first two hit ups were as soft as I have s?en from him. Jake with a few errors as well and it sets the tone and it's not like Canberra need a sniff. Still, none of these players owe us anything and if they are buggered / injured, well so be it. Still couldn't write this team off even if we finish between 5-8 if we rediscover our mojo.

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                      • Originally posted by Bahrain Rooster View Post

                        If anything, our starting pack was too big. JWH, Collins and SST all started. If the game was about hit ups then we win easy.
                        Why weren't SST and JWH the starting props?
                        Why wasn't Collins on the bench?
                        Why weren't things like normal?
                        Where was Farmer?

                        Last edited by bondi.boy; 07-17-2020, 07:53 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by chicka View Post
                          Uncharacteristic errors are killing us at the moment. Toops dropped ball vs the Storm and Ikavalu last night dropping it before big Papali scores. Some of them look off the pace or injured. JWH's first two hit ups were as soft as I have s?en from him. Jake with a few errors as well and it sets the tone and it's not like Canberra need a sniff. Still, none of these players owe us anything and if they are buggered / injured, well so be it. Still couldn't write this team off even if we finish between 5-8 if we rediscover our mojo.
                          The errors have been there all season, since game 1 of the old comp.
                          We need to learn how to play a slow game too...and learn to play in the wet.

                          I hate hard hit ups, our players can get injured, and lose the ball.

                          Wighton v Keary. Wighton running at express pace, no way Keary can stop him.
                          We needed to stop Wighton and Papalii, we didn't.

                          Raiders indeed were ...too big, too strong, too rough, too tough, too fast.
                          Until we can be that in games, our future seems not so good.

                          Keary and Flanno we must keep.
                          They cannot be expected to stop big, muscular to the max, forwards running at pace.

                          Big is better...Bozo was a fan.
                          We need to get a big, tallish, muscular-solid, tackling machine from somewhere before the cut-off deadline (or has that passed?).

                          Bigger than Crichton, bigger than Maubs.
                          Last edited by bondi.boy; 07-17-2020, 08:10 AM.

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                          • credit to the raiders. very gutsy win.
                            not panic stations for us but there are things we have to fix.

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                            • Trust in Trent

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                              • Originally posted by mattyh View Post
                                robbo, needs to focus the next few weeks on defence, we were caught short on the edges a few times, but that effort on papalli was unacceptable. we expect more commitment then that. wonder what robbo will say in he's presser ?
                                Edges and middle defence was terrible.

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